Eva Destruction

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post

    Accursed chibis! Why must you make evil so cute?

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    Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
    Azuria's in Atlas Park. For her to lose something from Galaxy City would be quite a feat.
    Yes, I know she's in Atlas Park. She's just that good.
  2. Ok, so you are allowed to make broad sweeping generalizations about people of a certain race needing to buy better-fitting pants (incidentally, where I live it's mostly the white guys' pants falling off) but you're offended by a stupid S&M joke?

    Now what I want to know is, why is a certain synonym for the rear end filtered, both in-game and on the forums, when the Ghost of Scrapyard runs around spamming it all over Sharkhead? And why are Hitler and Stalin filtered but Satan is not? It gets even funnier when you start inadvertently swearing in leet and say something like "Everybody was Kung <bleep> fighting" or "We're fighting level <bleep> and 46s."

    I don't know if they're filtered in game, but AE filters a few racial slurs that haven't been commonly used as such in decades. That was even before they broke the filter.

    (Fix the AE filter)
  3. The power to rain some doom down upon the doomed heads of our doomed enemies. That's what Judgement is for.

    We also need the power to smite someone who has ticked us off. I am hoping we get a really nasty single-target attack in a future slot.
  4. Eva Destruction

    Spoilers dammit!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quasadu View Post
    Everyone dies.

    In some cases, twice.
    And in one case, a whole lot of times.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    Honestly, my biggest regret is that the devs promised you could use AE as a leveling path. In retrospect, they really shouldn't have. If someone wants to use AE to farm for Inf? BFD! But the whole 1-50 in a couple hours thing. While interesting, is ultimately detrimental to the game as a whole.
    At least one person has documented their journey from 1-50 playing arcs that aren't farms. My 1-50 in AE toon is level 44, and would be higher if I wasn't easily distracted by shiny objects and determined to roll ALL the tickets and get maximum inf out of the results.

    It is a viable means of levelling. Certainly not the fastest if you're not farming, and a bit slower than standard content, but having new content to level with is a draw for some people. From level 1-5 for me it's either AE or street sweeping, and has been since AE was introduced. Lowbie content gets very repetitive even for someone like me who doesn't alt nearly as much as some people, and considering how many posts we've seen over the years in the AE forums asking for arcs that are appropriate for lowbies, I don't think I'm the only person using it to bypass standard lowbie content.
  6. I think they might regret creating villains. One of the ATs is constantly causing problems and requires special attention, one is barely used, and one is beloved of farmers. That leaves two ATs that are generally nicely balanced and people don't either complain about or make other ATs obsolete. Villains splits the playerbase. It requires twice as much content, some of which some players are never going to see. Every time co-op content is introduced, villain players complain. There are more arcs redside that people dislike than there are arcs they like.

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    Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5 View Post
    I agree with what Eva said, AE isn't something you can just add-in and forget but sadly the devs seem to have stopped doing much with it at all (even base building is getting more love these days), unless time spent fixing exploits counts (and it might).
    It doesn't. It causes collateral damage to non-exploitative, non-farm arcs that is never addressed or even acknowledged by the dev team. The one time it was addressed the fix came in six months after the fact, hidden under a whole pile of new shinies. Most people didn't even know it was there.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg View Post
    Positron and Ghost Widow enter a non-aggression pact while everyone comes together to deal with extra-dimensional threats like first the Praetorians and then Rularuu.
    While this would be very cool, it would require a lot of redside to be rewritten. Namely, anything with Longbow in it, and a lot of the missions where you go invade Paragon City. Of course, as a villain you can just ignore any agreements they come to and rob Paragon City banks anyway, but some of the missions have you invading Paragon at Arachnos's behest. And they'd have to either kick out Longbow or make them officially a rogue army, at which point they would have to redo any heroic missions that involve them.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by twistedlogic77 View Post
    Oh thats so cute! I had no idea.
    If by "cute" you mean "gives her the opportunity to totally take advantage of him," then yes. She's evil.

