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It happens in Action Comics when they were doing weekly anthology (i think that's what it is called) issues. Not sure if she said he should do that or if it was oprah but he did appear on an Oprah style show and he said he doesn't feel fear and that he is like a cop...which got a negative reaction due to the perspective that Hal isn't risking his life due to the ring.

Waller is a Justice League and apparently Superman villain type...I've yet to see her in the 7 years of Superman comics I've read so far though >.>


For those of you who don't know there are 3 GL movie prequel comics...

Tomar-Re which has him chasing down a bad guy and fighting him on the planet the movie opens to.

Kilowog which focuses on how legendary various characters are, establishes some of the "new" recruits, but more so focuses on a psychic telling the guardians something bad is going to happen

Abin Sur which focuses on Abin Sur arresting a criminal for transporting stuff through the Sol System...and he makes a mistake by leaving the cargo behind which crashes to Earth...The rest of this focuses on a young Amanda Waller fighting the machine virus and her winning, and Abin sur being impressed.

That was both stories...

Emerald Dawn takes place after all that stuff...

Emerald Dawn's "I'm such a mess up" thing is actually the DUI I was talking about. He drinks and gets into a car accident... and then despite having the ring fesses up to it and serves his time.


Secret Origin cuts out Legion...and adds other stuff that happens that very well would have worked with Emerald Dawn and i view the two stories as both canon, just slightly focusing on different parts of what is happening.



Oh btw... The Power Ring actually restructures Hal's brain we find out in one story which is which is the explanation as to why he is such a great GL. Abin tells the ring in such a way as to force it to find a successor among humans, it can't find one good enough in enough time so it creates one that is perfect in Hal Jordan...

The character as portrayed on screen which is not Hal Jordan would act the way he acted at that second...

Hal Jordan wouldn't have though. He would have went looking for answers.

That's the thing. Hal ISN'T a screw up or a jackass.

He's angry at the world due to his father's death and that pisses off his older brother. To get away from that he joins the military. His contracts a fatal illness and he want's to go see her before she dies. The military won't allow it so he knock's his commanding officer on his *** and is kicked out, but makes it home too late. So he is angry at Feris and angry at himself when the story starts and he has a "people who get near me die" thing so he's a loner. This leads him to be semi-suicidal and bent on proving his worth, not to others, but to himself... Everyone else considers him the perfect soldier/pilot that is not only willing to do risky things but able to do them.

The company he works for is bought by Ferris and everyone quits due to not liking Ferris. He is asked to come work by Carol because she knows he is the best. They get into fights because Ferris is struggling to maintain the company and Hal tends to blow up/crash experimental planes.

if I remember right there is something about DUIs in there too, but that is hardly a "screw up" but rather what an average pilot is like so that also is not a "screw up" in that sense.

His jackassy appearance has more to do with circumstance than who he is which is coupled with a self hatred and determined focus to do what he wants.

I liked that too... too bad it lasted all of 3 minutes or less.

When he first got the right.

After he became GL he lost a lot of his anger as it was, but he is often angry at other things, like Guardians being complete tools, Sinestro enslaving his planet, the destruction of his home city etc...



As said in the other thread... they got virtually everything wrong... and it's mediocre at best and all the changes they made are bad changes.

Which incidentally could be traced to one source in particular... Peter Parker and MJ and how Stan Lee created the character...basically to show that heroes have to deal with problems too which gave stories like How do you deal with a villain dating your guardian or deal with your best friend being a villain or etc... it seems to have escalated to the point everyone wants to show that and forget that some things do work and not every moment of a hero's life has to be tragic... Especially since too much tragedy or too much comedy dulls the care for those events because it's not surprising or shocking, or important but rather annoying, predictable, and boring....

So wait... could all modern comic's problems be said to be a problem set in motion by SpiderMan 40 some years ago with the creation of Peter Parker and the death of Gwen Stacy? A death that Stan Leee disagrees with, but thought it was ok cuz MJ is such a great character?

It's not demotion/promotion thing...
Barbara left the mantle of Batgirl. She grew out of it and became stronger character before she was paralysed.

Cassandra left because she felt she didn't belong and had to find herself. If she came back and became Batgirl again she'd be saying she has found herself and no longer needs to run from the family that she found.

Stephanie worked hard to earn the role in universe. She wants to be Batgirl not because of the title, but because of acceptance of her being part of the family. To take that away is shows a callousness of several characters that just doesn't exist... Batman only has that persona to the mass public, if he was callous then he wouldn't be doing what he is. Would Stephanie dropping the mantle regress her character? No, in fact it would grow her character in many ways due to the crap that would happen to get her to do it. What it means though is that Stephanie has something heinous happen to her (which poofing out of existence I consider heinous) or Barbara Gordon stops acting like Barbara Gordon and that character regresses... or both which is most likely the case.



DC is asking us to trust them... them being Jim Lee, Dan Didio, Marv Wolfman, Grant Morrison, and Geoff Johns... All names that one looks at (save for Didio) and is like woo they are all pretty good at this whole thing... I doubt they'll mess it up.

But let's be honest... in recent years these are the guys that have been messing up whether it has been year after year of "OMG ****'s gonna change" events or developing a MMORPG universe...or just decisions about titles such as Young Justice and the direction of characters that are just terrible.

The only one I'd say hasn't messed up is Grant Morrison, but apparently tons of people hate his run on Batman and they want to pretty much erase it. He's doing what they want to do while maintaining canon and working with it.

And really, after the interview on GL:EK with Johns and Didio who brag about needing to change Hal's origins to bring him back... come on... seriously? Why would you trust them? Sure they brought a few good elements out and are generally good at one shot story arcs with directives, but generally it seems the more free reign you give these guys the worse they are.... it really isn't them who has made the characters or stories worthwhile but rather the little guys that are being over shadowed and tossed out now.

No.

For a very brief time and hardly ever shown Superboy and Batgirl had a relationship. She would from time to time sneak out and visit him which took a few days so it was hardly brought up in the Batgirl comics while I don't know how much or if it was ever brought up in Superboy comics.

No it's not. There are better candidates to take up the mantle or retain it and not move the character back... Like Cassie Cain rebecoming Batgirl would be a step forward for her... Stephanie staying Batgirl would be her moving forward... Barbara would be her moving backwards....

Read more BoP... She has gained some movement back already due to various things.