Golden Girl
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Don't you like dismantling loyalist tyranny with grace and forethought?
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Quote:The correct term is "convergence"Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Good lord, what a pile-up of plot lines.
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Anti-matter is a loyalist - and deep down, all loyalists know what they are.
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Amd now, for your further entertainment, I bring you the latest wacky multiverse gossip from Prometheus
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The Hamidon is at war with Praetoria once more.
Quote:Now that we have proof? You don't sound like you are surprised."Indeed. That does seem to be the conclusion we can draw from Desdemona's acquisition of the knowledge held in the mask. This information will prove quite... illuminating... to the populace.
I do believe that we may have a much simpler time of expelling Cole now that we have proof of his past dealings with the Hamidon."
Why would Cole risk all of Praetoria by angering the Hamidon?Quote:"Surprised? No, no I am not. While I did not know the full details concerning the resolution of the Hamidon Wars, I expected that Cole had in some way negotiated the survival of Praetoria. One does not just "defeat" the Hamidon, especially not Marcus Cole before he became the Well's 'champion'.
No. The only way that Cole could have staved off the complete consumption of Praetoria would have been to find some way to convince the Hamidon to stop. In the Well's eyes, such an act is a display of power. Whether by words or force, power over another is appreciated by the Well."
Byt why? Why does the Well need a champion?Quote:"Why? Because Cole believes that Praetoria is at greater risk if he doesn't act. As destructive as The Hamidon and the Devouring Earth were, they unified Praetorian Earth's people into one. He believes that Primal Earth, however, threatens to turn Praetoria on itself and undo everything he has done. He risks all of Praetoria because it is already at great risk from both outside and within.
Cole's plans for dominion over Primal Earth played a great role in why he was chosen as 'champion'. The Well shares the same desire as Cole, to expand his empire such that the peoples of two dimensions, if not more, follow his banner.
For Cole, it means security and peace for humanity, and he sought to swiftly bring Primal Earth to heel before the Hamidon could take notice. The potential reward he saw in swift action was worth the risk, and he chose accordingly.
For the Well, however, Cole's success in conquering Primal Earth would have meant that he would hold sway over two of the strongest dimensions of humanity and become an unparalleled champion. With both worlds under his command he would be well-positioned to face down any future threats to either dimension... and that is what the Well really wants.
If we were to fail in deposing Cole, and he successfully completes his conquest, however, he would still be but a single champion. It would be, as humans say, 'putting all the eggs in one basket.'"
(Prometheus sighs deeply. You can tell that he is struggling with telling you
this.)
Wait, wait...this sounds like you knew this would happen all along? Did you?Quote:"The Well requires a champion to defend against the force known as Battalion, which you have long heard referenced as 'The Coming Storm'. With the events in Galaxy City upon Primal Earth, the advance scouts of Battalion have made themselves known, and it is only a matter of time before the rest of the force follows.
The Battalion is an extraordinarily powerful race which scours the Primal dimension for species who exhibit the hallmarks of great power. Those you know as the Kheldians fell prey to their onslaught, and the Battalion have been doing this for some time.
Their sights are now set on humanity, and specifically on the Well."
Are you kidding? You imperil all of us becasue you don't want Cole to be the champion?Quote:"Well, in a manner of speaking. I knew something of the truth behind Cole's reign, and I knew quite a lot about Cole's role as champion. Cole always intended to, one day, pacify Primal Earth. He has long seen it as a lawless, dangerous dimension that posed a continual threat to the survival of Praetoria. The Well, for its part, was aware of the threat from Battalion, and knew the battle against them would be fought within the Primal dimension. It also knew that Statesman and Lord Recluse desired little to do with it. They would not do as champions.
Cole, however, already sought dominion over Primal Earth... a goal in line with its own ends. This led to its choice of Cole as champion. It was, ultimately, a matter of expediency, with the Well reinforcing Cole's already lofty ambitions with the power needed to achieve them.
When Cole made the fateful decision to invade Primal Earth, I also knew that this decision would likely place him in quite the precarious position. Though the champion, he would be hard pressed to manage the situation should he need to fend off threats in Praetoria, even possibly the Hamidon, while also conquering the various Earths. So far as I could foresee, the only way he could succeed would be to become ever more dependent upon the Well.
I was not about to let such a situation come to pass."
The Well may be bad, Prometheus, but it's clear your grudge against it has made you mad.Quote:"Nonsense. Events in Galaxy City notwithstanding, the Battalion are still moving into place. I am not imperiling anyone. You have seen to that, and you will see to it as you continue dismantling Cole's tyranny.
Do you not already see what you are doing? You are defeating Cole and his empowered minions at every turn, and you are doing so with grace and forethought, rather than with blunt force, as Cole does. You are proving your worth with every step.
You and your allies, with my help, are becoming the Well's champions. You will be the ones to free Praetoria from the grasp of the Hamidon. You will be the ones to stop Battalion. You will be the ones upon whom all of existence may one day depend. And you will do it all without being under the control of that... that... PUDDLE!"
This is not over, Prometheus. What ever your mission is, it cannot have included this.Quote:"I care not what you think of me, because all I am interested in is making sure the right champions are in place when Battalion brings more force to bear than mere scouts. If you have any interest in your own survival, you will see to it that this conflict with Praetoria is resolved in your favor."
