Evil_Legacy

Uhm I put effort into it. Like I said. even with posts that dont have mistakes, they find something else. SO what is the point of trying to please these people that can never be pleased? NOW dont care about it. I'm doing worrying looking for mistakes. We all make them and if they want to act like they dont then they can act like that but we all know everyone makes mistakes. And many people make more mistakes than me. Way more. And yet, people can ignore them, but cant even mispell something as simple as per se without some grammar nazi coming along. I'm dont talking about it. I tried to bend backwards for that spelling stuff, I even used word to check mistakes but if it's one thing after another after another they continue to find, why should I put in this effort for anything if they can even show me a little common decency of fairness? Why should I show any decency at all if they cannot show me any? So now I'm at that point that I'm saying spelling mistakes and all, cant read it tough. My patience has worn out in that regards. I spell check and have to proof read official papers at work 40 hours a week, day in day out to make sure that the legal stuff and papers to higher up look as official as possible. I get paid for that. That is WORK. Here is not work, but some certain people seem be trying to make it seem as much like work as possible and guess what, they aint paying crap not even a little fairness. So you know what? I quit. I'm not letting anyone make this feel like work. I'm going write how I want make mistakes and leave them be, and format the way I see fit. If they make a deal out of it since they cant even over look "persay" and have to make a big deal out of nothing, then fine then, I'ma stoop to their low level and make a big deal about it. But I'ma not eyt goign to stoop so low that I'ma goign to go around looking only mistakes in their post like mine and ignore what they are writing. Cant yet bring myself to that low of a standard where I get my jollies, like some here, going around correcting only one person mistakes and dismisses everyone elses and to add salt to the situation. Expect me to sit there and take it. Hell no! And not all of my posts have mistakes in them, but always put more effort into it put more effort into put more effort into when people find one mistake. Why not go tell that to everyone else that make mistakes. Last I checked this was CITY OF HEROES. NOT FREAKING ENGLISH CLASS WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE PURE HYPOCRITE LIKE THEY NEVER MADE AND GRAMMAR MISTAKES IN THIER MISABLE LIVES HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ME JUST BECASUE I MISPELL THINGS. ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AND LITTLE ASK PER FREAKING SE! GOD DAMN! I SWEAR all of this over per se. I SAID I FREAKING SAW THE MISTAKE! IF YOU CANT BOTHER TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE, DONT GO OUT OF YOUR GOD DAMNED WAY TO CORRECT ME AND THINK I'll be OK WITH IT.
not yelling at you, Lucky666. I think I just had it taking this **** all of the time day and day out trying to be nice, trying to let it go, but no they wont stop. But anyways only have to put up with it for not much of a long time. Then that's it. I still wont let them ruin my day. no. They try all the tactics they want I'm going to be here until the 30th to see the game off. At first, for the community and maybe say goodbye but now it's purely for me. as it's obvious they dont give a crap about me so why give a crap about them. I put in so much effort to save the game, even convinced husband, who despises games, to put a large sum of money away just in case that what it takes. But screw that, what the hell am I saving? So people can continue to focus only on my mistakes? What sane person would do that? Not me, that money is goign to better use now. I'll just sit back and watch the game burn and watch the fireworks come NOV 30th. Where ever people like that go after that, I hope they can somehow rebuild COX or some semblence at least that means they aint on other games ruining the community.