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    Originally Posted by Lycantropus View Post
    the 35+ Cimeroran Sister Airlia arc, which has certain implications regarding Ghost Widow as well.
    She also appears in Deadalus's arc in Cimerora. You fight her.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
    So, who's supposed to be our Superman/Thor/Captain America now?

    We have an "Ultimate Evil" in Recluse, but we'll be losing his foil.

    Who's supposed to fill that void?

    Us?
    Um, yes.

    Frankly, Recluse hasn't been "the Ultimate Evil" for many issues now. We were the ones who discovered the truth about the Rikti and stopped the second war, not Statesman. We are the ones going into Praetoria, not Statesman. Even when Recluse was up to his evil schemes, who stopped him, and who stood around on a boat?

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    I'm also afraid that this is just to make a void for Emperor Cole to fill when Praetoria goes belly-up and he and his fellow refugees need somewhere to stay while his biggest failure tears up his home. So now we'll be going from working with a guy who genuinely was trying to make things better to a true jerk who may or may not be trying to conquer this world "for his people."
    Hamidon will suddenly acquire a Scottish accent and tell Cole to get in his belly. Any Primal Earther who tries to stop Cole from getting eaten can go get eaten too, because they are too dumb to live. Anyone who lets him into Primal Earth can also go get eaten by Hamidon.

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    Originally Posted by TroyHickman View Post
    Actually, Breakneck died because the Circle of Thorns are evil and powerful. If the Phalanx hadn't got involved, never existed, or instead decided that day to watch Jersey Shore, Cyrus Thompson would still be just as dead, along with probably most of the rest of the world
    Dude, face it, you made the Freedom Phalanx look like a bunch of noobs. City's premiere superteam indeed. They didn't even think to pack breakfrees.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel View Post
    Also, here's a bit of lore I would like to know (not that it matters now) but previously, in the Galaxy City MAGI room there was a pile of bones on a pedestal apparently belonging to the villainess named "Ghost Widow", but Sciorocco's patron arc has her remains in the hands of Arachnos.

    Seriously, what's up with that?
    Azuria lost them. Duh.

    If you're a Ghost Widow fan I'd also suggest playing through Scirocco's patron arcs, since he sends you to talk to her a few times and he has a thing for her.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain-Electric View Post
    Brain dead locusts might be good for quick infusions of cash (I don't know), but like your description implies (locusts), they are not sustainable, you can't retain them. If given everything they wanted, many of them would have left soon thereafter anyway, quickly becoming bored with it. Those people are a good target audience for the Xbox, not a subscription based game like City of Heroes. Positron never had any inclination to invest in that crowd (using AE). Maybe because they're a horrible investment.
    The problem with a system like AE, is that you can't just throw it in game and call it done. Especially since it wasn't done when it launched. A new feature will always be wildly popular at first but then will start bleeding users as people get bored or move on to the next new thing, and with AE the lack of users bleeds more users. It requires constant investment to slow the bleed, or to keep people coming back. It certainly isn't fire and forget and move on to the new shiny, and with the current shiny-chasing mentality around here, I'd imagine it is considered a bad investment for that reason, even if farmers were taken completely out of the equation.

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    Originally Posted by Tyger View Post
    It's the middle ground sweet spot of content for me. Engaging enough to be fun (if somewhat teeth-gnashing on a solo-unfriendly AT) but not as invasive as the newer Atlas Park/Mercy Island stuff which makes major assumptions on your character being human, vulnerable, stupid and the most tolerant being in the world for not saying 'pancake this pancake' and walking out the moment wannabes 'let you join them'.
    I'm hoping they'll regret the design of those arcs once they realize people are playing them through once and then going back to the Hollows with subsequent alts (those that aren't farming the crap out of DFB, that is) but I doubt it.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
    Judging from a lot of the characters out there lacking biographies or descriptions and the fanfiction of ALL the different people who've kicked Statesman's and Recluse's butts, the same can be said about a lot of player characters, too.
    It's not fanfiction. I have kicked Recluse and Statesman's butts. Granted, I had to have the Jade Spider help me with States, stupid Unstoppable. That said, I don't expect you or anyone else to care about my characters. If I wanted you to care I'd put them into an AE arc and let you decide for yourself whether or not you care, assuming that the default answer is "no" and I have to work really hard to make you care.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
    1) What does the chest in SSA 1 in the villain side have to do with any of this? It talked about the Cult of Eyes...
    The Rulu-Shin.

