Gemini_2099
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Yeah the thing is if you are a VIP you need to purchase GR for incarnate content. Fine!
But why should a premium player have to purchase incarnate content again if they already purchased GR? It is because they are no longer subscribed?
So you have to be subscribed and have GR purchased? Fine! Make it clear then because it clearly hasn't been made clear.
GR is an expansion, and a result you should keep what you purchased. IO's wasn't part of a paid expansion but was freely given out, and can be freely taken away.
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Quote:Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner!Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
There is no functional difference. You still need the Satellites to make use of the GPS. Ergo, you HAVE to get GR to use Incarnates. -
VIP's who have not purchased GR do not have access to incarnate content. Ouch.
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Quote:You just made his/her point.Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
You are right, you don't get it.
You had to buy the newest game EXPANSION to get access to new game mechanics. Those game mechanics were then used by a new system introduced in the next issue. Hmm? -
Quote:Not really us bubblers and ringers will invade the world if you don't watch out.Originally Posted by Kioshi
Problem is, those people are very few..
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Quote:Read the beta forums!Originally Posted by Test_Rat
Do you have a link or is the source the same origin as your detailed EA IA analysis?
Anyway, I like my Energy Assault Dom. If my use of Power Push annoys you,
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Quote:Assault Rifle?Originally Posted by Brillig
Name even one, please.
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It doesn't matter if Incarnate content was part of GR or not initially. The result is you can't access Incarnate content without GR.
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Even a VIP that has not purchased GR does not have access to Incarnate content.
GR is the gateway to Incarnate content which is why you must purchase GR for Incarnate content.
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Quote:That too.Originally Posted by Pyrox Saberdon
What if someone went out and got the City of Heroes: Architect Edition box?
This is not as gray of an area as Incarnates.
The person bought the box advertising itself as giving you AE. Once the free month runs out that person loses AE and has to buy it AGAIN from the in game store.
That is a screw job.
I don't like how the Hybrid model is set up in this game when the most proven hybrid models allow you to keep 100% of what you paid for. -
Quote:No.Originally Posted by The_Spad_EU
Well of course; the only way to make money from a F2P game is either to sell players lots of stuff or convince them to subscribe (if you offer such things). The challenge is to give them enough stuff for free that they'll want to play, but not so much that they won't see any reason to pay.
Other games that have the hybrid pay model allow players to keep 100% of what they paid for . -
Quote:This.Originally Posted by Forse
Actually, as the Dev's stated themselves that a returning customer would get everything they originally bought; then yes, the Incarnate system - if the person had unlocked the content - should remain so when they become Premium.
Now, "letting you return free" is an incredibly persuasive argument to pacify people. But it doesn't change the fact that the Dev's definition of "Everything" is pandering to the marketing departments decisions on what is the biggest draws to making someone a VIP.
If they intend to keep Incarnate content locked into VIP and premiums lose it all, then they should re-classify it as "VIP-ONLY" and make it very clear (and apologise) for the confusion to those customers that believed that they unlocked it.
Or... y'know, unlock it for all existing GR customers and stop any new Premiums getting it.
A lot of angry premium players for sure because it is very childish to deny premium players what they paid for. -
Quote:Wouldn't it be sweet if you could use free players as squires to carry around our enhancements, salvage, etc in return you train them?Originally Posted by Vox_Doom
I demand that we be allowed to use free players as mounts in compensation.
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Quote:What the? That was supposed to be my line....*Gemini 2099 cries*Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
Thanks
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I am not opposed to buffs to FF or Sonic Resonance, but to change FF because some people don't like how it plays baffles me given you can play now Time Manipulation if you don't like FF playstyle. *shrugs*
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As a customer, who is always right
I think 210 PP sounds like fair compensation.
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/Thermal is one of the most hardest secondaries (maybe even primary) to level as the goodies come late, and you have a heal that doesn't root you to work with till then. At least /Cold has something to work with until it reaches pivotal powers late in the game.