ok I over reacted, but it's been going for so long. I cant make a post without something or someone either correcting some mistake, when they make no attempt as correcting any other mistake on the thread, saying this is stupid, that is stupid. and etc. It's always something. Just wished they just let it be sometimes. I said lets not make a big deal about the error, I acknowledged the error, it was small error. NO! they couldnt even do that. But I stand by that if that type of behavior is what this community would be like if the new COX is brought back, where you cant express or even have decent convo about ideas without "Your idea is wrong, my idea is always right." type of talk or insulting people because they dont share the same feeling or view then hell, what would be the point of saving this game? Do I really want to help and even can wish the best for a game where too many community members just plain wave either ignore the entire point of the post to point out mistakes, as if they never make mistakes? COntantly say my vies and feelings are wrong because it dont line up with their views. With all of the names I've been called here, even paranoid before, should I want to wish well this game succeed. In a crazy way that is totally illogical. It's like someone kicking you in the face everytime they see you expecting them to thanks them and then kicking you again for not thanking them for the first kick and then feel dejected and dont understand why you wont bail them out of jail. Or refuse to save them when they are hanging by a finger off a cliff. Even if they are totally nice to everyone else, I cant go by other experiences. Only my own. And it's very highly annoying to have someone correct your mistake, only your mistake and ignore others. How am I expected to take that? It's like you and coworker come in the same time and hapen to be late both for the same time and the boss asks no questions and fire you and give the other person a raise for coming in late. Most people would think that, damn, it cant because I'm late because the other guy got a raise for it and I got canned. so it has to be something else. Which is what I'm thinking when someone corrects me on the posts and usually not the same person, yet, have no record of correctign anyone else. Especially one that made the exact same mistake. They was on this post correcting that one mistake less than and hour and that other post been there more than a day and it wasnt corrected. In fact no one said a single word about the mistake in over a day. But mine, less than an hour? How am I suppose to think about it? Even when I quoted it, the same mistake that someone else made that I did, he didnt go "oh look, they mispelled per se too." Nope. First thing they type is "How is that an example of anything?" First thing they type for me? "It's 'per se'. It's from Latin." Oh so it's ok for them to mispell it but not for me. That is what I'm getting from it. If not "just me" then why wasnt they corrected or why didnt the first thing you notice was they mispelled per se?


And this is not paranoia. This IS what as decribed has happening to me alot here on this server.

I know that. But frack spelling frack mistakes frack it. No more of this. I come to realize, a little late, but better late than never, that regardless, mistakes or not, who or what not someone will ALWAYS try to start something and do their hardest to find something to start something even though they dont with ANYONE ELSE. Even with someone that made the EXACT same mistake that I did. Oh, but they willingly ignored it even after I pointed it out and willingly ignore the other thread posts. If this beef with me, them frack I beef with them. I tried to be nice. tried to be reasonable. but no more. I'm doubting this game is worth saving with a community like this. You say something that dont match their view, they on your ya case. If you feel diffrently then the way they do, they on your case. If you not in the clique and you make a mistake, they on your case. If you dont make a mistake they will find a problem to get on your case.

But either way, I'm going as buisness as usual like I always had. I rather this game go down and never come back instead of being a dictator ship of people telling you how to think what to say what to do how to feel and etc. Like some people try to make it into. And only picking certain people to point out their mistakes and ignore their "friend's" mistakes. I'm not going to let those people ruin my fun in this game and not goign to tell me how to feel, and mistakes and all I'm going to express myself until it goes under water. I hope who ever buys this game, if they buy this game, know exactly what kind of community they are getting. One that dont believe in free speech and rather point out minor mistake like persay instead of per se for only people they feel like starting trouble with and know that it will run out any new people that will try to come and get it at this rate. If this crap dont change then, even if the miracle happens, it would be nothing but a mere delay of the ineveitable as trying to get everyone to think the same usally always fail in the end. If people focus more on mere mistakes than substance then many people will stop contributing anythign useful. Why? what's the point? They are going to find something anyways as they always have.

I am determined to stay here until nov 30th and be on until the end regardless of the community and their judgemental, error correcting when they make mistakes too, intolerant of any ideas that is different from their view ways.

But luckily, I have found a more suitable community for me so no biggy. CO people on the forums are a little bit more friendly and seem to get the concept that people make grammar mistakes and dont need to always point it out.
Just as someone mentioned that we all are going to die but no need to point it out. We all make mistakes, no need to point them out. But here, enough of going by rules that suppose to apply to me but everyone flout them rules same rules they want me to abide by. Be respectful, be polite, yet they dont do that and everyone else remain silent about it. Go figure but when I address them oh all of a sudden people come out the woodworks.

Glad you how yourself to a high standard but try not to press that on other people you feel may not have your standards. That post is prime example because they made exactly the same mistake and yet you did not correct them. It seemed the subject was irrelvant to you and you bee lined straight for the mistake as you didnt mention not a single thing about the substance of the post you corrected. And even when you now know of it you still did not go over there and correct them.