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    2) What about the vision at the end of SSA 1? It talks about Positron looking grim shaking a ghostly woman's hand... At first we thought this was Numina, maybe its the deceased daughter of Statesman?
    It takes place in Cimerora, so it's likely Deadalus and Sister Airlia.

    I think Statesman's powers will go back to the puddle. Giving them to the player would be unbalanced, there is nothing to suggest Incarnate power can be passed on to your descendants or Riktified buddies, and if an NPC steals his powers it'll really tick off villains....although lately the SSAs have been moving right back into the same "I don't see what's in it for me" territory most villainous content resides in.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperOz View Post
    First of all, apologies for snippage. Second of all, I hoped I had clarified that I felt the 'jerk' portrayal of Statesman isn't an accurate one, and I hold to that. As I said to Melancton, I couldn't reconcile the various portrayals of his personality and when I decided to make a choice on what I felt was a more rounded portrayal, I went with the more positive one. Is it selective reading? Yes. Do I feel I chose the better writing for the character? Also yes.
    Admittedly, it is also selective reading on the part of the Statesman haters. It is a knee-jerk reaction to being told "this person is better than everyone else. You will respect and love him. You know he is awesome because everyone else loves him, except his enemies, and they don't count because they're evil and they only hate him because he's so awesome." The thing is, people have that same knee-jerk reaction every time they are told something like that. Then they start flinging around the term Mary Sue and wishing the character would undergo total existence failure. The harder you try to get people to like the character, the more they resist. Good writers realize that.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Melancton View Post
    Fortunately, you have only one writer to deal with.
    Yes, but my writer sometimes drinks and has been known to play under the influence. Which leads to such out-of-character moments as "Eva Destruction tried to solo Nemesis? on an AR Blaster back in i5."

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    Couldn't the Devs just kill the Sentient Insane Possessing Well of Furies instead? The writing has been consistently bad since the Incarnate System debuted.
    But if you killed it all the Praetorians would be downgraded to My First Solo AV status again and you wouldn't need a swarm of your friends to beat them up so you can go on TV and tell them Cole is a jerk....which I think my Brute already tried to do when I ran the Warden path.

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    Originally Posted by Lewq View Post
    As the Apex and Tin Mage TF's have shown us, if they do attack, our hero allies cannot stand up against the incarnate boosted Praetorians. Yet Statesman still refuses to let the Phalanx or their allies tap that power, even in the face of such evidence.
    That sounds eerily like what another Marcus Cole did....
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    Or how Statesman death would shift the balance of power on Primal Earth; without Statesman there to stop him, Recluse may decide to make his move while he perceives weakness in the hero's side.
    Nah, he's too busy doing co-op content like the rest of us villains. And if he's not, why the hell am I saving Nerva from Gunslinger Incarnate and his Invisible Friends for him, when I could be running around being naughty while the heroes aren't looking?
  15. Eva Destruction

    Spoilers dammit!

    Game of Thrones spoilers:

    He dies.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid View Post
    Remember, an attack on an Arbiter is considered an attack on Arachnos itself which will lead to the player being tracked down and utterly destroyed! Of course, some of my heroes have beaten up LOTS of arbiters and Arachnos ain't done squat about it. Pansies.
    Unless you're a Rogue and can run away to Paragon City.

    Or you've done Barracuda's train wreck and are an Arbiter yourself.

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    Originally Posted by Bright View Post
    After all, if Daos was careless enough to find himself assassinated in some subtle, yet stylish way he obviously wasn't fit to continue in his current capacity anyway, right?
    Yeah, you'd think so, wouldn't you?
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5 View Post
    I like the idea on its face, but I'd fear we'd end up with a ton more entries and not enough time to play them; that I think is what we need more of.
    That would be the beauty of it; you could play the arcs year-round also, instead of trying to cram as many plays as possible into a few weeks right before the holidays.

