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Quote:The movie does a really good job of hitting the high points of the story while preserving as many of the relevant details as possible. Making all the apes speak English was silly, but necessary I suppose.Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
When I checked out the Pierre Boulle novel from the local library as a pre-teen, it became my first introduction to how novels and movies can end up being entirely different from each other. heh.
I recommend the novel, BTW. The final lines are nicely ironic and the novel itself is as much social satire as it is adventure. Just don't expect it to be a novelization of the screenplay. ;-)
When Atlantis came back down, the internet meme that went around was, "When the shuttle lands, everyone wear ape suits. Pass it on." Oh how I laughed. -
Quote:Boulle almost certainly did that as an allegory. People argue back and forth if the point he was making was whether the bourgeoisie was taking over or we were mistreating the planet and it would bite us on the *** one day. Among other things. After his experiences in WW2 and the whole River Kwai thing, I find it hard to credit the first one. Perhaps he wrote it as a cautionary tale about brutes taking over, as he witnessed with Nazis and Vichy French.Originally Posted by mousedroid
Don't know if you're (general you, not specific) aware of this or not, but the ending of the 2001 remake was a nod to the ending of the Pierre Boulle novel that the whole franchise was based on. In the book
A) the planet of the apes (Soror) was a different world, but one that paralleled Earth's development, and
B) the "Taylor" character in the book returned to Earth to find that 700 years had passed and the humans on Earth had made the same mistakes as the humans on Soror, and apes had become the dominate species on Earth too.
Granted, the idea of two planets hundreds of light years apart developing identical intelligent lifeforms and experiencing similar historical events is pretty goofy these days, but in the context of the book it at least made more sense. The movie made it seem like some one had travelled to Earth's distant past and replaced humans with apes and it was more confusing than anything else.
It's been so long since I read Monkey Planet that I don't recall if he mentioned anything in the book itself on that front, but he was definitely tweaking anti-science religious believers who refuse to allow an opposing idea into their narrow worldview. That aspect actually made it into the movie. The harder sciences of time dilation and linguistics was forfeited for a more typical Twilight Zone-style twist. (Since Rod Serling had a hand in the screenplay, that's not surprising.) I don't know if Boulle was ignorant of the impossibility of parallel evolution or if he did that on purpose.
Burton, who seems completely scientifically illiterate, was just lifting things he thought were cool. -
Quote:According to IMDB's Avengers entry, she is.Originally Posted by Nericus
Hm I think I remember her being listed as a sister back in the beginning, but was retconned.....ah it looks like nowadays she's referred to as being Peggy's niece.
Amanda Righetti played the unnamed SHIELD agent at the end of First Avenger that greeted Steve after he awoke from his deep freeze. No confirmation if she was Sharon Carter, yet.
I know I'm the only one geeking so hard about this aspect of it, but I absolutely love how they are intertwining all the movies together. To my knowledge, that's never been done before. It's something I always wanted to do ever since 8th grade when I read S.E. Hinton's novels The Outsiders and That Was Then, This Is Now where minor characters in one book are major players in the other.
I know some of the filmmakers like Favreau are chafing under the challenge and some viewers are starting to get annoyed at references to the other movies, but I'd love to be faced with the challenge of taking elements that are given to you and make them work within the constraints of a new story. When all is said and done, this will be one of the coolest series of movies ever made. -
Steamy.
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Quote:Just file the idea away and use it at a later date.Originally Posted by Torroes_Prime
As impressive as that would be, Only like 2 frames of the entire comic are going to be from inside the Crab Spiders helmet, and one of those will be jacked up from damage before the helmet is taken off and discarded.
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Ah, that's more like it. You can see instantly what's going on. Really nice.
As for the comm channel, the icon representing someone is a good idea. Whenever someone speaks, their avatar pops up.
Oh, I just had a thought.... You know what would be a cool moment in the story is if a battle gets out of hand and devolves into a crazy firefight where everyone is screaming at once... and each time someone says something their icon pops on, but in their panic everyone is screaming at once and multiple icons are popping up, much like a runaway pop-up ad online. Throw in a bunch of word balloons with fragments of speech and you'd have a nice visual representation of the chaos of battle.