Why is this even getting turned into an arguement? Ok I used persay instead of per se. Geesh please got off my tits about it. What more do you want? You win? There you have it. Not even worth argueing over really.

*guess I'm have to put my *disclaimer* one evry single thread and post that I do.*

Nope wasnt itching for an arguement but seemed you are itching for one. I dont go looking for trouble but realized in the past that even when I run from it, it wont cease until it is confronted.

basically.

I read the post. I think maybe you shouldnt take it personal as even though it isnt happily. There you go again telling someone how they suppose to feel.

But most of the replies that people have been told "why are you here" "or to leave" was not even insults in any way. If they actually insult you then yea I can see. But to you, if you kick a person for having a different view or view it as an isult because they dont share yor view then of course they might kick and may not have happy memories that you want them to have. I'm sorry no matter what you cant beat someone into haveing happy memories if they really didnt.

Yea it seems that you were demanding people to get in ivolve and kind of coming off as insulting those that didnt share your enthuse. Well glad we got that out the way that is not your intentions. I guess you are just very very passionate about this and that is good.

Wit hthe Uncle Jim thing, maybe Uncle Jim molested him or something. I think it would be us vs them if they tried to make him and brow beat him into being more enthuse about Uncle Jim making it even if he gave millions away and was the kindest person to everyone else. I dont think you get that even in this game, people have different experiences and thus difference takes on the situation. People who had positive experiences and friends and the likes probably would be more enthuse of making this game make it past nov 30th. Unfortunately, there are some people's experience that was opposite and more than likely they would be less enthused. And yes, if someone expressed how they feel about a person and someone turns and say stop being an a** or what every then that would be a direct insult to them. That is where communication of break down. One person probably dont view their comment as an insult to someone else because that is how they feel. Someone where Uncle Jim treated them like a son feel insulted because his expereince was opposite. So them they call the other person an a**, which in their head is mere returning the insult. If anything, why not try to see why they feel this way, or just leave it at "Sorry you had that experience, man. That is not how the majority of this community here operates" adnd show them how you operate. Instead of basically reinforcing their bad experience because they "insulted" your experience.

And then you end out with an insult wit hthe troll thing. That was uncalled for. Until now, I figured you'd be a very good leader for this game and efforts, but that right there took a little bit of shine off armor. I hope you succeed in what you do but I'm not falling under the type of leadership where people cant even have differing views. YOu probably wont even notice my lack of support for you as I'm only one person but you are not the only leader of tryign to save this game that I can throw my support behind. Good luck in the endeavor but remember we both are reaching for the same goal. Stop kicking people just because they isnt all the same thought process or taking it as insult because they dont share your view.
I think it is you kicking people that havent even kicked you. I have yet to see a post where it was "HAHAH I wish COH burns forever!" "Or even Good thing that COH is gone, it sucks!" Just people that said they they havent had as much a joyful experience that you had. I think it's you that is kicking some folks that is down.


The way it looks, I consider this community to be down at all. Looks like we all are up, here standign tall trying to one last major save. Are you or is it just some giant publicity stunt to further your image? Are you Emporer Cole or Stateman? In no way are those questions are to insult you but the way you react as any differing view as an insult kind of make me question your actual intentions. And the game, with you at the helms, would it be actual freedom of speech, that you come off as against, or is it think what I think and say what I want you to say, with what your posts are conveying, leadership? Actual questions no insult intended.

I dont think he was really trying to incite anything. He might even be just trying to figure out why the game means so little to him and trying to get feed back. He stated how he felt and that seemed to be the end of it and I dont think that is pathetic. I think he has every right to post how he feels even if it's opposite to yours without being called a pathetic action. Would you like someone to call your hard work and noble actions pathetic because they dont agree with it? And saying that you are doing nothing but inciting false hope because they dont agree with your view? I doubt it. I think everyone would like that same respect, at least.

