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Quote:Hardcore players = Farmers? (No offense to said targetgroup)Originally Posted by RoboTank
I don't think there will be that many "Former EU" players who have lvl50s on US servers that they can use for this. Except perhaps some of the more hardcore players
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Quote:I did, although I can't tell if I may have made a mistake somewhere in the process. Should I maybe try re-installing it?Originally Posted by BeastMan
Did you follow the instructions and create a separate shortcut? When I did that it worked for me, downloaded, installed, updated, and verified.
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Me playing on European servers and all, I'd like to know for how long (hours), you're gonna let us play the trial, as I may have some difficulties in order to be there at CEST 20 o'clock.
EDIT: By the way, have tried to install the Beta Server thingy. When I get the text box: "You can't run this program directly, please run NCsoft Launcher instead" after having chosen the Beta Server in the Launcher and after it has checked for updates, is this what is supposed to happen or have I done something wrong? -
How EPIC, in the word's original meaning!
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First off, sorry for not having replied the last couple of days, I've been somewhat busy.
Generally I'm somewhat disappointed of all the dislikes up there, but guess I had more or less expected it anyway
About the "what happens if you miss"-question, look at it this way. My idea basically is that we are being teleported in front of the targeted enemy. Thus, should you miss, we're simply talking about a teleportation power.
Now, regarding PvP, I'd better be honest and admit that I had totally forgotten about that aspect when I thought of the idea :P Though, I mainly thought of the idea as a PvE addition, used by the stalkers who would have trouble getting a chance to use AS while on teams, where the lead tanker/brute would just storm in and steamroll the very group.
This is basically why I thought of the "snipe" component. When I say "snipe", please have in mind that I'm not talking about a snipe power with AS aspects, I mean a teleporting component for AS with snipe range, where the stalker is being teleported right in front of his AS-prey, with the abovementioned advantage.
This in mind, I have also thought of those sets with range/teleport powers, because, at least as far as I know, a claw stalker on a team does not see his Focus as a ranged AS, but "just" a part of his attack chain that is ranged (or an attack for runners). But yeah, should the power, in spite of what I think, be implemented, it should have something like a minute long, unaffected, recharge time, as it would then fit more or less with the stalker Alpha Strike on a new group.
The reason I thought of this was mainly to give Stalkers a bit more prestige, to make them look more cool and stylish. I didn't think of it as a means to bypass the Hide-effect or the interruptable effect, just a way to make stalkers more attractive to people critical of them. -
Before I tell about my idea, I want to point out that this is only an IDEA. It's not something I think the Stalker lacks or an aspect that's needed to make the AT more interesting, it's just a thought I got that I thought I'd hear other people's thoughts about (the word 'thought' was used a lot there, sorry :P).
Now, onto the idea. Why I got this idea I can't really tell, guess I was just daydreaming :P
The idea is a specific, unique perhaps, mechanic to AS. Imagine for a second: You are activating your AS in front of the desired target, waiting 3 secs to see the effect, depending on set ofc. Though, my thought was that in other media (games, manga, anime's, you name it), the assassin is able to execute his fatal blow from a distance, either by shooting something or by running towards the enemy...
Thought no. 2 -running towards your enemy- is the core of my idea. Though, as all people with even mediocre experience with stalkers know, moving while posing the AS will annull the power. My idea is to let us get teleported to the target while posing the AS (where, ofc, we are not to be interrupted).
This will be done by giving access to the average AS, as well as a "Teleport Melee" AS with quite a big range (thinking of sniping distance, 100 ft-ish) that works by letting the stalker target an enemy, whom they will then get teleported in front of right before executing AS, so that the cast time will work as a way for the stalker to avoid too much disturbance while preparing the AS, which might also make AS more frequently used.
I thought about also letting the attack execute from out of Point of View, but that might be too overpowered, should the concept get considered as actually being let into the game.
So please, tell me your thoughts about the idea. Once again, I don't feel that this should get implemented in game to better Stalkers, I just had a thought I'd like to hear others' thoughts about
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Quote:Regarding the lack of AoE damage, this is also why I decided Leviathan (for Bile Spray). Haven't got it yet, but really look forward to Bile on FS steroidsOriginally Posted by Local_Man
Well, Theme always wins out. But you didn't mention that in this post, so I didn't know it. If the Ice APP would work, that would also give you a Defense-based shield.
One if the weeknesses of Plant Control in general is a lack of strong single-target damage. It is also a bit of a one-trick pony . . . it relies heavily on Seeds+Roots as it main source of AoE control and damage. Anything you can do to add more AoE damage and more single-target damage will help you defeat foes more quickly, especially when you consider the buffs from Kinetics.
