Irish Fury

Originally Posted by MrLiberty

For Zones going something like 2 therm corrs or a Therm+Pain would probably pretty solid. Rad is nice because it has cheaper dmg procs you can slot in it, plus N Bolt + TS is stupid.

Here would be a pretty cheap (3 - 4 Billion) Build I'd think for a Rad/Therm.

Originally Posted by TehFiri

Generally speaking most nice builds, unless they are straight damage (read: psi/em) wont have/need a boat load (and maybe none at all) of PvP IOs in them. Even then ppl usually only put them in for HP buffs because they are so pricey and stick with that.

So going off your list here are a few suggestions you could consider making:

Son/Therm Corr - Has some good buffs and an ok team mate heal as well as an aoe self heal. It also has Heat Exhaust which is a great debuff as well as melt armor (-res debuff). Sonic is a great synergy with this since its 2 t1/2 attacks are some decent damage as well as added -res. Shout is a great heavy hitter finisher (very nice with scourge kicking in). Also has a nice little stun. Alternativly you could do a rad/ instead and it would play very similar, just -def instead.

Mind/Therm Troller - Same idea as above for therm stuff. Mind is a great troller primary. It has psi damage as well. Psi damage is still a very good choice of damage type to have. It also has a great hold and knockup power (slotted correctly can do a mag 41 knock before DR - ends up being able to knock ppl with less then 30ish KB protection if I remember right). This also has a non-repeling TK (telekinesis), unlike the defender version which repels.

Son/Cold Corr (Cold/Son Def) - There are some great -recharge powers in cold as well as -def/-dam and a monster debuff that does -regen/-end/-dam/-special. The special debuffs your status protection/resist by a lot. Also has a +recovery power which is always nice to have. There are some buffs as well, but sadly not many ppl spec it for team buffing (in all reality not many ppl plan for playing it with a team). Has 2 +def buffs (S/L/melee and range/aoe/NE/E) that also give a small res to c/f. There is also a +HP teammate buff (If i remember right the only one in the game) that can easily HP cap your teammates. Pair this with a son for the added -res and its a done deal. At this point I would say it would be better to do a corr rather then a def just because corrs get slightly better damage and scourge.

Psi/Em Blaster - Bread and butter damage here. This will be FoTM for a while until damage gets changed just for the simple fact that 1 psi blaster can setup a mini spike by themselves because of how the delayed damage shows up when you attack. As a blaster you can spend anywhere from 1 to prolly 20 bill. I think I have that cheap build (might have to dig to page 2 or 3) that rikti asked for that psyrene posted up. I think it only cost about 1.5 bill at the buyitnoa price even. Its a solid build for what you pay for and unless I start playing mine a lot more I highly doubt I will upgrade to more expensive one. Really the only thing you get is a little more damage cause of procs, better end recov, and recharge. Don't get me wrong, it does make a difference, but for your avg joe it won't matter to much. Played well on a team, 2 of these, or even 1 and some support/added damage, are pretty lethal

Mind,Earth,Grav/Fire Dom - Pick your primary. Whatever floats your boat. They all play slightly different but in the end is just how fast you can spam flares/blaze/flares/fire blast. Great damage output if left unchecked. This would by far be the most expensive toon to even play at a manageable level (for a build worth your time playing easily over 4 bill). A lot of what the blaster has going for it, so does this. Biggest difference is that a dom can somewhat disrupt and control the pace of a fight with its mez's. Refer to Mind/ portion of the Mind/Therm Troller.

SS/Invuln Brute - Classic taunt bot that can smack someone upside the head pretty nasty in pinch. Remember kids, Taunt is your friend. Overall its still kinda a 1 hit wonder with KO Blow, but the stacked rage, rock throwing, and the fairly recent option of tanker epics you can still spit out some decent range damage if your built for it. This plays great in teams if you use all your tools (taunt more pls), though solo its not so mean but still a bit of a pain.

KM/Regen Scrapper - Currently the damage is broken on KM for scrappers so they can hit someone and take 700 HP. If you like FoTMs, roll em while its hot and run around and try to 3 shot ppl. Expect to see a fix for this in i35. Overall Regen or SR is your pretty standard FiteKlub toon. I highly suggest NOT ever rolling one of these. It ends up making ppl so closed minded about PvP in general and I dont want you to join the rest of the noob scrapper fite klubbing mass(s) (Im not really sure how many are left of these but it cant be the majority of PvPers that are left just yet...)

Sharks/Sharks Stalker - As much as noob stalkers are hated for spamming sharks and that is all, there is no denying the fact that a smart player on a stalker that can pull off an AS can be a very real threat. If they can actually function in a team, thats like 100x better then the average stalker youll find in RV at any given time. Oh did and there is sharks.


Overall thats kinda the basics as far as toons go. I didnt cover healing much (emps/pains), though they re very viable with a team. They wont spit out much damage (unless you spec them for damage but if you do you would be greatly hurting their healing/buffing ability so you might as well just roll a therm or rad). I didnt cover some of the less played combos, but it doesnt make them any less viable (Im talking about different sorts of disruption and debuffs, not whether or not your energy blaster will be better then a psi blaster. It wont, get over it). Some ppl like to play disruption and that is all they have fun on. It is a totally separate play stlye. Anyway I think this book is done. Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Originally Posted by Fulmens

Lot of possible next steps.

It seems illogical to me that people would buy a crafted IO for 12 or 15 or 20 million inf when I pick up the recipe for 500K and the salvage for 3.5 million. But they do it. All the time. (level 50, positron's blast and performance shifter, to mention two where I've made some money.) If you look at the top level of any melee, ranged, AOE, defense, or resistance set you'll probably find at least one of those six IO's where there's a good, profitable spread between recipe + salvage + crafting cost, and cost of crafted IO -10%. "Buy for five million, sell for ten to twenty" is good for learning, because if you get bit on your second time through the system and lose your inf you are still ahead of the game; it's also good for the long term, because you can make a few billion that way.

Four quick notes:
1) List well under the "last 5"- I have listed a lot of things for 12 million that sold for 20. Sometimes the "last 5" on those was 15 million.
2) Until you get comfortable, work in small batches. This depends on how much attention you pay, vs. how much risk you mind.
3) Niches collapse, it's the nature of the beast. Sometimes they come back quickly, sometimes they don't come back at all. If you have something that's, like, "Buy at 1 million, add 3.5 million inf of salvage, sell at 40 million" do not be surprised if one day it starts selling for 6 or 8 million. (I think that happened to Impervious Skin Res/Rech.)
4) You can move into more expensive stuff, buy for 20 + salvage + crafting, sell for 40. Buy for 300+salvage+crafting, sell for 400. It's riskier. Some people pay more attention when they're spending half a billion inf. Fortunately, some people don't.