HelinCarnate

Perma sould drain with max targets will only get you a constant damage buff of +96%, plus "full" fury for another 150% plus veng will get you to +281%. Which makes me wonder why you include veng in your numbers unless you bring a corpse with you just for buff purposes.

Now I'm pretty good at math and I'm pretty sure that does not come close to 400+. This means you are either lying, leaving out other buffs or you have no idea what you are talking about. Also just because people say it is the fastest they have seen does not mean that it is the fastest. Not saying it is slow, just that there is faster.

Exactly correct. The damage aura from spines, fire and dark cause mobs to flee when their HP start getting low vs a scrapper. This is a non issue with brutes because of the taunt mixed in that keeps the mobs close. Even on ambush farms where you will have plenty of other targets, eventually you will get the numbers down and have a dozen or more mobs running around with no way to group them together.

Exactly right. Buy up maybe 1k worth of random common arcane salvage from 26-40 and sell it for 1 inf on the market. You will be able to finance your toon much better than buying your SOs on AE.

Or maybe they could get salvage by spending a small number of AE tickets for a random common drop. They could even make it so you could get specific drops you wanted for rare and uncommon drops so you don't have to waste your tickets that way on random rolls.

Putting a cap on prices would also put a floor on prices. It would take that common salvage that no one buys and drive up the price to the cap, or slightly below. Please feel free to find any example in history where price caps were applied when this did not happen.



The problem with the idea of linking drop rates to prices is that not all common salvage has the same demand, therefore should not all be worth the same price on a free market. Also there is no "need" for salvage, it is a want. Just picking nits there.

So what happens when someone buys up all of a worthless common salvage and then lists them all at higher prices that no one will ever buy? You would get an influx of that worthless drop and the drops for other things would decrease. If anything, that idea opens up the market even more to people to screw things up.


History has shown the best way to fix a market is for regulators to stay the hell away and not try and fix things.

Your observastions you listed here are better than most because you are lowering the number of variables. Prevously no mention was made of what testing was done, only that it seemed to work better one way over another.

I would actually love to check it out but it is quite difficult to find a team of people willing to test this. Those that do want to run a LGTF want to burn through as fast as possible. Even on shard runs, they burn through that mish as fast as they can to get to the last mission. I do have my main on Freedom and would be glad to be part of a test group to try and figure out just what the hell, if anything is going on with the pylons. Sat and Sun work for me.


And I do agree with most that if the leader says to do the mish one way that you should do it that way and do your best to save arguements as to who is right/wrong until after the TF and in tells. No need to get everyone upset on a TF and ruin others fun. Exceptions would be if they were suggesting to do something utterly stupid or ignorant like trying to kill Hami first before the rikti, mitos, or pylons.

Buy up all the uncommon salvage with 0 bids by bidding 11 and vendor everything. Do the same with rare recipies. No you will not get rich this way but you can easily fund a new toon through the earlier levels to keep your enhancemnts current. Lower levels also have those expensive drops that you probably don't need at the time so you can sell those as well. I was able to figure this stuff out on my own when I was new.

Use the market more and more inf will be sunk into market fees. Inf sinks take money out of the system, slowing the rate of inflation. Granted not by much in this game but still better than nothing. So why would they not encourage the same item to be sold over and over, thereby taking more and more fake money out of the game?

And yet there have been others that say they have been targeted and hit by Hami both before and after the pylons were down without being that close. From my personal observations it would appear that Hami just kind of sits there until someone gets too close, and does not seem to matter if the pylons are up or down.

So far, not a single person has offered any other proof other than observations. Observations (including my own) that can be flawed due to several different variables, not under the control of the observer, on different teams. No one has scanned Hami before and after the pylons were down to find any difference in any powers. No one has found any discription of any power that would cause Hami to have a different aggro range depending on the status of the pylons. No red name has come in and said, hahaha you are all wrong, this is how it works. All we have is conflicting observatsions.

The OP was looking for proof that leaving the pylons up makes things easier. So far, there has been none.

Too bad people can just decide not to buy popsicles, or make them on thier own or wait until the popsicle factory makes more for the reasonable vendors.

Sadly there are those stupid people out there that will demand to have popsicles no matter what the cost. OMFG you want $80 for a POPSICLE!!! that is way too high, I cannot afford that! That is just insane, Im going to call the mayor, my representative, the BBB the govonor and the president to make you charge less for your popsicles..... gimme 4 please.

Correlation does not equal causation. You can observe several fat people drinking diet coke but that does not mean that the diet coke is what caused them to be fat. Just because leaving the pylons up and less aggro from Hami happened at the same time means squat.

People have had personal OBSERVATIONS that are wrong, such as the world being flat. People were just as passionate about being wrong about that topic as people seem to be about being wrong on this topic.

At that point you are pretty close if you are slotted for +100% damage.

So if fury increased the damage so it could easily outstrip scrapper damage with a direct port, the way to combat that was to increase the base damage so that fury would have an even greater effect on each attack? Sure each attack also has longer recharge but it does not take much effort to get those numbers down once you start slotting IOs.

The fact is that not counting criticals, with typical slotting any direct port from scrappers to brutes will have the brute doing similar damage at 65% fury. Once you factor in critcals a brute at full (read 75%) fury does right around the same damage. Build up and any other +damage for the scrapper will easily push them ahead. Since this is not an issue for any of the other sets the 2 ATs share it would seem the fury arguemnt does not hold water, or else you would see modifications to other sets as well.

So what was the reasoning? I don't know. Maybe just to make it feel more brutish.