Like that scene from Aliens when the aliens attack the marines and everyone is shouting at once. Doing that in a comic would be cool. -
I really don't think it was as nefarious and calculated as all that. I mean, this isn't the abomination of One More Day.
The Ultimate universe is really starting to get hardcore about the superhero business. Originally it was just a simple reboot of Spider-man, which I thought was, well, amazing. Ultimate Fantastic Four started off great, too. But once they let people like Millar and Card into the sandbox and didn't exercise firm editorial control over them, things went awry and it got out of hand. (Card's Ultimate Iron Man has already been retconned within the Ultimate universe itself as having just been the Iron Man movie of that world, not a sign of support.) Ultimatum, with its world-killing tsunami that wiped out tons of characters, was really out there in terms of a game-changer. I mean, they killed off Wolverine. That's huge for Marvel.
I think Bendis is telling the truth when he says that he was persuaded by the whole internet thing promoting Donald Glover as the next Spider-man and that a black friend of his told him the only hero his friends would let him play was Spider-man because no one could see his skin color. To me, "white" isn't an absolute criterion for being Spider-man. The most important traits of the character have nothing to do with his ethnicity.
And again, Ultimate is an alternate universe. Regular Spidey is still fine. I think they should take such chances, because that's what an alternate universe is for. -
Quote:Interesting. I wonder why she has the same last name?Originally Posted by Nericus
Sharon is supposed to be Peggy's grand daughter per the comics, so I suspect they would maintain that for the movie
He could have, but it's pretty strongly implied that didn't happen. Either way, it's still a bummer.Quote:Originally Posted by BrandX
But he could of gotten it on with the girl with the metal gear and the nervous tick who was really nice to him and liked him lots for his personality. -
Quote:That sounds pretty cool. I'd play that game!Originally Posted by Calash
I am trying to dig up the material from a while back so forgive the lack of evidence at this point.
It was always my impression that the Midnight Squad, when they learned of Rularuus approach (Thanks to the Dream Doctor), created a pocket dimension as an exact replica of Paragon City and the surrounding area. They then populated this dimension with people from our world (or possible reflections of the people, it was never actually stated however the older people in the shard can remember the original Paragon City) and tricked Rularuu into devouring this dimension and becoming trapped.
Trapped in this prison Rularuu went mad. The Shadow Shard we see now is a mix of that dimension and the mad mind of Rularuu that had been shattered by the various aspects of him. -
Quote:Any amount of money? I thought there was higher limit than $10.Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Except as soon as they spend those 10 bucks they are no longer free players but are instead premium players. Remember premium players = players who have spent money.
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Quote:Or alternate them, if it isn't too hard.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I've advocated to the Devs before to use Imperial City skies on the redside since it has a nice mixture of sun and overcast.
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Also a little sun would be nice.
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Seems to me some of the specific islands should look like Jamaica: you have the nice, shiny touristy part, and then you have the slums where a lot of the people live coupled with a ridiculous murder rate. Even pretty places like St. Thomas have some of the highest crime rates around because the wealth is spread so unevenly.
That should be the model for the Rogue Isles which cater to foreigners: looks nice around the casino, but stray from there and you can get murdered right in your face. -
Signature characters
Great designs:
Black Scorpion -- distilled armored evil, extremely iconic
Captain Mako -- this is crazy sweet with a hint of lemon and tartar sauce; love it
Citadel -- iconic and cohesive modern look
Coyote -- I know this was a player design (R.I.P.) but it's absolutely brilliant; it manages to combine both spandex and Native American better than any comic book character. You guys really need to find a place for Coyote in the revamp.
