Grimlek

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IIRC the snow storm, tornado, and freezing rain powers generate some degree of "flee" mechanic as well... though I'm pretty sure EBs and above resist those flee effects.

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There is a fear or flee component to some of storm's powers. I thought it was tornado and lightning storm. I can confirm though that it affects EB/AVs. I would try to solo them on my Illusion/Storm controller and could never get the kill as they would run away from my lightning storms and regenerate most of their health back.

What makes it worst is I couldn't immobilize them

Here's another quick and dirty build for the combo you asked for originally. Again, not perfect...sort of cookie cutter that you can decide what you like and cut the rest out.

Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Empathy
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01 => Healing Aura ==> Heal(1),Heal(5),EndCost(11),Rech(34),Heal(46)
01 => Char ==> Acc(1),Acc(3),Rech(7),Hold(19),Hold(43)
02 => Ring of Fire ==> Acc(2),Acc(3),Dam(7),Dam(19),Dam(43)
04 => Heal Other ==> Heal(4),Heal(5),EndCost(11),Rech(34),Heal(46)
06 => Combat Jumping ==> DefBuff(6)
08 => Fire Cages ==> Acc(8),Acc(9),EndCost(9),Immob(17)
10 => Hurdle ==> Jump(10)
12 => Flashfire ==> Acc(12),Acc(13),Rech(13),Rech(15),DisDur(15),DisDu r(17)
14 => Super Jump ==> Jump(14)
16 => Clear Mind ==> Range(16)
18 => Health ==> Heal(18)
20 => Stamina ==> EndMod(20),EndMod(21),EndMod(21)
22 => Fortitude ==> Rech(22),Rech(23),Rech(23),DefBuff(37),DefBuff(40)
24 => Hot Feet ==> EndCost(24),EndCost(25),Acc(25),Acc(31),Dam(31),Da m(46)
26 => Cinders ==> Acc(26),Acc(27),Rech(27),Hold(31),Hold(50)
28 => Recovery Aura ==> Rech(28),Rech(29),Rech(29)
30 => Resurrect ==> EndCost(30)
32 => Fire Imps ==> Acc(32),Acc(33),Dam(33),Dam(33),Dam(34)
35 => Regeneration Aura ==> Rech(35),Rech(36),Rech(36),Heal(36),Heal(37),Heal( 37)
38 => Adrenalin Boost ==> Rech(38),Rech(39),Rech(39),EndMod(39),Heal(40),Hea l(40)
41 => Fire Ball ==> Acc(41),Acc(42),Dam(42),Dam(42),Dam(43)
44 => Fire Shield ==> EndCost(44),DamRes(45),DamRes(45),DamRes(45)
47 => Consume ==> Acc(47),Acc(48),Rech(48),Rech(48),EndMod(50),EndMo d(50)
49 => Bonfire ==> Dam(49)

I hope that helped

For a short period of time, while running an all-Thugs superteam we were able to trigger 8 at once.

I have never had such an easy time playing this game

Either one of those would be a superteam out of the box and very survivable. I would barely lean toward the Robots/ just thematically speaking.

I, however, would not want to play either of the /FFs and have to bubble 18 pets

This is a quick Fire/Rad build that would let you try most of the good powers out. It is by no means perfect, or even the build I run, but like you said you can tweak it and respec into the powers you end up liking when you play

I will try to thow together a Fire/Emp one too if you like.

Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Radiation Emission
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01 => Radiant Aura ==> Heal(1),Heal(5)
01 => Char ==> Acc(1),Acc(3),Rech(9),Hold(19),Hold(46)
02 => Ring of Fire ==> Acc(2),Acc(3),Dam(9),Dam(40),Dam(46)
04 => Radiation Infection ==> EndCost(4),EndCost(5),ToHitDeBuff(11),ToHitDeBuff( 11),DefDeBuff(46)
06 => Accelerate Metabolism ==> Rech(6),Rech(7),Rech(7),EndMod(50)
08 => Combat Jumping ==> DefBuff(8)
10 => Hurdle ==> Jump(10)
12 => Flashfire ==> Acc(12),Acc(13),Rech(13),Rech(15),DisDur(15),DisDu r(19)
14 => Super Jump ==> Jump(14)
16 => Fire Cages ==> Acc(16),Acc(17),EndCost(17),Immob(43),Immob(43)
18 => Health ==> Heal(18)
20 => Stamina ==> EndMod(20),EndMod(21),EndMod(21)
22 => Hot Feet ==> EndCost(22),EndCost(23),Acc(23),Acc(25),Dam(36),Da m(37)
24 => Enervating Field ==> EndCost(24),EndCost(25)
26 => Lingering Radiation ==> Acc(26),Acc(27),Rech(27),Rech(36),Rech(37)
28 => Choking Cloud ==> EndCost(28),EndCost(29),EndCost(29),Hold(31),Hold( 34),Hold(36)
30 => Cinders ==> Acc(30),Acc(31),Rech(31),Hold(34),Hold(37)
32 => Fire Imps ==> Acc(32),Acc(33),Dam(33),Dam(33),Dam(34)
35 => Mutation ==> EndCost(35)
38 => EM Pulse ==> Acc(38),Acc(39),Rech(39),Rech(39),Hold(40),Hold(40 )
41 => Fire Ball ==> Acc(41),Acc(42),Dam(42),Dam(42),Dam(43)
44 => Fire Shield ==> EndCost(44),EndCost(45),DamRes(45),DamRes(45)
47 => Consume ==> Acc(47),Acc(48),Rech(48),Rech(48),EndMod(50),EndMo d(50)
49 => Bonfire ==> Dam(49)

I wouldn't mind throwing something together for you, but as your first controller I wouldn't normally recommend that combination. Fire/Radiation maybe?

If you're set on Fire/Empathy realize it is a very busy combo. This is a very teaming-oriented combo that will be able to provide support, but it would be very difficult to solo unless you build for it specifically.

Will you be teaming exclusively? What role are you trying to fill for your team? All of this will help the forumites here to offer advice

Thank you very much for the quick response. I'll plan on moving Fighting up sooner and probably drop Dark Consumption for something else then.

Thanks!

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If we take Scrappers as the midpoint

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This made me laugh out loud at work

Werner and Umbral, I was reading your advice and I am thinking of rolling a DM/Regen as well. I generally make a SO build for leveling up and frankenslot later on.

Would you or anyone else have any advice for this build with a quick glance? I don't have access to Mid's right now, but I was going to play with the slotting a bit more tonight when I get home. Thanks in advance.

01 => Fast Healing ==> Heal(1),Heal(5),Heal(15)
01 => Shadow Punch ==> Acc(1),Acc(3),Dam(17),Dam(36),Dam(40),Rech(50)
02 => Smite ==> Acc(2),Acc(3),Dam(17),Dam(36),Dam(40),Rech(50)
04 => Quick Recovery ==> EndMod(4),EndMod(5),EndMod(15)
06 => Reconstruction ==> Rech(6),Rech(7),Rech(7),Heal(37),Heal(42),Heal(46)
08 => Siphon Life ==> Acc(8),Acc(9),Dam(9),Dam(34),Dam(42),Rech(46)
10 => Hasten ==> Rech(10),Rech(11),Rech(11)
12 => Shadow Maul ==> Acc(12),Acc(13),Dam(13),Dam(34),Dam(42)
14 => Super Speed ==> RunSpd(14)
16 => Integration ==> EndCost(16),Heal(19),Heal(19),Heal(37)
18 => Hurdle ==> Jump(18)
20 => Health ==> Heal(20),Heal(21),Heal(21)
22 => Stamina ==> EndMod(22),EndMod(23),EndMod(23)
24 => Dull Pain ==> Rech(24),Rech(25),Rech(25),Heal(40),Heal(43),Heal( 50)
26 => Soul Drain ==> Acc(26),Acc(27),Rech(27),Rech(34),Rech(43)
28 => Instant Healing ==> Rech(28),Rech(29),Rech(29),Heal(36),Heal(43)
30 => Dark Consumption ==> Acc(30),Acc(31),Rech(31),Rech(31),EndMod(37)
32 => Midnight Grasp ==> Acc(32),Acc(33),Dam(33),Dam(33),Dam(39),Rech(46)
35 => Revive ==> EndMod(35)
38 => Moment of Glory ==> Rech(38),Rech(39),Rech(39)
41 => Kick ==> Empty(41)
44 => Tough ==> EndCost(44),DamRes(45),DamRes(45),DamRes(45)
47 => Weave ==> EndCost(47),DefBuff(48),DefBuff(48),DefBuff(48)
49 => Resilience ==> DamRes(49)

