Hyperstrike

The fifth article related to CoH in the last 3 months

Heh. I can haz traffik flud?

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Well, made it through MoSTF with Imp tonight. VERY smooth run with only one hitch when a teammate disconned due to crash. We just fell back and waited for him to come back, and then schooled LR somethin' fierce!

Three new Master toons (and Hyper's my first).

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

As of current definition by the devs themselves, time spent is a factor.

Trying to refer to rewards as "normalized" is, in and of itself, inaccurate. As rewards are still mutable through either randomization (drops) or merit/ticket adjustment.

Nobody's arguing the potency.

NOBODY.

And I repeat for good measure N O B O D Y.

What is being argued about is the selfish assumption that it's "the job" of a /Kin to play buff-bot.

Okay, I've said it before. I'll say it again.

It is NOT a binary "risk vs reward" equation.

It's a trinary equation. "Risk + Time vs reward"

The devs have hammered this point home with the advent of merits, then ripped it out and hammered it home again with the ticket nerfs in MA.

(Note: Not [censored] about the ticket nerfs, 1500 a mission is still a HELL of a lot of tickets. Just saying.)

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There is no closed beta, only open

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No no, you're doing it wrong. It goes:

"There is no Dana, only Zuul!"

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Or if you're a geek, "There is no data, only XUL!"

Then laugh at the deliberate use of misnomers.

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See, this is just horse [censored].

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If it's any consolation, I don't require that you agree with me.

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It doesn't take a sub-optimal team or a sub-optimal build to benefit from Speed Boost.

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A good thing that this is NOT what I said then.

What I said is that a team "might" perform better due to differences in power choices. Sometimes the difference will be dramatic, sometimes it won't.

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how you play your toon and the powers you select is my business.

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You've got that half-right.

As I've said before. The prospect is entirely situational.

Yes, in some instances, the team will perform sub-optimally. In others, it won't make a difference. And in some, it could cause a rash of face-plants.

Use, misuse, and disuse of a large number of powers across a broad swath of power pools could be said to have these same effects.

My problem isn't that I disagree that the person probably isn't contributing as much to the team as someone who has and uses that specific power. My problem lies with you looking down on those who choose to play their own way. Gimped or otherwise.

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A Kin who doesn't have or use SB probably won't get booted from my team, it takes more than that for me to kick someone. However, they also won't be picked for the team next time.

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Nice to know you define an entire power class by a single power within it.

Note, please, that I'm not saying you HAVE to team with these people. That's your prerogative. I just find the definition being tossed around for a "gimped" or "lazy" Kin somewhat self-serving at best.

You still miss the point. That it's their toon. NOT YOURS.

If they wish to forego a power to buff themselves or the team in another way it's none of your business. If you don't like it, don't team with them. Do them that favor.

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I doubt we've teamed, W_R, but just to be on the safe side, please just put me on your global ignore.

@Samuraiko

Why? I'm a lvl 50 grav/kin who did not take SB. For my own reasons. So... yeah. Just put me on gignore and we're good.

Thanks.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

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/threadwin.

And a /Kin controller without SB can still control and buff the team in other ways.

A Kin/ defender can still defend and buff the team in other ways.

Your point?

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This is the real reason behind all the *I won't SB* sentiment.

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No. It's a reason why someone working a solo build wouldn't take it.

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If Fulcrum was changed to a short interval, rapid recharging 200% damage buff for allies only I bet people will start coming up with excuses not to use that too.

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Oh grow up. If you want to tell another player how to play, go ahead and pay for his subscription fee. Until then, the very worst you can do is boot them from your team. However, this is likely doing the person a favor, as they don't have to put up with people insisting that they're "playing wrong".

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In the end, it never makes sense when a player declines a famous buff.

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SB may boost my attack rate. That's great. I like that. But the side-effects of super-speed are very detrimental to my performance in a fluid combat environment because control over my positioning degrades dramatically.

Thus, I usually request that a Kin withhold SB from me until I'm either:

A: In the middle of a positively huge mob where all I really need to do is turn around.

B: Shaking hands with the Big Bad's face.



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Again, I enjoy using SB because it boosts my ability to flip out and kill stuff. But I'm somewhat selective in when I use it.

