Friggin_Taser

They also had CoH "Bootleg Edition" discs that were at Best Buy that gave you the entire game around I want to say issue 4 or 5. I know because Marketing sent me a bunch of them along with some awesome CoV t-shirts and capes to give out at the Connecticon anime convention.

I actually made 5 bucks buying Going Rogue. I got it during Best Buy's Cyber Monday deal for 10 bucks, so I got a month of game time while saving 5 clams. Not a bad deal and I don't begrudge people getting Praetoria this fall for free.

You know what? You are right. I am in the minority here.

I'm in the minority on these forums that realize that you, Eva, and the rest of your anti-raid crusade are just posting the exact same thing that was said anytime any change ever was added to this game. I'm in the minority of people who realize how completely narcissistic it is for the handful of you to continue to spam these boards with your views as if they are new or even warranted. I'm in the minority of people who feel sorry for you, since you can't seem to realize that you can take any one of your anti raid posts, remove the word raid, and Mad Libs a rant against any other change ever in this game.

If your majority is full of ostriches with their heads so far in the sand that they think their own personal disagreement with the game is more relevant or more important than any other issue anyone has ever had with this game and that the devs are forming a huge conspiracy to force them to *gasp* team, then I'm glad I'm not part of the petulant, clueless majority here.

If we add up all the time Eiko or Eva have posted against raiding, we would find that someone playing solo in the exact amount of time using merits and the auction house could have a fully formed incarnate by now. But it's more fun to pretend this addition to the game is the one that will TOTALLY RUIN THE GAME FOREVER and act like victims.

I thank you for your candor, but this point is where 99.9% of my problem with this play is.

It wasn't the marketing department's decision to include raids and end game. It was the player's decision when, even in CoH's beta, these things were ASKED for. REPEATEDLY. Next to power customization, crafting, flashback, and side switching (all of which we got first), it was one of the most requested things.

And no matter what you posted, it would be projected upon by the 6 or 7 anti-raid posters on this board and taken as their own. It's what they do. It's just sad that this small group of people don't realize that what they are doing is just as annoying and futile as the same amount of people constantly threadjacking and spamming the boards against crafting. And against PvP. And against Capes at 20. And against auras at 30. And against Hamidon.

It's not like there's a set quota of complaining they must do before the devs go "Wow, 7 people really don't like raids, I guess we'll just rip that out of the game entirely and waste years of development time to give them more solo story arcs they can solo in an afternoon." But that won't stop the vocal minority from trying to reach that mythical quota in their heads.

Plus there is absolutely no humor to it.

What was posted here has been said in countless other threads started by the same people responding with LOL SO FUNNY. Except I guess this is funny instead of just forum ranting because it's in the form of a play?

In order for this to be funny, there would have to be some kind of punchline here and there. The one Eiko-chan quoted doesn't cut it because, like all things in live, we differ in tastes apparently.

What the OP essentially did is throw together a bunch of conspiracy theories together and call it a day. And since a lot of people here seem to believe those conspiracy theories, they thought it was HILARIOUS. The Original Post makes the incarnate system seem like something thrown together at the last minute out of desperation instead of being something promised to us for over 5 years and in develop for almost as long. The original post also continues the trend of these anti-raid theories by making his preferred play style the assumed play style of the entire community.

That is shortsighted and ignores the 7 years of posts on this forum about how this game needs an end game and could use raids. Or the 7 years of people who quit and, upon the exiting survey, said they'd like a raiding system and an end game other than Hamidon. Or the 7 years of content that still exists for solo players with a whole system in place to make an infinite amount of new content at the drop of a hat.

But I guess since it's written as a play, we're forced to ignore reality and play by the vocal minorities beliefs here, right? That raids were forced upon the devs at the last minute because of declining sales and that there will never ever be any more solo content again ever because teaming makes people subscribe longer. And also that 9/11 was an inside job and the Illuminati created Lady Gaga as a government brainwashing tool for teenagers.

Ladies and gentlemen: the only truly funny thing in this thread.

Friggin' Venture approves.

Man, Disaster Movie said the words Iron Man! I've seen Iron Man! That was hilarious... even though the movie didn't do anything funny with Iron Man. Just because I agree with knowing that Iron Man is a thing it's HILARIOUS! COMEDY GOLD!

This thread is the Epic Movie of forum threads.

Sweet jesus, it's a Friggin' Taser!

(FOCE not included)

It definitely seems to be based on participation for me when I lead Lambdas, but in a weird kind of way. In early runs, I'd follow my tanker friend and we'd pretty much be the first two attackers on every weapon cache. I'd then have my team pass me all the pacification grenades and I'd be the one to use them when needed. On these runs, I was about 60/40 on whether I'd get a rare or a very rare. Since we've all leveled up and learned the map, I still hit most caches but we're using less grenades now, so I'm almost 100% getting rares only from it.