Fine, but this will come up again, I promise you.Quote:"You are not in a position to know that, are you? Do not dare to presume you know what my mission is or my motives are.
Now, then, I've told you enough. If you wish to discuss anything further, we can discuss the challenges you face in Praetoria." -
Quote:Sauron was the servant of MorgothOriginally Posted by DMystic
I think you have Sauron confused with Sarumen
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When Desdemona puts on Vanessa's mask to access it's memories, she says that it feels alive - I think Vanessa's consciousness might make an appearance in the future
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Quote:Because Tyrant had already killed Stefan Richter - he was the only Well-drinker left on Praetorian Earth - plus, the Well itself was still "sleeping" at the time - it's only recently "woken up" because of the approach of the Coming Storm.Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
My point is that if the Hamidon is that much of a threat, why can't the Well take over the ones that have already drunk from it and have them all beat down hami.
It was in response to the idea that Tyrant had to face Hami all by his lonesome. THAT aspect I'm not buying. -
Quote:She's alive and dead at the same time - the same way that Frostfire is leading the Outcasts in the Hollows while also being a Hero on Peregrine Island.Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
So... at any given point in time, is Praetorian Vanessa DeVore alive or dead?
Not that I really care whether she lives or dies, but the single player storylines shoved into a multiplayer game are part of why I stopped reading mission text. If she is "dead" will she still be standing around in Praetoria as a trainer? Does she resurrect everytime we have to refarm this trial and is dead immediately after? When I am running Lambda just a Underground am I correct to assume she is still dead or did time reset and she is alive again?
Seems like we have a case of Schroedinger's Carnie.
It's all based in level progression - events from one level will sometimes change by the time you get to another level. -
Quote:Which is the position the Resistance find themselves inOriginally Posted by BYiro
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
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Quote:If it's too gray, heroes wouldn't be able to play itOriginally Posted by rian_frostdrake
also, if i may villains advocate here, how long have reds been dragged along on content that seemed awfully heroic for the greater good? some morally difficult stuff for heroes to do is really not unfair at this point, is it?
Co-op content has to be heroic by default, to maximize the number of players who can take part in it - Trials take a lot of resources to develop, so it's only sensible to make them available for as many people as possible to get the best return on the development time spent on them.
Which means for the post-Praetorian Trials, no, you can't side with the Shivans
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Quote:Freedom?Originally Posted by That_Ninja
What will Emperor Cole say when we destroy his empire?
"Tell me, [Character Name], if you can. You have destroyed so much. What is it, exactly, that you have created? Can you name even one thing? I thought not"
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Quote:It can only control the people who have taken the quick route to its power - it can't control people who take the slow route, or people who have no contact with it at all.Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Which . . . I find silly for a bit. The Well is powerful enough to take over individuals across dimensions and fuel Incarnates that (as GG above claims) can fight the Hamidon to a standstill, yet it's not powerful enough to force others to do Cole's bidding. The same Well that allows Cole to give Nightstar, Maurader and others the Incarnate power to stand up to at least 12 to 16 near Incarnates at once. Ummm, lol?
Something doesn't' add up, or there is waaaaaaaay more to the story. (I pray it's the later).
Statesman, Recluse, Tyrant, Reichsman and so on all gained their full powers at once by actually drinking from the Well itself - so the Well has a hold over them because of that.
We searched for the Well with Mender Ramiel, but found it was gone - so we're not able to get our powers all at once the way the others did - we're taking another route, tapping into the Well via the shards and threads of its power that are scattered throughout the multiverse - it's a much longer process than simply taking one drink form the Well itself, but it also means that the Well can't control us. -
I think some of you are downgrading Tyrant's power a bit too much - the Hamidon only agreed to the truce because it wasn't able to defeat Tyrant - it didn't go rampaging through South America, Mexico and parts of the South, wiping out whole cities and teams of superheroes sent to stop it, and then suddenly decide to back off a bit because it had a change of heart - Tyrant forced it to agree to a truce by being too powerful for it to defeat.
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Don't forget that First Ward is just 20-25 - Vanessa doesn't die until 50 - so we don't know what happens to Katie during 25-50.
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The Avatar of the Hamidon kills Vanessa DeVore, and Desdemona uses Vanessa's mask to recover the secret she was carrying with her:
Quote:"The truth is, the Emperor never truly defeated the Hamidon. He negotiated a truce; a chance to prove humanity's worth.
Contact with Primal Earth upset the Emperor's plan. His salvation of humanity would be undone, unless he controlled Primal Earth as well.
But the prolonged war rekindled the Hamidon's hatred of humankind, and it is finishing what it began." -
Well done
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I think it might be quite quiet on the live servers this evening
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Quote:There's an on-screen icon to take you right there.Originally Posted by Neuronia
Would love to know how we access the Paragon Market interface, however.
Is there a store ingame or a slash command? Howz it all work? -
Welcome home
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Quote:Which suits me fine - I have horse-related stuff planned for after lunch tomorrow, so I'll be back in time to watch the startOriginally Posted by Benchpresser
7 pm
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Quote:What about staffs?Originally Posted by Zwillinger
You'll be able to test Street Justice, for a very limited time, once we allocate points. Time Manipulation and Beam Rifle should be available as well.
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They'd feel right at home in Praetoria
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For future issues, will there ever be fully open betas, or will the final beta phase always be for VIPs only?
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We're all VIPs right now
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You scooped my thread in GD by 1 minute