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I think your missing my point. We both agree that its a tanks job to hold aggro and taunt, and that its a kins job to boost and provide support. What im saying is just because the kin isnt spamming sb doesnt mean there not a good kin. You said yourself you dont taunt every group, but its a handy tool. SB holds a place in the tray of allmost every kin. Why? Because its a valuable tool when needed. Its up to the individual player to decide when that tool is neeed, and how to best put it to use. Just like taunt is a valuable tool....when needed


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What I was getting at was that a tanker is there to maximize the team's effectiveness by holding aggro and dealing damage thereby freeing the rest of the team from having to worry about aggro. The Kin maximizes the team's effectiveness by several means as well, and the recharge buff from SB is one of the set's most powerful means of doing that. The whole point being that giving an entire team significantly more recharge means that attacks recharge faster allowing for more damage/buff/debuff output.


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Point still missed. The Kin maximizes the team's effectiveness by several means as well

Thank you for agreeing that someone who isn't spamming SB doesn't mean the controller isn't maximizing the team's effectiveness.

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We're comparing apples to oranges here with Fulcrum vs SB, both are buffs and team efficiency boosts but they accomplish it in different ways. And there's nothing stopping you from having and using both powers... you're playing below your peak if you do.


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Wrong. Fulcrum is a "team buff" or "team efficiency boost". SB is NOT. SB is an ally buff (meaning the kin gets zero benefit from it).


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SB recharges in 2 seconds and takes 1 second to cast... you'll spend roughly 21 seconds every 2 minutes keeping SB on 7 teammates. That leaves over a minute and a half free to do other things like blast, control, pop Fulcrum, hit Transference/Transfusion or whatever else you need to do. It almost never is an either/or situation with using SB or some other power; you should have plenty of time to do BOTH and that 50% recharge bonus makes a very noticeable difference. There's no time in combat when a team won't benefit from that recharge buff.


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When you're already steamrolling over your opponents, subtracting a couple seconds from the mission accomplishes nothing.

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Early game SB makes the difference between your scrappers and blasters having a complete attack chain and having gaps while waiting for powers to recharge. Later on it allows them to use their heavy hitter attacks more often and avoid having to use lower damage "filler" attacks thus increasing their DPS... this is regardless of what other recharge boosts they may have. It's like the old Scrapper saying on recharge, until your attack chain is Headsplitter, Headsplitter, Headsplitter then you need more recharge .


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So it's the /Kin's fault that his allies didn't properly slot for +recharge?

NO!

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Is having SB drop in the middle of combat for a few seconds a disaster? Of course not; but the more consistently you can maintain the buff the better your teams overall kill speed will be. You want your team using their most powerful abilities as often as they can; you have the ability to give them almost 2 more SO's of recharge for every power, unaffected by ED. Why wouldn't you want that?

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If you're going to min-max, alert your teammates first so they know what to expect. Ragging on someone because they didn't play up to your unvoiced "standard" is silly. And if they, and your teammates are happy with the pace of the mission you have exactly Richard to say about it.

Okay, posted in your dupli-thread. Figured I'd post here.

I play a tanker. I don't care to be SB'ed most of the time (deep into an AV fight is an exception). It makes me too fast (one of the reasons I don't take SS either) and my positional control (Inv/SS) goes out the window.

Additionally, I'm currently levelling a Grav/Kin troller up. Without SB. Why? Because he's soloing (and quite nicely I might add).

As such he's a GRAV/Kin, not a Grav/KIN. I've got most of my Grav/ powers maxed pre-40. Now I'm working on the /Kin side a bit more. Stuff like Siphon power and the heals were useful for soloing, so I took them. Stuff like SB, which buffs teammates, isn't. Heck, the only reason I took Siphon speed is for in-zone transit (before SJ) and now I use it primarily for the Slow component.

When I team, I make it clear to people that my current build doesn't include SB. I also make it a point to keep up stuff like Siphon Power, Transference, etc. During his first ITF, pre-Fulcrum, in addition to chucking holds, slows, and immobs left, right and center, I made sure that whatever slack was left by our defender for health issues was taken up by me. And kept everyone at 50+% endurance.

Ask any of my teammates if I was a drag on the team because of lack of SB.

Oh. And we finished the ITF in 39 minutes and change.

Simply ASSUMING that you're OWED SB by every kin on your team is selfish and stupid. PERIOD!

If you're expecting an SB buff-bot, either make SURE you communicate this desire to your Kin ahead of time and give them the option to opt-out, or buy another account and build yourself a pocket kin.

Prestige Sink

But the drain is now pinhole sized.

A single character levelling to 50 makes enough prestige to make even a maxed-out base run for 8-10 years.

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What the hell is going on?

And now support is pointing me to a page that's telling me that rent is due every 2 weeks.