    Anywho, congratulations to the winners.
  18. At low levels I'll usually run an AE arc or two to get to level 5. I didn't like the old heroside starter content, I was sick of the redside starter content, and I don't like the new starter content. Sometimes I'll do the Hollows. Villains run papers to get every mayhem for the accolade but my heroes usually don't bother.

    After that I'll run any contact I haven't done in a while, with a few tips and AE arcs thrown in here and there. I always do Tina, Maria, Mender Lazarus, and any contacts that have me fighting a lot of Rikti after level 35. My villains run the patron arc, usually Ghost Widow's, even if they plan on using a hero APP.
  19. Statesman not only deserves to be killed off, his alternates do too. Retroactively.

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    Originally Posted by Venture View Post
    I wasn't moved. I facepalmed my way all through that story. Breakneck died because the Freedumb (sic) Phalanx was bloody incompetent.
    So do we. I guess that's why he resonated with people.

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    Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel View Post
    I, unfortunately, have to agree with GG here, Oedipus. you do understand that when a character gets killed off for good, they're likely to become martyred after their death and remembered as far greater than they were in life.

    If you felt Statesman was shoved down your throat before, then once he's gone there won't be a single blueside mission that won't reference him, a big statue of him will be erected in Atlas park, Redside will mention him if only to say "there's no one standing in our way now that Statesman's gone!"
    Undoubtedly. But just because they will do it doesn't mean they should.

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    Originally Posted by SuperOz View Post
    Based on that logic alone, it comes off as a cheap gimmick to kill him off, then. Every MMO has its powerful NPC's. It gives you something to aspire to. I don't want the players to be the premiere heroes, because quite frankly not many of us know or want to emulate the values involved.
    I know how to not be a self-righteous jerk. I also know not to drop alien motherships onto populated areas. Me: 2, Statesman: 0.

    If a significant number of players don't want to emulate the values he represents, then that also says something about those values, doesn't it? You can't dictate morality to your playerbase. We saw how well that turned out with Going Rogue.

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    Originally Posted by SuperOz View Post
    As to being told how we feel, do you feel that's good storytelling? Good storytelling engenders those emotions in me. I don't by right as being a player react 'as written'. Bad writing tries to inform your character, good writing encourages you.
    This is the tactic that will be used to "force" us to react the way they want us to react to Statesman's death. Despite all the "I'm glad he's gone" and "I don't care" on the forums, our characters will be shocked and saddened. Even the ones who, in-character, would be either glad he's gone or wouldn't care.

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    Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
    This means that Xanatos is now the most powerful hero in the city. Awesome.
    No me.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ElementalFury View Post
    My blaster would portal into Mother Mayhem's hospitial (like we do 30 times in SAs) and vaporize her head thus preventing the entire MoM trial like our heroes should have in the first place.
    If some of my villains had their way the entire TPN trial wouldn't have happened either, since Primal Earth's PR would be so horrible by now that even Praetorian Television can't convince the people of Praetoria that we're not all out to brutally and messily slaughter every single one of them for being so stupid.

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    Originally Posted by El__D View Post
    Paragon City does welcome aliens. The Kheldians are more than proof of that. What they don't welcome are alien invaders and extra-dimensional threats (a la the Rikti). And no one is 'subjected' to the Vanguard; you don't have to work with them if you don't want to. I have no issues on how they treat the invasion force that almost turned the Earth into a smouldering crater.
    The Vanguard also help out and negotiate with Rikti who are willing to work with them rather than bomb the crap out of us.
  21. Some of my villains would have killed Hardcase and continued helping Vivacious Verandi trash St. Martial for the lulz. Others would have just killed Hardcase. One or two might have settled for just beating him up. Especially now that I know I can.

    My Elec/Elec Brute, who is a nihilist, would do everything she could to keep the truth from getting out in the RWZ arcs.