Foreshadow -- this is just total modern cool
Ghost Widow -- one of THE great character designs in any game or comic; whoever came up with it was hitting on all cylinders that day
Lord Recluse -- really looks like he could kill you and the modified samurai-type look works great
Ms. Liberty -- she looks like her name; can't ask for more than that
Scirocco -- like Ms. Liberty, the look evokes his essence
Synapse -- without knowing anything about him, at first glance I knew he was a speedster; that's good design
Good designs:
Manticore -- mostly it's the head gear that elevates him above just okay; could use a spruce
Mirror Spirit -- I like it, but it doesn't say iconic or superhero to me; that said, I wouldn't change it
Mynx -- I'm of two minds on this one, but the Tigra + Josie and the Pussycats look mostly works
Numina -- it doesn't wow me, but I like it
Swan -- I think her outfit needs to be brightened, but otherwise it's fine
Okay designs:
Aurora Borealis -- the "fresh out of ideas" look
Back Alley Brawler -- like the character, not crazy about the lazy look
Infernal -- my life on the D list
Luminary -- evoking Sorayama is fine, but it's rather dull
Statesman -- it's the cape and goofy faceplate that drop it from "great" to "meh"
Terrible designs:
Positron -- easily the worst offender to my eyes, just a really bad look all the way around
Sister Psyche -- just blah and boring
Valkyrie -- apparently taking too many cues from Positron; needs to be awesomized stat -
Quote:My mileage varied a lot. Just say no to neon.Originally Posted by OminousVoice
I'm liking the direction you're going here. It adds to the theme without being too OTT.
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Regarding dear Valkyrie, I've been tinkering with photoshop and came up with a couple of concepts attempting to nail the myth-tech look. The first one is one of my old designs with added glow patterns. The second is a combination of the Metallic underlay with the Valkyrie motif, with added glow lines. YMMV with the glow designs, but these are just ideas.
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Quote:I doubt it. My dad doesn't even know who Mr. Spock is.Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Considering the popularity of the Spiderman movies, I'm sure Lou knew who Peter Parker was.
Actual conversation from last year:
Me: "Like Han Solo said, ancient weapons are no substitute for a good blaster at your side."
My dad: "I loved Man from U.N.C.L.E."
Me: "What?"
My dad: "Great show."
Me: "What are you talking about, Capt. Non Sequitur?"
My dad: "Han Solo, the guy from U.N.C.L.E. Or was it Mission: Impossible?"
Me: "That was someone else. I was quoting Star Wars."
My dad: "Napoleon Solo. Was Han related to him?"
Me: "No, totally different guy. Harrison Ford, you know?"
My dad: "Right. Who was the alien guy you used to watch in Mission: Impossible?"
Me: "Mr. Spock?"
My dad: "The baby doctor?"
Me: "No Leonard Nimoy. Star Trek."
My dad: "Not him."
Me: "Commander Koenig from Space: 1999?"
My dad: "That's the guy! Which one was Spock?"
I'll bet you dollars to donuts Lou Dobbs has that exact same kind of conversation. -
Quote:You should go see it. It's a lot better than you're imagining.Originally Posted by Mandu
Ok, I misspoke. I should have said great apes as in the larger ones like Gorillas. At any rate if it's more of a jail break sort of thing that makes it more plausible. But all the trailers make it look like an army of apes going up against an army of people. Imagine that, trailers being misleading. I'm shocked.
I could easily accept a James Bond or even A-Team of apes breaking out of a city. Just not an army. But those apes are going to have to do one heck of a lot of breeding to create a force large enough to take over the country. Currently the odds are only about 100,000 to 1. Maybe only 50000 to 1 if you count spider monkeys and reality show contestants.
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Quote:Every single physicist who has ever commented on the multiple universes theory disagrees with you. Just sayin'.Originally Posted by Durakken
The correct word is dimension or timeline. Universe is a bad word to use because it has too many similar meanings that conflict with it's proper meaning.
here can't be an our universe and their universe and everything be in "the" universe v.v -
I brand these "Foodles" and approve of them.
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Quote:My brother once did a math equation for three days so I could have one line of dialogue in a script. Which was later cut.Originally Posted by Torroes_Prime
Well the sick part is that, at least for the issue I'm currently working on, I only need the HUD display for 2 maybe 3 frames and even then I won't need the full panoramic view in any of those frames. Still, I've found it useful to under how something works in this sort of project.
I really like the overall concept, but my issue would be "useful information." Numbers on a screen don't do anything for you in the heat of the moment: you need to be able to tell at a glance the status of your systems. This is why cars have speedometers and other things that are primarily dials rather than numerical readouts. Most dashboard dials have red-for-danger zones so you can see immediately if there's trouble. Good dial design (yes, like that found in Fords) typically have it so that when everything is copacetic, all the needles are pointing the same way. At the very least, they have a common base or "zero" resting spot.