Seems to me he was just sharing how he felt and his experience. As described, I dot blame him for feeling that way. Not exactly my in game experience but he is not me and experiences differ person to person. Have to remember this is still his house too and he too probably invested time and or money into the game just as much as people who are passionate about saving the game.
So in reality he is not going to their discussion forum, like someone from WoW coming here and posting crazy stuff, he is too a COX player that on a forum that is just as much as his as anyone else’s here.

This may be his way of coming to terms and whether you have high hopes that the game will pull through, or passionate about doing everything to save it, or merely sign a petition, or even don’t care. He has every right to express how he feel just as much as the hopefuls that are trying to save it have a right to express how their feel. This is all of our houses and not just people that are passionate about the game and doing rallies in real life and flooding the NCSoft servers. It's also the people that may hope and may not or don’t know what to do and don’t care's house too whether you agree with them or not.

I appreciate your efforts on trying to save this game and will continue to support you but things like this where even differing views are not seeming to be tolerated and turning into "Us vs. them", then I kind question how far do I really want to save that. I'm not even going to mention all the efforts I am making or doing as I'm doing this for publicity or such and definately dont feel like dealing with the "judgemental attitude" of some people here about my efforts and things I'm trying to make happen. This is not saying the people that do post their efforts are doing it for publicity.

If you had the OP's experience, I doubt anyone would be itching to days off work and rally and fly here and there and throw money here and there and write letters and go as far and as hard as some players here who's experience in game probably was more positive.

"A divided house falls, but that doesnt mean everyone in the house has to be the exact same." We all can still be together in trying to reach the same goal without squabbling at each other without judging each other to see who is more dedicated and trying to show who cares more or dont care. I really think out of all things that is wrong time and or place for is that petty stuff. But focusing on stuff that really dont matter with statements and or insinuationa like "I care more than you." "You should care more." "If you dont care just leave." "Why are you here?". "the way I feel is right. The way you feel is wrong." If people make this into a civil war both sides will eventually lose. Do we want to save this game or not? Let people express themselves as if you would want them to allow you to express themselves. If they are doing nothing that also means they are not trying to stop your efforts. Let them do nothing. Remeber we are known as a good community, lets stop trying to earn the title that is befitting of the stereotypical WoW's community. If we are a truely a friendly welcoming community lets at least try to act like it at least in the last days. That would be the respectful thing to do even at a funeral or visiting one that is on life support arguing over who cares about dying Uncle Jim more and being pissed because the guy Uncle Jim treated like crap shows up and didnt bring a whole forrest of flowers or someone who shows they care in another way or even mentions that maybe we should start at least getting the estate in order even though the doc already said that Uncle Jim may not make it.

basically.

"Why So Serious?"- The Joker

Funny how you totally skip the fact that I said I hope it works too. And you saying coming into a room full of family and stuff as if I'm not part of this game to begin with. I've been here since I6, not as long as some beta people but longer enough to have invested a lot of time into this game just as most people have.

I'm not making it my job to protect anyone. People express their view on it and opinions and I do the same.

In family death situation, yes already been in that situation plenty of times. In fact it has been more times than I want to admit. And yes at one point there had to be a discussion of pulling the plug or continue life support. A very important decision had to be made during that time and regardless the fact was that the person may not pull through but there is a slim chance that they would. A choice had to be made but it couldn’t have been made on idealist views.

I'm not trying to crush anyone's hope and as I also said people are entitled to view only the positive side. That is fine, but at the same time I should then be entitled to have my view which may not be as high in the sky enough for some people and that should be fine too. If they can express how they feel, then so can I. If there is no such thing as freedom of expression, then it shouldn’t only apply to me. I'm not going around saying good riddance and telling everyone they are stupid for being attached to game and laughing at them. I'm just saying the possibilities just as they are adamant on pointing out and in some cases only focusing on the slim possibilities and even within the high hope people, there are variance of hope. Thus everyone won’t feel the exact same way and express in the exact same way and say the exact same thing i the exact same way in the exact same manner. And they should be able to do it in their own way without being jumped on because it may be or may not be too hopeful or not hopeful enough.

And either way there will be no "i told you so" or an apology as I do hope that this game makes it but it may not make it.

funny pic.

Nemesis might be the true CEO of NCSoft.

Nice video. What is the name of the song in it? I want it on my ipod.

