Ignitros

Why did the devs choose to remove the costume parts with these names and such? Not that it matters as I don't have any on my characters but I'm just curious as to why.

Well... Just to make it easy for everyone to see what I'm planning this is the build I'm thinking about using. I have everything on here now except of course combat jumping in place of maneuvers and oppressive gloom in place of assault. Slotting of the powers is a lil different from what I'm running now but very close.


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What do you think about swapping combat jumping and oppressive gloom for maneuvers and assault?

I'll take a look at that. Thanks for the input.

I finally finished getting my spines/dark scrapper to level 50 and used a respec to make sure he was slotted to farm.

Got all my enhancements slotted in for all the good IO set bonuses.

Set up my farm mission and go in... jump into the first mob, get their attention then run for the next. I get all the vills in melee range then my health bar goes down to nothin! I think... "that's wierd" let's try that again.

Repeat above another 3 times! lol

I couldn't figure it out then I thought about the health drain from oppressive gloom. Turned it off and sure enough.... I made it through every mob double stacked with NO deaths.

That power is dangerous when farming! lol

I understand what you're talking about now. All things being said... How would you slot Death Shroud and Quills?

I was thinking of slotting them like this:

Level 18: Quills
(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(19) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(19) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(21) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(39) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure


Level 2: Death Shroud
(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(3) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(3) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(5) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(5) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50


Any better ideas out there?

Stryker.... I'm not sure I totally agree with you about killing at different speeds. I can kill a +3 level mob at the same speed on either my spines/dark or my fire/kin. Obviously the minions die first then the lt's then the bosses. Other than that everything being the same I'm leaning more towards the fast that the radius must be smaller on my scraps auras.

I'm gonna check out a few sources on the size of the auras to verify but that sounds like the most probable cause.

EDIT: I just checked out Red Tomax and sure enough... Death Shroud and Quills have an 8ft radius vs 20ft for Hot Feet. I think I'll rethink the damage procs in those powers after seeing that.


Thanks Laevateinn for the heads up on that.

I'm just curious about how the damage procs work in certains powers.

As I understand in toggle powers they have a chance to fire every 10 secs or so against every target in range of the power. In a click power they have a chance to fire every time the power is clicked based on the # of villians hit as in a target AoE or straight AoE. I assume this is correct?

The reason why I'm asking about this is because I have a lvl 50 fire/kin troller with 4 damage procs slotted into hot feet. I constantly see the procs firing off.

Level 8: Hot Feet
(A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(13) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(15) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(15) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
(17) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50


I just finished slotting out my lvl 50 spines/dark scrapper and he has 4 procs slotted into quills and 4 slotted into death shroud. I rarely see them fire off.

Level 18: Quills
(A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(19) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing): Level 30
(19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(21) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
(21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 2: Death Shroud
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(3) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(3) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(5) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
(5) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50

The powers are slotted so that I have 42.4% Acc/Dam/End. Figuring that having double the procs I would at least see them fire off as often as in hot feet but I literally only see them fire off once or twice every few mins.

Is there something with quills or death shroud that make them inherently bad choices to slot damage procs into?

I have quite a bit of experience with these sets. I changed a few things but left most of your power selections alone. It sits at 29.6% defense to S/L but does far more DPS. It's not a cheap build though so hopefully you have a rich toon to borrow from.


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So this is what the updated build looks like


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I ended up dropping kick (along with 3.75% defense to S/L) and adding in dark regen. I currently have it 4 slotted with

Touch of Nictus
acc/end/rech
acc/end/heal

Multi Strike
acc/end

Theft of Essence
chance for +endurance

How would you slot dark regen? I have 3 extra slots to toss into it.

The reason you would slot boxing is simple... for 3 slots you get 3.75% defense to smashing/lethal attacks. That adds up to alot for very little investment. I looked at it the same way as you till someone showed me the TRUE value of set bonuses.

I agree with you although I feel that whining, ********, crying or complaining about it isn't going to change the way some people act and chat. This is afterall a game which is meant to go after teenagers who in my observations are not the most caring about this sort of thing. Now I will admit that point also applies to older people who can be just as ignorant and non caring as the next generation too.

Point being... I don't feel that this is a subject that will get you "flamed" unless some of those same ignorant people jump into the forums and decide to mock you or make fun of your stance. At that point it's truly not being flamed... merely being mocked by ignorant people.

Now I'm rambling.... LOL

EDIT: just noticed that one of my words got bleeped... it is a female dog that ends in "ing"

Just thought I would throw out my dual build setups that I run. Both/fire and /stone for the best of both worlds but I cost a crapton of inf to set up.

My /fire build.

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My /stone build.


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I have my fire/kin/fire build and my fire/kin/stone that I could offer you. I have them on the same toon.... dual build.

It looks like you have a reasonably priced build that isn't bad. Definately something to build on with more expensive enhances with better bonuses later on.

Here is my fire/kin/stone for you to look at.