    Eva Destruction would have killed, or at least tried to kill Countess Crey when I fought her. Other vigilante-aligned characters would kill, or try to kill certain other villains, either because they consider them too heinous to be allowed to live (my Scrapper who grew up on Striga and despises the Council and 5th Column would make a serious attempt at killing every one of their AVs) or because they've broken out of the Zig one too many times.

    Edit: My old villain main would probably give Ghost Widow her body back.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperOz View Post
    And to the rest of you discussing it...shouldn't this be your actual concern? I don't have a lot of faith in a storytelling team who can't at least try to maintain an air of mystery about it.
    I don't have any faith in the storytelling team at all, so I'm not concerned. The entire "Who Will Die" thing was a cheap publicity gimmick to begin with, are you really surprised they have to resort to more publicity gimmicks to keep people's interest? At this point actually paying attention to new lore developments is like reading a Twilight parody, realizing you're actually reading Twilight, and deciding to treat it as a parody anyway.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Megajoule View Post
    So, I'm guessing that Recluse is going to be spending a lot of time in his tower, alone, moping and/or eating Hagen Daz.
    And Scirocco will be spending a lot of time wondering where his Joy Division records went.

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    Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing View Post
    It is what it is. But given this, why don't we...

    [SPOILER]...Go seek out as many different races as we possibly can, and recruit all of their WELLS so they can fight the Battalion simultaneously? It seems so darn obvious. Which means we probably won't do it.[/SPOILER]
    We won't do it because it makes no sense....all dimensions share one puddle but different races have their own? So why do squids have to get their powers from the crazy human one, why not get powers from the maybe less crazy squid one? And, you know, what about non-human characters? Is there a robot well? A catgirl well? Do the Rikti still count as [SPOILER] or do they get their own well? It's stupid.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    Well she's his granddaughter and his sidekick. Maybe. But then, isn't she a bit more willing to get her hands dirty unlike every member of the FP except for Manticore?
    No. She gets Longbow to do her dirty work for her, then denies that it is actually dirty.

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    Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing View Post
    [SPOILERS]The Wells are actually living beings that can be enslaved or killed. Ours is a "he". And every different alien race has it's own "well". So, if the source of Statesman's power can be killed, it stands to reason he can, too.
    [/SPOILERS]
    Wow, that's pretty stupid.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by JKPhage View Post
    You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm REALLY hoping that by the end of this arc we see Recluse joining forces with whoever is taking on the big bad under the premise of "Marcus deserved better than to die to the likes of YOU." Not in the "I really cared about him all along" way, that'd be stupid, more in the fashion of "Only I deserved to kill him".
    Trying to kill him is Recluse's way of showing he cares. Sending a bunch of other villains to do it is his way of trying to hide just how much he cares.

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    IThat just screams that he'll be brought back within the last two parts somehow, or that we'll meet a replacement scrappy to shove into his place.
    We've already met her. She has problems figuring out pants.
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    2) Ms. Liberty will somehow inherit his power/become an incarnate via the Liberty Belt and/or Excalibur and become Stateswoman/Liberty 1/Something else cheesy and step up to fill his shoes, giving BABs the AP trainer spot and netting her a MUCH needed makeover.
    And start World War III within a week.

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    Originally Posted by Liquid View Post
    I can see why you think that, but is that a part of her personality or just a consequence of her being subservient to Recluse? Since she is bound to Arachnos, wouldn't she want to ensure that it prospers?
    Besides, who else would? Scirocco is locked in his room listening to Disintegration on repeat, and the other two are idiots.

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    Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
    Does the tribute to Statesman mean we have to go without capes again?
    No, because the whole no capes thing was Statesman's idea and he won't be around to make the suggestion this time.

    My prediction for part 6: The funeral. Recluse cries. Ms. Liberty commits war crimes. Captain Hotpants is recruited into the Freedom Phalanx. Everyone is sad. Even if you're not sad, your dialogue says you are.

    Part 7: Statesman is resurrected.