Sounds like a bright idea and well thought out. But who is Naratu, Naratoe, or what ever other way it has been written out?

O.O


Now it's a little bit clearer.

dang. That sucks.

I dont recall you posting a citation of where I said the glass is half empty.
But that is immaterial really.

What is important is that you have your view and way of dealing with the situation and I have my view and way of dealing with the situation.

As I said before there is nothign to argue about and I'm not going to get into an arguement about it, over the way I view it compared to your views. I respect your view and hope you respect mine.

That is all I have to say on the subject.

And yet you insist presenting it in a view that the glass is overflowing but OK, Fair enough, as I did not mean to come off as the glass is half full or half empty either way it equates that the glass is only filled halfway there. At the same token as some people want to remain hopeful, that is good. At the same time all I ask and the other people that may have a more realistic view on the situation is not be attacked everytime someone mentions that things wont work out. AKA, dont shove that stuff down our throats and at least I wont even comment on the other end of the equation. Or we can just agree to disagree in the way that you people stop attacking realistic and acting like being realistic about the situation is stupid then maybe the realistic people will stop coming off as having blind endless hope is stupid. You have your way of looking at it, I have mine. There is nothing to argue about here. It is just different points of view but remember as people get pissed when someone mention that the end might just be near, people on the other side gets pissed when they are attacked for saying so.

In the end, it doesnt help the case either way. Right now, lets stop focusing on "Us vs them" or "share my view my way and your way is stupid" talks that usually go on and focus on merely what can we do to save this game. If this is the way this community operates is berates any opinion that dont fit their view then maybe this game isnt worth saving at all. I think we can get on a better understanding than "black and white views" and just allow people to view it how ever they view it. If it looks like Doom! to one, then fro mtheir point of view it might be Doom!. And that is not any more wrong of a view than saying that Someone WILL save this game and by Nov 31st, everyone will be logged on." And everything in between.

From some posts, yes, I do get that impression as the mere mention of things may not work out seems to get some people worked up. Nothing wrong with hoping for the best and it's good to hope for the best. Even I hope things work out for the better. But you are not doing anyone any service by ignoring the fact that it may not work out and calling anything that don’t fit your "hope" as pessimistic or not of good service to everyone else. You kind of making sound like anyone that don’t have your level of hope or even utters anything that is not perceived by you as deep hope for some magic miracle to all of a sudden happen are stupid.

And even if this game does survive, the question is in what form. It might just be a shadow of its former self. It might be exactly the way it is now with not much changed. It might buy the farm.

Me personally I rather have a doctor that tells me the truth of both ends. If a treatment only had 5% success, I don’t want it trumped up as success is guaranteed. If there is a chance that I may not make it through, I rather know that too. And of course I would hope I pull through and I would be part of that 5% that makes it but best believe I'm sure as hell is going to have my finance and estate in order for the possibility that I don’t. Instead of pretending that 5% means 100% chance of making it and getting on anyone case that merely mentions the fact that I may not make it.

Or with the lottery, there is slim chance of winning but I'm not going to change my lifestyle and buy a bunch of stuff based on that slim chance and hope that I will win that 100 million dollars. I might hit but there is a strong possibility that I might not hit and that's not being negative or pessimistic. That is being realistic.

Yes.

I wasnt being a sourpuss. She mentioned CPR and I just mentioned that even then sometimes things dont work out as planned. I'm not sure if the end of this game and the the hope, which is good, should of been compared to an actual life and death situation in the first place but since it was, I just went along.

Never said we are at that point yet. But I'm not going to pretend that it's not a possibility that everything may not go as planned.

As I mentioned on another thread, it is business as usual for me. I was enjoying the game before the announcement and will continue to do so afterwards.


Sorry that I didn’t get all rosy and cheery enough for you and my faith in miracles don’t live up to your standards but I didn’t change before the announcement and I'm sure as hell aint going to change afterwards. Would you rather I say "Oh yeah I want angels to rush forth from the sky riding unicorns and save COX from the clutches of the evil corporation while all the players merrily cheered and lived happily ever after." Is that rosy enough for you? Does that meet your standards?

Why are you here?