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No it really is because why would you do another hardware upgrade when one was done last week?
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210 PP sounds reasonable as compensation.
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Quote:Actually some napkin has shown the downtime has been roughly 2 days of game time, so it isn't far off honestly IMVHO.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
No that's way too much.
To fairly compensate players for downtime the devs would have to tabulate exactly how many hours the servers were down and then add up how much that time actually cost the players out of their subscription fees.
30 days = 720 hours
Dividing the hours into the monthly $15 dollar subscription fee gets you just over .02 cents an hour, and since our devs are generous they'd most likely round it up to .03 cents an hour.
So the game would have to be offline for at least 83 hours just to be equivalent to 210 PP. That would be about three and a half straight days of server downtime.
Of course all the above only applies to unscheduled downtime. They scheduled the current downtimes and told us in advance they were happening so they wouldn't be compensated for as per the EULA.
This wasn't a scheduled downtime as it was an unforeseen circumstance when they had to do more hardware upgrades and physically move the servers when they did hardware upgrades last week. -
Quote:Tell the forumites that you PVP.... that should work.Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
One of the first few threads I made when I joined the forums was asking for some system to 1. Give CoH more money, 2. Give the new guys a chance of getting the 7 (6 then) years of rewards reducing the hopelessness they would feel with iconic costume parts seemingly totally out of reach.
To say the least I got totally POUNCED and FLAMED, maybe even Nuked from orbit.
So now that this has actually come to pass, where is the outrage. So it is heresy for a guy to suggest something like this, but when it is actually implemented everyone is all alright with it? Where is the hate threads?
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Quote:I work in customer service, I know how to work that angle.Originally Posted by Blue_Mourning
Then he could ask for more pp for compensation.
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As Trip pointed out, if given enough time /Traps can fight elite bosses, and AV's, but the problem is it takes time, positioning, and planning.
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Quote:That isn't impressive.Originally Posted by Test_Rat
Look, you are heavily biased against EA for some reason.
I have two EA builds:
The currrent one which has 50%+ Defense to all but Negative (45%) and Psi (reduced a bit with 20% ranged defense and a luck). And has 117.5% global recharge (I dropped hasten once Spirtual Alpha T4 was obtained). This build can perma Double stack Energy Drain to get to or near the Incarnate softcap.
This build does not have overload, because 1) I can incarnate softcap my defense already. 2) My HP is capped due to accolades and set bonuses.
I should mention I have quite a bit of Regeneration due to set bonuses+ Perma Energize too.
My fallback build: is the same exact build as above, but with 107.5% recharge, and the inclusion of Overload ( I also have to shift from Pyre Mastery to Mu Mastery, but my theme can handle this). I have pretty damn incredible UP/Down ratio on overload and guess what? NO CRASH due to accolade powers.
I solo this stalker at +2x8 for normal play, but I can handle +4x8 no problem.
I am very happy with it.
I really hope Ice Armor works out for you, but you seem to be selling it based on what you think or feel. I have built a fully purpled out KM/IA toon during beta, and while I was quite happy with what I could do with it, there ARE major decisions that have to be made: Softcap vs Recharge bonuses for one.
I didn't have mids so I am sure I could do better, but it is extremely hard to get that magic 30 Up/90 down time on Icy Bastion.
EDIT: Oh Energy drain does sap pretty much as well as elec armor stalkers sap.... but you hate elec armor stalkers too don't you (even though they can be built to be very survivable).
/EA Brute is superior than /EA stalker now. That is why I deleted my /EA stalker and re-rolled to an IA stalker. It is unfortunate IA isn't available to Brutes. -
Quote:Actually the headstart should have started earlier, but we forgave for that transgression. But more down time? PP sounds fair as compensation....210 is reasonable.Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
This is the trap I see oh so many falling in to.
This is LIVE - no longer the Beta test. We are paying them to BETA TEST the game. They call it a "Head start" do you feel like you are getting a Head Start or do you feel like you are Beta testing?
This is terrible customer service on the par with AT&T.