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fungi tunic in everquest.

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FTW!!

I went Grav/TA myself and it's loads of fun, although a bit clicky. Being able to stack holds on bosses and play at range is nice.

I just got Wormhole, but I am really waiting for Oil Slick Arrow. Port 'em and burn 'em... can't wait

I hope you enjoy whatever you decide

/signed

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Welcome to Architect Entertainment -- Neutral
Death for Dollars! -- Neutral
Bare Knuckles of Rage (9304)
Signal to Noise -- Neutral -- 67277
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Character/Supergroup Origins
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Birth of a Fossil -- Heroic
Secret Origins(Tech) The Snake Women of Epsilon V (42221) - Heroic
Noah Reborn -- Heroic (2370)
Jumping in Feet First - Heroic - 1345
Midnight Bells Toll ----Villanious
A hero is made, not born. -- Heroic 20863
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Classic Super-Hero/Super-Villain
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THE BOMBER --- Heroic --- Arc 16607
In The Shadow of Statesman --Neutral--1160
A Show to Die For! --- Heroic --- 30645
Check... and Mate #15095 - Heroic - Mini Task Force
Teen Phalanx Forever! -- Heroic (67335)
This Life Immortal - (5756) Heroic
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Comedy
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The Extadine Lab -- Heroic (2595)
MacGuffin Delivery Service (1567) -- Villainous
ParaCon -- Heroic (1684)
The new and improved Lord Recluse Strike Force -- Villainous (though I wouldn't recommend against a hero )
The Fire Bunnies - Neutral, They are only bunnies after all...
You Say It's Your Birthday! (3630) - Neutral
Trademark Infringement -- Heroic (2220)
Hail to the King Neutral (34640)
Walk On the Wild Side - Neutral - 3580
Shirley You Jest (25474) -- Neutral
The Invasion of the Bikini Clad Samurai Vampiresses from Outer Space! - Heroic - 61013
Gnomish Madness (30204) - Heroic
Doctor Nadir and the Hellion Heist (49661) - Heroic
Laugh? I Thought I'd DIE! - Heroic
The P.U.G. Strike force (arc 35585) -Villian
A Translator is the Wind or the Thunder in Turns -- (2936) - Heroic
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Comedy/Drama
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The Running of the Bulls -- Heroic 29973
A Super Team is Born -- Heroic
Cause of How Some Silly Stealed My Wings #1481 -- Neutral
How to Survive a Robot Uprising -- Heroic (12669)
Dr. Duplicate's Dastardly Dare -- Neutral
It's a Nice Day for a White Wedding (9059) -- Neutral
TURG FICTION: Ghost in the Machine, Act I - Heroic (althoughs romantic villains could try this too )
Rum Runners of Bloody Bay (3691) - Heroic
Have a Blap, Blap, Blappy Day Kids! (2019)
The Toypocalypse! (49280) - Heroic
Fishing for Fame with Red Herring - Heroic (66861)
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Crime/Gangs
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Bricked Electronics -- Heroic (LIVE! 2180)
The Bravuran Jobs -- Villainous (16809)
The Monstrous Regiment of Lesbian Hellions -- Heroic (27178)
Win the 2009 Freak-Lympics (2150) - Villainous
Ninja Crimewave! (2142) - Heroic
Whitehawks (Arc 49364) -- Heroic
The Internet is for Crime (53385) - Villains
Plastic Pistol Peril (1135) - Heroic
Friends in Need (Of Body Parts) - Villainous (31005)
A Little RnR - Heroic (17523) click for Promotional Poster