I actually have Repel in my build, set up so it is very easy to turn on and off quickly. I know most people hate it, but especially when playing solo, I will sometimes use Repel to protect myself from melee attacks while I wait for my ranged DoT to work. Repel is the only strong defensive power in the Kinetics set. Some people play like a scrapper, running in to keep attacking until everything is dead . . . but I try to be a little bit more strategic. Throw Seeds+Roots on a group, and the bosses will not be held. Sometimes pulling foes around a corner, using Repel to knock down, then being able to assert control. It may not kill the fastest, but it is a little bit safer.
You were kind of vague, indicating that you would use them "if need be." My suggestion was that you plan to use then, whether or not you actually need them, to top off your health on a regular basis. Get in the habit of Seeds+Fulcrum Shift+Roots+Transference. Then use your Siphon buff/debuffs, then Roots+Transference. With the casting time of Transference, you may be able to have the heal cued up just as you are taking the damage that had been causing you to faceplant.
You had Super Speed + Stealth IO in your build . . . silly me, I thought you could use them. So maybe you should switch to taking Stealth (from the Stealth pool) instead if Super Speed is such a problem.
When dealing solo with problem foes, I try to take a little more time, and I'm not afraid to run away when things look like they are getting to be a little more than I can handle.
Oh, and about Ice, nah, the theme (simplified ofc) needs the toon to have the power of the leviathan before going incarnate. There, I don't feel Ice fit...
Regarding repel, smart use of it, Imma say :P Transfusion/Transference: I do in fact use them quite a lot more than what might have been understood in the description, as I am VERY paranoid of getting hurt without any sort of direct defensive abilities (Resistance, defense, regen).
About SS: Yeah, I understand your situation :P Though, the reason I added SS in the first place was also opinions from in here. To be precise, a poster had the experience that without that travel power, he felt gimped in a way. That said, I mainly use IR as travel pow, SS simply supplies, and to that, I have many a time realised that Siph Speed would be able to do just as well. So I am very willing to add Stealth in the build
About Stealth though. My main Incarnate is a DM/Regen stalker. Compared to the stealth I experience there, how does the regular Stealth power help with my mitigation?
Again, thank you for your time and dedication to helping me
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Quote:Ever since I even showed the build on the forums in the first place, people have continuously questioned why I chose Leviathan Mastery over the more traditional Earth Mastery. THEME has constantly been my answer, so that is totally out of question.Originally Posted by Local_Man
Since you don't have a Defense-based shield, Maneuvers isn't doing much for you. You might want to consider changing to the Earth APP with its Defense-based shield, fast-recharging AoE and single target heavy-hitter (seismic smash). You don't HAVE to softcap to S/L defense, but getting a decent amount of S/L defense allows the foes to miss you more often, so that your healing should be enough to handle the damage you take.
If I remember currectly, I did mention the use of Transfusion (as well as Transference) to add up where needed be.Quote:Originally Posted by Local_Man
If you know you are dealing with a group that tends to put a lot of damage on you, you may want to include Transfusion into your "attack chain" so that you are healing yourself up before they can do all that much damage on you.
Here, my problem is totally technical (Don't know if that's called AI, WAI or whatever, haven't ever understood those phrases). I am not able to run SS as much as other players, either because of connection or graphic card, so if I was to use SS, I could risk a small second of lag, and on x4, that 1 second as a controller is THE 1 second, as I'm perfectly sure you're aware of.Quote:Originally Posted by Local_Man
Another trick is to use Twoey as a aggro-magnet . . . turn on your invis (SS+stealth proc) and lead Twoey into the group. As they turn to focus on him, you can get in the ideal position to fire off Seeds+Roots. You can try to heal him up, but he probably won't last long. Still, it gives you a few seconds to get out your controls and may even help gather the foes into a tighter group as they gather around him. (I call him Twoey after the plant in "Little Shop of Horrors." Seymore called him "Twoey" because his name was the "Audrey II.")
All in all, thank you for your critique, though
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Quote:Just to make sure I understand:Originally Posted by Lady Arete
Did not think that would happen, but according from what we know the channel met its cap with the new influx of players
and
not done a purge of names since ... apperantly ever.
So to spread the word. If you use Sals badgehunters and know people who do, make certain you are logged in during the next 14 days.
Every player that is not logged in will be purged from the list and will have to manually /chan_join
the channel again.
