Gypsy_of_Paradox

And even then you have to consider player skill and powerset. Controllers have the advantage of debuffs/buffs to add in their combat. Doms can lock it down and deal the damage w/o much help. Subpar damage when compared to ATs that have direct damage as their primary. However all doms have ranged and melee attacks which can be an advantage. The road to perma dom is hell, takes planning and a lot of grinding. But the results a far better then the results of IOing my controllers.

Learned and knew are two different things, truthfully I was surprised at the level of passion some felt about players w/o SB. It's never bothered me when kins on my team didn't have it. I play on Infinity, we're not really picky as long are people trying. I don't play on other servers, so I can't judge them.

Nobodies a victim, I simply voiced what I learned from the thread. No where did I state people who are pro-SB are brainless. You simply gathered all of extra stuff from your own assumptions. Now who is the troll?

What's funny is it was a legit question, was never intended to be a "troll" attempt. Assumptions and threadjacks killed the point.

Bottom line, if you're a kin w/o speedboost expect the following.

1) Kicked from team because of the lack of one power out of a great set.
2) Being called selfish for not having a team buff ( o.O personally I think people are selfish to expect it)
3) Also being called any if not all of the following, n00b, horrible player, can't build a toon, etc.

That being said, all team buffs are great help and help push the team further. However a good buff doesn't make a good player. I honestly feel if the sb-less Kin on the team is pulling their weight, why reprimand him/her? I don't see any of my controllers/doms scolded for being petless, even though pets provide damage. I don't see my fire tank being kicked for not having taunt, his aura keeps aggro just fine. I don't see my toons who haven't taken the rez from their set kicked. So in the end, call me a troll, neg rep me more (not a big deal, been disabled since the beginning). It doesn't really matter in the end, because it's only a game.

TFs shouldn't require you to have all those buffs/pets in order to finish anything.

Speed TFs are fun for some and not for others, which is fine, no arguments there. I like speed runs because they challenge you beyond the norm of the game. Spiking Cyst solo is no easy feat for most builds for example. The "fix" made the LGTF harder for everyone, not just speed teams. The LGTF is no longer a TF where any AT works, you *MUST* have enough control to reach 50 mags of hold. Or as stated earlier a load of temps.

Yea that would be nice since most teams cannot hit anywhere close to 50 mags of hold. This change burned this TF for many people. I ask how it worked in design to give mitos this much hold protection? Most AVs don't have regen auras like mitos do and they are easier to hold. My Doms can perma hold nearly everything in the game and these mitos give him them a hard time.

Support is telling us, its working as intended and screwing people out of the merits they deserve. I personally love this TF, but if changes are not put through, I already have the badge on my main badger. I will simply avoid this TF.

My question was their stance on the power, my replies did not question their stance. My replies informed them that I'm aware of the benefits. My intentions were not hostile, but in a text environment thats difficult to perceive.


Selfish? Maybe, more so I asked how many people would it piss off if I didn't have the power. Seems like it would piss off a lot people in the end, which shows which end is more selfish.

No, I expect the devs to remove the need to grind to get perma

Seriously though, its not the same, I've never kicked or seen a dom kicked for not being perma. Grinding and building for perma is a personal choice. Would I prefer it? Yes. Do I expect it? No. It's their toon, I don't pay their fees. I don't see it as the same because one is a team buff thats annoying to upkeep and obviously upsets people when they don't have it.


I don't think I'm uber or "l33t", far from it. If I felt that way, I wouldn't of even asked the question.

I was never angry at anyone, your example showed an example on the use of the power. I simply replied what I think about Doms who don't attempt to perma. I know more then a few doms who refuse to even try to perma. In turn, I agree, I'm extremely "thick" as you stated when it comes to perma dom. I feel the same about petless MMs.

As I stated previously its still in my current build, w/ macros included. I'll see how big teams go and maybe learn to adapt. I just don't understand why people get all upset about people "having" to have the power. Kinetics brings so much more to the team other than speed boost. I've personally never kicked a kin w/o SB myself. Its clear this is a touchy subject.

I know what you mean, my Earth/Thermal normally drives me insane. Control/Heal/Buff/Debuff I rarely play him for that reason. I just people would think outside the box on this question. I build all my toons not to absolutely need buffs, even my stone armor brute doesn't need SB lol

Why? its one power, only one power in the set. A tank w/o mez resistance is ridiculous IMO. A kin still brings a lot to the table even w/o SB.

Exactly why my wife said I wouldn't like SBing a group, lol

TCS, you're coming off thinking I have no clue what recharge does. I fully aware of what the power does man, I have those binds and macros already made. My point was "Not liking having to buff every 90 seconds and wanting to focus dealing damage". No where does that state I'm unaware of everything you've stated. Read the whole thread in fact, I already mentioned I have the macros. Relax man