So now, instead of being on a 6 week schedule (pay=0/reset,notice=+2 weeks,due=+4 weeks,shutdown=+6 weeks,repeat), I'm paying every 4 or getting shut down?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

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What's going on is that they're morons. If you go to this support page, it directly contradicts the one you linked and says:

"If base rent is not paid for a period of two weeks, you will start to see "Rent is due on X" notices when logging in. At this point your rent is not overdue, this is just a warning that you due date is coming up in two more weeks.

After four weeks, your rent is due. (emphasis mine) The message will change from "Rent is due..." to "Rent was due...". Despite this, no penalties will occur to your base at this point.

After six weeks, the power in your base will be shut off. You can still enter the base, but you will not be able to use any equipment which requires power to operate. However, you can still use items that do not require power.

After eight weeks, access to your base will be completely restricted. You will not be able to enter your base until you pay the base rent."


P.S. It has been working for me as described above. If it's cutting your power two weeks after you pay, I'd bug and petition and point them to the page I linked.

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It's not cutting my power after I pay. It's giving me the "your rent is due" notice 2 weeks too early. And, literally, right after I've just paid.

It's not so much that I object to the rent (though it's trivial enough that I'd prefer they just did away with it).

What I object to is the fact that the mechanics are broken (at least for me right now).

Right now it's supposed to be:

Pay rent.
2 weeks later get a notice that rent is due.
2 weeks later notice changes to "rent was due"
2 weeks later power is shut off.

Right now, for me, it works like this:

Pay rent.
1 DAY later, get a notice that rent is due.
2 weeks later notice changes to "rent was due"
2 weeks later power is shut off.

Needless to say I'm a might peeved over the situation.

Okay, my last rent due date was early on 05/01/09.
On 05/15/09, I hit my base and my teleporters were down due to no power (no, I wasn't over power or control).
On 05/15/09, at approximately 11PM I paid my base rent.
On 05/16/09, I get a notice that base rent is now due on 05/29/09.

What the hell is going on?

And now support is pointing me to a page that's telling me that rent is due every 2 weeks.

So now, instead of being on a 6 week schedule (pay=0/reset,notice=+2 weeks,due=+4 weeks,shutdown=+6 weeks,repeat), I'm paying every 4 or getting shut down?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Okay, prior to last night here's what I had going.

1: 9 Storage Bins (open to all above recruit)
2: 2 Storage Bins (locked to captain/leader, my personal storage)
3: 1 Storage Bin (locked to captain/leader, as an archive of "base salvage")

4: 3 Enhancement tables (open to all above recruit)
5: 1 Enhancement table (locked to captain/leader, my personal storage)

6: 1 Inspiration Bin (open to all above recruit)
7: 1 Inspiration Bin (locked to captain/leader, my personal storage)

After last night, I removed 6 of the storage bins, and one of the Enhancement tables and cleared out the contents (it was all stuff I'd put in there anyhow, so it wasn't like I was stealing from anyone).

Why did I do such a terrible, horrible thing?

I put one of these in last night. And got NOTHING done in-game after, save lots of gawpage and base tours.

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OP has a point. If I'm a good brute at level 40, why would I go back to the rogue isles to work for one of the patrons to unlock the PPPs?

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To quote Godfather Part III.

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Just when I thought I was out, they drag me back in!

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My gut feeling

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This is why humanity is in such dire straits.

We keep trying to hit nails with screwdrivers and such.

Why on earth would you feel something with your gut? Yes, it's large has a modicum of sensitivity. But it's a poor data gathering tool.

Use your mind instead!

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Well, we have good Statesmen and bad Statesmen, but... Is it just me or is Lord Nemesis evil in absolutely every dimension?

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My theory about that is that one of the Nemesi has actually offed as many other iterations of himself as possible - so the Nemesis we know is the only Nemesis that exists for most worlds. (And when you have an army of robotic duplicates, it'd be easy to make other people think there are still multiples of you)


Of course that's just my pet theory.

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*Spoiler / Rampant unsubstanciated musing *





I have read people suggesting that Mender Silos is in fact Nemesis (his name is an anagram of: 'Lord Nemesis').

So, that'd be one 'good' Nemesis.
Unless, of course, the anonymous letters are right...

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Mender Silos

Mender Si__s

Lo

Mende_ Si__s

Lor

Men_e_ Si__s

Lord

Me__e_ Si__s

Lord N

M___e_ Si__s

Lord Ne

M___e_ Si__s

(contraction) MESIS

Lord Nemesis

Also, simply because the ends he works towards seem beneficial doesn't mean they're "good" ends.