Now for those without access to Sals, stay in there people just for 14 days. We will try to be more active as well on Union Taskforce so you should hopefully not be missing out on stuff.
Then when 14 days are up rejoin our channel
Wishing you all fun.
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Chan_tim...ash_Command%29
was the command used.
Do I have to log into the game and actively write on sals EVERY DAY for the next 14 days (or how long we got left, whatever), or do I have to have just been logged in (and written on sals) ONCE the next x days? -
Added in my build in my OP.
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Hello,
Having made a plant/kin troller a couple months ago, I have gotten a problem with my playstyle with the combo and do seriously need help!
My toon is currently lvl 40 (Rogue) and have just started Capt. Mako's patron arc (planning on getting some of the powers in the set). Ever since lvl 26 or 32 (don't really remember when I started with it) I have played with my reputation on +0 /x4 and have more or less gotten along well with it. Now, on Mako's 2 first mishes, a Longbow mish on an Arachnos map and a Longbow mish on a Longbow map, I have been used as Mutant detergent, in the way that I have been faceplanting about 10 times, altogether, luckily. My question here of course is, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!?
Now, my typical strategy for fighting mobs:
0) Activate Tactics, summon Giant Fly Trap (Hasten on auto), activate Secondary Mutation
1a) Apply Seeds of Confusion on a centered enemy, based on visual decisions.
1b) Apply Carrion Creepers continued by Seeds of Confusion to hinder further damage income.
2a) (Post-Fulcrum Shift, if recharged) After moving into melee range, apply Fulcrum Shift on centered enemy, then use Roots on same enemy.
2b) (Post-Fulcrum Shift, not recharged) Apply Seeds of Confusion (if recharged), then use Roots on semi-centered enemy.
3+) Add up buffs/heals if need be and continue throwing Roots.
My build:
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,94
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Unexpected Cure: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(13), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25), HO:Nucle(29)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal(43), Acc-I(43)
Level 2: Roots -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(15), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(34), GravAnch-Hold%(39)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(5)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(9), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(9), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(17), CoPers-Conf%(17)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(11), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 12: Entangle -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Decim-Build%(46)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Increase Density -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 18: Vines -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39), EoCur-Acc/Hold/Rchg(40)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 22: Spore Burst -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(23), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(37), FtnHyp-Plct%(43), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(27), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Posi-Dam%(34)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 30: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(40)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(A), C'Arms-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), Achilles-ResDeb%(40)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Bile Spray -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Shark Skin -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-Status(46)
Level 47: Summon Coralax -- LdyGrey-DefDeb(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(48), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(48), LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(48), Achilles-ResDeb%(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A)
Level 50: Nerve Radial Paragon
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 50: Paralytic Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Clockwork Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(21)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Quote:Welcome? Lemme remind you that you're also invited to the European Servers, so we should think about welcoming you as wellOriginally Posted by GreenFIame
I want to say to the Players we going be playing with now, welcome everyone and hope I see you all in-game soon.
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I also like all the suggested Judgement tricks!
Am definently looking forward to see which Judgement powers the devs' will make next time! -
Thanks for the link ^^
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Any builds???
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Right, so, with the newly arrived Mids' version, I wanted to prepare some builds for new Incarnate abilities and got to look at the Lore slots. Here, I got disappointed to see that there were no information about the supportive values in the slot.
Could someone please link the thread made by Dispari, if it still exsists, or else inform me of the different supportive effects and values of the slots? -
Quote:I am VERY glad to hear that! I have a thought of a Mind/Thorn dom myself and looking very much forward to making him; my prob is tho that I am uncertain of the build I've made, as I don't have much experience in Dom builds. Do you have one we can see??Originally Posted by Hy-Beams
Wanted a new Mind Dom and because I don't repeat sets, I had a choice between Thorn and Ice. Thorn fit the concept better so I went with that and I have to admit I was shocked by how much fun it is to play so far.
I am not even at level 10 yet and I was amazed by how much damage she can do. Locking guys down and then impaling them is awesome!
I know the combo is a little offbeat but if you are looking for a new Dom to play, I would recommend it. -
Carrion Creepers. Every time I summon that patch of planty death, I find myself (and the rest of the team) smile and giggle a little while the enemies are... killed to death?
Edit: Oh, and on that note, the Creepers' happy companion, Seeds of Confusion
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Quote:I have wondered where the speculation for this topic was! Seems I found itOriginally Posted by Psychic_Warlock
So, just for fun, what do you think the next incarnate slots will bring to the table? If I recall correctly, I think they were suppose to touch the various archetypes in the game. If that is correct, it means Matermind is out (Lore), as well as Corrupter/Defender (Destiny), and Blaster (Judgement). What are your thoughts? Here is mine:
Hybrid: A self boost, invulnerability+fortitute type power.