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Drama
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The Conciliators: Simone -- Heroic (4010)
The Fan Club -- Heroic
Matchstick Women -- Heroic -- 3369
Of Mentors and Legacy - Heroic - 1589
Digital Love -- Neutral -- 3571
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Global Domination
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Axis and Allies -- Villainous (1379)
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Heist
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Celebrity Kidnapping -- Villainous (1388)
Easy Money -- Villainous (31490)
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Historical (Realistic)
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Wrinkle in Time -- Heroic(68920)
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Historical (CoH Lore)
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The War on Superadine - The Regulators in their 1980's drug war (Heroic) (Arc 7959)
Origins - Volume 1 (57077) -- Heroic
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Holiday
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Hectic Holidays -- Heroic (36999) also comedy
Santa's Missing List - 34961
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Horror
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Astoria in D Minor (41565) -- Heroic
Dark Dreams (3615)
Don't Play With The Dead (31813) -- Neutral
The Amulet of J'gara (1709) -- Heroic
Project: Perilous - Into the Chthonian Pit (#3586) - Neutral (Unless you happen to be a mad cultist, in which case, go nuts!)
Small Fears -- Heroic
Lights, Camera, Scream! (#68627) - 3 Mission arc that get's you into the B-Horror film circuit.
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Large-Scale Crisis
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This Is War, Part I - the Revenge of Hro'Dtohz -- Neutral
Win the Past, Own the Future - Heroic
A Warrior's Friend - Heroic
The Clockwork War -- Heroic (18672)
Flight of the Valkyries - Precursor (20272) -- Neutral
The Human Hive (#1632) - Neutral
War of the Worlds - The Anakim Invasion - Part 1, Neutral (15006)
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....ue#Post13304513
War of the Worlds - The Anakim Invasion - Part 2, The Terran Revolt, Neutral (46711)
url=http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=13304455&an=0&am p;page=0#Post13304455
Bleed the Freak - Arc ID #6919 - Heroic
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Magic
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The Magical Miss Fitz (5079) -- Heroic
Chains of Blood (5492) -- Heroic
A Deal with Destiny -- Heroic
The Broken Chain (82378) -- heroic
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Military
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Redoubt Operations #1: Fires over Kalago -- Heroic
Red Storm Rising (Arc 4912) -- Heroic
Whitehawks (Arc 49364) -- Heroic
Axis and Allies -- Villainous (1379)
Vanguard AQUA (58475) -- Neutral

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Misc. Adventure
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The Portal Bandits (3326) -- Heroic
A Glitch in the Wyre- Arc 73197-- Neutral (Fun for both the good kids and the bad kids too!)

Mystery
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Blowback (18575) -- Heroic
Dream Paper -- Heroic (13030)
Dream Paper 2: Restless Sleep -- Heroic (16797)
Dream Paper 3: Broken Dreams -- Heroic (13064)
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Mythology
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Atlantis Attacks! -- Neutral (30898) -- Click for Promotional Poster
Anactoria's Descent Into the Underworld -- Villainous
The Seelie War -- Heroic
The Unseelie War -- Villainous
Tales of Cimerora, volume 1 : Of feathers and fur -- Heroic
The Aegis Affair - Heroic
Witches and Warriors (53006)- Heroic
The War of Fate(12220,46722)- Heroic
Rites of the Maenads (61159) - Heroic
The Parable of the Fruit Salad -- Heroic -- 65369
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Nemesis Plots
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Brass Reaver: Part 1 -- Neutral
The Handbag Plot -- Heroicish -- 36414
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Player-Chosen Outcome
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Hunting the Dark Dragon -- Heroic
Playing Gods -- Heroic (51106)
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Sci-Fi
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Adventures of the Space Marines -- Neutral
Adventures of the Space Marines 2 -- Neutral
Above Mars - Part 1: The Wellington -- Neutral (13215)
The Final Nemesis
The Adventures of the United Earth Rangers -- Neutral (29549)
The Continuing Adventures of the United Earth Rangers -- Neutral (70237)
Spaced Invaders --Heroic(56856)
That Mysterious Buzzing Sound - 12774
The Knights of Rularuu -- Heroic (75386)
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Un-themed Survival/AV/Time Challenges
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The Meatgrinder -- Neutral
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Puzzles/Riddles
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Grim Riddles (#1396) - Heroic