This is on a rad/thermal corruptor. I pretty much only use my secondary on these runs to rez someone during the first three stages.

You really are hedging your hatred against raids in such a way that, no matter what happens, you can feel like you win.

We've already seen bAss truthfully say he likes running TFs repeatedly with friends and we've already seen yourself and Venture claim he was just mindlessly grinding content. Once again, you seem to put your own opinions above anyone else's and seem to be ignoring the player base that enjoys running TFs/Trials repeatedly to help friends get XP, badges, drops, etc.

Framing this thread as your argument: your opinions that trials are boring/wrong/invalid content is more important than the players who enjoy running them or any TF repeatedly because you have already degraded what they do as a "grind." So even though you have no numbers on either side, you already assume your vocal minority of people angry at raids and anti-raid are bigger than the silent majority of people who are running them. Then you hedged your bets by saying that when that majority is bored, you get to claim most of them are sycophants for your cause even if they have no clue people like you with opinions like yours exist... because they are too busy playing the game.

You are an opinion alchemist, sir.

Well then, by all means, let's design this entire Massively Multiplayer game around your flawed definition of social.

Except this isn't a case of so be it. "So Be It" would be a person accepting that not every bit of content is for them and continuing on. "So Be It" is not launching a campaign on the forums to get a piece of content considered invalid or marked for removal because you personally don't like it.

A better term would be a pessimist. And the worst thing this game could ever do is cater entirely to a pessimist because they would never ever be happy.

So, Sam, whatever. You can't claim to not be antisocial in one breath and then openly confess to not needing friends and ranting about how having lots of friends is false or wrong in your mind the next. Because then I will no longer label you antisocial. I'll call you what you are: a pessimist trying to bring the ship down with him.

If you don't want to do raids, so be it. But look at reality, admit it's not for you, and actually go about your day. This campaign of "I don't like it so no one else should like it" is just dragging you down into the pits of unknowing self-parody.

Server hiccups and the uncertainty of the LFG queue prevent this. Most people, myself included, would rather host a raid that is full of people they have teamed with before in lieu of randoms from the LFG queue. If you just announce to enter queue, you could end up with a team of random people and the people you want to raid with being left out or put on another team.

In times like this I only think of one word: Colonel

Hint: it's because they are actually playing the game and not just turning this issue into a soapbox on the forums.

Fine Eva, I'll talk to you like a person and not the caricature you have made yourself out to be with this issue.

You say the devs have a "shut up and suck it up" attitude because they aren't talking to YOU personally this issue. What do you want them to say?

Do you want them to say "We're sorry this content doesn't appeal to you personally, so we're halting production on issue 20 and changing it to a series of story arcs?"

Do you want them to say "We're sorry you don't like raid content, here, have a free pony?"

Or are you going to look at this like a rational adult and see they already said it all in issue's past: "Every bit of content in an MMO won't appeal to everyone."

Remember when inventions came out? There was a vocal minority screaming about how they'd ruin the game. Yet we're still here so you can do the exact same thing with raids.

Remember when AE came out? With the rampant farming, there was a vocal minority screaming about how it would ruin the game. Yet we're still here so you can do the exact same thing with raids.

I can continue this with every major new system of content added to the game, Eva. You aren't a sparkly, unique snowflake just because this issue happens to be your snowflake.

Got to love the anti-raid crowd constantly quoting and "me, too-ing" every post to make it seem like there are more people in their vocal minority than there are.

Nice deflection.

Doesn't stop the fact that in every one of your posts you make some kind of hairbrained illogical conclusion that because that's how YOU play, EVERYONE plays like that.

Read back the post you quoted. You didn't say "On a team of 8, I find that I myself get to know people better." No, you posted, summed up for your raid-hating brain, "On smaller teams everyone gets to know everybody based on powersets or maybe if someone is an idiot and uses RotP as a joke. Also, grrrr hate raids, grrrr."

You are a broken record that no one really bought.

I await your deflection and then crass generalization of all players to meet your own opinions. Your posts are nothing but flashing lights.

I have never seen a flood of people using their own personal experience as the reality of all players as I have this issue.

You might feel that way on a smaller team. I've done countless teams where I couldn't tell you what power sets people have. You know why? Because I wasn't obsessed with their powers or their bios, I was too busy chatting to them and inviting them to my global channel as a friend to team with next time.

Simply judging by your condescending tone in your post, you've painted your entire argument as null and void. We get it: Raids/Trials to you are just flashing lights and blah blah blah blah. Now please stop saying your experience = all of our experience and speak ONLY for yourself.