Genesis: A powerful single target attack (melee?)
Mind: A strong AoE hold.
Vitae: An increase in health/endurance.
Omega: Able to equip any power from the first 9 slots.
Now, my imagination is a bit altered from your:
Hybrid: A toggle power, being able to mix different sorts of mitigation, i.e. Res(all)+to-hit/acc, def(positional/type(all in the chosen category)+Dmg(all), Regen+(Insert stuff here, for example mez),Rec+rech... Furthermore I kinda hope it's some kind of customizable transformation power (like kheld forms, just... customizable)
Genesis: A click power or toggle power, giving us a travel power, maybe even a new kind of power, or else a new visual to match the general travel powers. I'm thinking of this as movement is also part of the game, and a very important part of the customization game even.
Mind: A mez power of sorts
Vitae:... Blanc xD
Omega: This one is difficult, as it is to the last step in our evolution to become beings to challenge the power of Gods (Yes, I think highly of my incarnated characters xD) -
Quote:Oh yeah, and about that. As I understood it at the Sneak Peak, you can buy the VR incarnate powers for 1 bill inf each, but don't hang me up on that.Originally Posted by ShadowsBetween
And yes, I'm aware that "you can craft threads and notices with shards." But it already takes hundreds of shards to complete the Alpha. If that conversion rate is right for threads, it will take thousands of them to complete enough thread based components to get to the very rare in trees that use them. So yes, it's technically possible to solo it. It's also technically possible to get from Florida to Hong Kong without using motorized transportation. Realistically, most people aren't going to do it. They'll use the faster option, or they won't try it at all.
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Quote:NO FAIR!!Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
From our friendly EU players: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...99&postcount=2
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Originally Posted by Master Zaprobo
Quick Notes...
Devs are here playing along side us (and giving out codes)
The Lambda Trial looks great - and rewards are turned on
Incarnate Shards are not used for the Judgement Slot - Incarnate Threads are
Incarnate Slots are opened by being in the Trial and earning "Incarnate XP" - the Judgement slot has it's own little XP bar
Alpha, Judgement, Lore, Destiny and Interface are all visible on this build
Conversion from Shards to Threads is available, but the rates are awful (I was able to convert 100 shards to get 20 or 30 (I forget right now) Threads - enough for one component)
I have screenies, but more once I finish testing (just had a CTD hence this quick post)
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...31#post3512431
I wanted to act arrogant towards you NA folks as I, for once, would know more about the future of the game than you, no fair!! :'(
That said, you haven't seen the individual Slots' actual powers and values yet (at least not unless I skipped more than I fear) >
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It's working!! Bless you Avatea and co.!
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Quote:Unless we're not talking about this URL: https://secure.cityofheroes.com/cgi-...transfer_eu.pl , then I definently wouldn't say that it's up, as I can't even enter the page. And really, I need to be able to access the Character Copy Tool, as I have no Incarnates (or even proper lvl 50's) for tomorrow's Sneak Peak trial! :'(Originally Posted by Avatea
It should be back up and running. Let us know if this were not the case!
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My thoughts of this:
1st of all: YAY! I can get to try these new, well-spoken-of Incarnate Trials, gonna be awesome
2nd of all (which is really in continuation to 1st point): I'm from Europe. can I PLEASE get access to the Character Copy Tool, PLEASE?? I don't have any Incarnates on my test server; heck, the only lvl 50 I have there isn't even slotted out, so he won't be of much help against lvl 54, Incarnate-only super groups.
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Quote:Indeed, the troller (elec/kin all the more) certainly did have his role in helping the team do the TF more awesomely, probs to him too. And about the Dark Tanker, the only time he actually got his health bar to red was at the start of the LR battle, it only happened then and it got fixed quite fast.Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack
Now, I wouldn't go ignoring that */kin Controller for two important reasons. One is that Kinetics has Speed Boost and Transfusion, so your Dark tank could be a little trigger-happy with Dark Regeneration and still have the endurance to cover it. The other is that on non-archvillain encounters, the troller is breaking up a lot of the alpha strike, which means health bars are going to move a lot less than if the tank had to take the entire alpha. Still impressive that he can tank Recluse without his health budging or his end crashing - my fire tank has a bit of a problem with the -End/-recovery in LR's ranged attack.
All the same, DA is crazy awesome, and I'm glad you've come to realise this.