No weapons on my level 3, have fun

http://grimlek.mybrute.com

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read Pet Powers will no longer be affected by an "outside" source (i.e. Speed Boost), and I wish I remembered the post. Does this mean that slotted Enhancements within the power itself will affect it still? Or are those still considered 'outside sources' making the power unaffected by the enhanced slots? Would a recharge enhancement be ignored completely by this power reducing not only the pet's attack recharge, but also the overall power recharge?


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pets and pseudo pets can no longer have their own powers' recharge affected at all. slotting recharge ehancements will still make the summon come up faster.

Edited for clarity

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But what about exemptions to this fix. Thats what most of us want to know about. We already know its possible for some exemptions because there have been reports that the defender lightning storm still behaves the same as on live as on test yet the controller/corrupter/mastermind version of the power is now uneffected by recharge. I do think at the very least if you are making the powers not take recharge any more and if they arent able to be targeted anyways then maybe you can up the damage or change the recharge itself. I just really hate for lightning storm to become worthless outside of boss/av fights.

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Powers like Lightning Storm, Voltaic Sentinel and Auto Turret are precisely the powers that were targeted by this fix. Making exemptions for them would defeat the purpose, don't you think?

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Well, that's it I guess. Hopefully at some point LS can receive some sort of buff (I think endurance cost is the main problem), but until then no point in worrying about it.

It's gonna take some time and respecs to gut my Illusion/Storm character of IOs, but there are other toons to play. This game is still very fun for me, just not the Storm Summoning set any longer.

I think some problems lie with the fact that raw numbers and experiences don't always mesh. Also, attack chains differ with what is used here and what someone else might do against a single target.

Just like some people play one way and think "Earth Sucks" and use flashfire when attacking single targets with a fire controller. That won't mean the next person will have the same experience.

The numbers are just that. Just watching these videos there are things that I would have done differently, but that is not to say the numbers are not good to look at sometimes. I'm merely saying I would take the word of someone who has played Illusion with different secondaries (like Local_Man for example) when trying to find out how a set performs before trusting numbers in a vacuum.

Each set will perform differently in different hands and with different secondaries. It should not be a poor reflection on any primary set, especially if you have experience that doesn't correspond with the numbers.

I like what you're doing here as well. Only thing I noticed is when I attack on my Illusion controller, it's sometimes Blind - SW - SW - Blind, etc...

Our slotting may be different though, so that may not work best for what you are testing.

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Has anyone found or written a plant/storm guide that i can look at, because there's none listed in the main index first page. I'm interested in skill synergies, and what to expect for grouping/duo'ing.

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I have been thinking of rolling a plant/storm lately and came here looking for a guide as well.

I have heard and can imagine that SoC, Freezing Rain, Roots combo does pretty well, but was interested in some of the other powers and how it plays level 38+ in general.

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Very extensive, well-written guide. The explaination of each power is great too. I don't have Mind/Storm, but it gave me some good ideas for my Mind/TA and makes me want to roll a Mind/Storm.

Goodluck and God Bless. You will truly be missed Lighthouse.

Power Boost is the only one I find useless on my character, but I can see how it would be a good power for other controllers that have buffs/heals/holds they use, etc... My illusion controller can't really use it from what I can tell, so an AoE attack would be nice