All to say I'd replace the numbers on the lower left with bar graphs or something. It doesn't matter if full is good or empty is good, just as long as it's consistent across the board. I agree with Canine in that I don't think 360 is necessary. -
Quote:The "well duh" part is EXACTLY the point. As Stewart was pointing out, this isn't something to get one's panties in a bunch over. Dobbs and a lot of other people are using it as a jumping-off point to rail against diversity.Originally Posted by BrandX
While I'm sure Lou Dobbs' probably had an overreacting rant, I find Jon Stewarts statement to be pretty stupid as well.
"And still fictional"
Well duh.
People who are against this are being ridiculous. One person even went so far as to complain, "Why can't there be heroes for white kids to look up to?" Uh, maybe because 95% of superheroes are already white? Including Spider-man *still*. The funniest comment I've seen so far is on the NPR site where someone remarked, "Seems like the only superhero these people want is The Grand Wizard." (If you don't get that joke, type "Grand Wizard" into Wikipedia. Second entry.)
Do you really think Dobbs reads comic books? Do you suppose he even knew Peter Parker's name before the announcement? Do you think he cared one little bit about this before someone said that this is yet another example of how those mud races are taking over this great nation?Quote:So obviously because it's fiction people should be okay with every and all changes made to the fictional media they care to partake in.
*I* read comic books. USM is actually one of the few that I buy. So I get more of a say in it than Dobbs does. And I'm fine with it. -
Quote:Did you just call Led Zeppelin "good"? I suppose if you like stuff that's been stolen and given heavy guitar overlays, sure. At least Yngwie Malmsteen is honest about it.Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Ha, that reminds me of a guy in my BF1942 clan that was in high school and thought Modest Mouse was the best band ever. We introduced him to Led Zeppelin and he got all excited, wondering if there was more out there as good as that. As another clanmate older than me said, "we have much to teach you, my son."
Although I will give Zeppelin credit: they've never sued anyone for using their soundbites the way The Rolling Stones have. Keith Richards is particularly litigious when it comes to sampling of his work. In one instance that wasn't even a legitimate gripe, The Verve used the same gospel song as the basis for one of their songs that the Stones used and the Stones successfully sued them for infringement, getting 100% of the royalties as well as writing credit (!!!) for Mick and Keith. For a song Richards and Jagger *stole* from someone else.
I think the only band from that era that swiped more stuff from original artists and passed it off as their own was Deep Purple. -
Quote:I have faith Whedon will do right by him. I wonder if the Sharon Carter character in The Avengers will be related to Peggy?Originally Posted by Nericus
I'm curious is to how they will handle Cap's angst at being 70 years out of time in the Avengers. I truly hope they don't gloss it over, but let's not take up the majority of the film with it either.
I hope he gets to read up on history about D-day and how the Allies won, and just what legacy he created as Captain America and that his defeat of Hydra and the Skull are not forgotten. Also I would think he would have received a posthumous Medal of Honor for stopping the Skull and saving New York and the entire eastern seaboard. Also that he gets to look up Peggy Carter and either see her or read up on how her life was.
His story is kind of sad, though. This poster says it all:
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Quote:Even worse: possible Howard the Duck.Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Rocket Raccoon as an animated figure or drawn in a comic... ok.
As a live action CG character? Possible Jar-Jar.
I'm guessing Rocket won't make the cut. That would be too bad, since I liked him as a kid. Enough so to make an homage character here in CoH, a Claws Scrapper named Razor Raccoon. -
Quote:Let me be clear: THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS.Originally Posted by BrandX
I agree. I just don't see how 200 apes can start a revolt against a population in the billions, when it starts in a country where we have tanks (those Apes arent going to tear through a tank) big guns, and the government would sooner fire bomb the city than let it happen.
Really, take my word on this, the movie is way better than you think it is, and far superior to the trailers. That's why so many critics are responding positively and so many viewers are talking it up. Me and Cap'n Foamy are in agreement on this, doesn't that tell you something?