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Here's my fire/kin/fire to check out.


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Good points.... I'll take a loong look at my build and see if there is any way to fit it in without losing what I already have.

All I have to say is ROFLMAO!

I have no problem with people from anywhere in Washington, Idaho or even Montana. The main reason I was looking for people in Spokane specifically is that after getting to know them online maybe we could hang out in RL and chat COH or anything else. have LAN parties or any other geeky COH idea we could come up with.

This is my fire/kin/fire farming build. I use this build to farm Battle Maiden, Demons, Freaks. I have very little problems using him and he is VERY survivable.

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Ahh.... I see why I deleted it from my build. It is a click self heal power similar to Healing Flames. I figured if it gave me something other than a click heal I would take it but since it wasn't like Dull Pain giving me a boost in HP and a heal I thought I could live without it and if needed just use an inspiration for an immediate heal.

I have 260% regen and 39% (42% with the Glad's +3% I have in storage) defense which is far better than some of the spines/dark scrappers I've seen and they farm Battle Maiden and other missions with no major problems so I just figured it was a power I could skip.

Hmmm.... I honeslty have no idea why I deleted that from my build... going back to MIDS to see. What exactly does the power do for you off hand?

I have been working on both a Spines/Dark and Spines/Regen Scrappers. I pretty much have the /Regen covered but I'm wondering what everyone thinks of my /Dark build here. I will be using him mostly for Battle Maiden farming after he is completed. I focused on set bonuses for defense and procs in his AoE minor damage toggle powers.

As I'm not totally familiar with /Dark I'm hoping to see what everyone thinks and maybe an idea or 2 if I'm missing something that might be helpful.


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Nebulous Bane: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 1: Dark Embrace
(A) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(40) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(40) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(40) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(48) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30


Level 2: Death Shroud
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(3) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(3) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(5) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
(5) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50


Level 4: Spine Burst
(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
(9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50


Level 6: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
(39) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30


Level 10: Obsidian Shield
(A) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(11) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(37) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40


Level 12: Impale
(A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50
(13) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50


Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Celerity - Endurance: Level 50
(15) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 50


Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50


Level 18: Quills
(A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
(19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(21) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing): Level 30
(21) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50


Level 20: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
(23) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(25) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30


Level 22: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(25) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(27) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50


Level 24: Boxing
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 26: Tough
(A) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(31) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(34) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40


Level 28: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(37) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure


Level 30: Cloak of Darkness
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(50) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure


Level 32: Ripper
(A) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50
(33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50


Level 35: Throw Spines
(A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(36) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
(36) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50


Level 38: Oppressive Gloom
(A) Accuracy IO: Level 50


Level 41: Flurry
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 44: Kick
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 47: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 49: Physical Perfection
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(50) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


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Set Bonus Totals:
7% DamageBuff(Smashing)
7% DamageBuff(Lethal)
7% DamageBuff(Fire)
7% DamageBuff(Cold)
7% DamageBuff(Energy)
7% DamageBuff(Negative)
7% DamageBuff(Toxic)
7% DamageBuff(Psionic)
25.5% Defense(Smashing)
25.5% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
6.75% Defense(Energy)
6.75% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
14.3% Defense(Melee)
4.88% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
57.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
39% Enhancement(Accuracy)
140.6 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
Knockback (Mag -8)
Knockup (Mag -8)
MezResist(Immobilize) 19.3%
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
9.5% (0.16 End/sec) Recovery
56% (3.13 HP/sec) Regeneration
5.04% Resistance(Fire)
5.04% Resistance(Cold)


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Just trying to gather together as many players that live in Spokane, WA. as I can find. I was thinking about making an SG exclusive to those players maybe. Not sure yet.

So if you live in Spokane drop me a line reply to this thread and let me know your global so we can get together in game. I play mostly on Freedom but any server is okay as long as you are in Spokane.

Okay... I gotcha. So they do drop (very small chance) from all PvP area zones and Arena on a valid defeat.

What about that timer thing? I would hate to defeat a person and then because I run into them 4mins later and defeat them again just before the 5min timer I have to wait another 5mins vs just defeating them when they appear again. Does that make any sense?

I know that the farmers would just sit in arena and set a match for 30mins and just afk kill. I want to maximize my chances without afk killing.

I can farm and do that alot but I would prefer to not spend 2bil inf per recipe or enhance.

I know this has been asked before but with all the changes that have happened and my weak searchfu I thought it best to ask straight up.

How exactly do the recipes drop?

Are they zone only or can they drop during arena events? What arena events are eligible?

Is the timer still 5 mins between kills? If so... If I kill villian x and then 4:56 mins later I kill them again does the counter start over (have to wait another 5 mins) or can I just kill them again right away for it to count?

If I'm missing any questions that need to be asked please feel free to fill them in for me. I really want to spend some time (maybe ALOT) trying to get a panacea +regen-heal/+recovery or glad's +3% defense for a toon I'm working on.