Durakken

by the way... you mean daft, not deft, unless you're speaking middle english now.

Are you sure about that?

It's called triage... We have several problems. These problems need immediate attention, these problems are too far gone to matter whether I treat them or not, these problems are fine for now.

It could be that Vanguard didn't view that ship as a "This needs immediate attention" situation until they started trying to open a portal or distributing their tech.

You're just proving my point further so I don't care.


Anyways... Technobot... you think people are going to care about those? They barely had enough willpower to say something this time.

I didn't say they were wrong. I'm saying you're wrong in your usage as far as I can find. There is in fact only 1 reference to anything like what you said and I've never heard any of the people I know, who are british, use such a phrase.

Regardless, the point still remains that it is rather vapid to try to explain yourself knowing that the phrase you are explaining with is even less known and used, even if it is right, which it likely is not.

Do you really want me to point out how many differences there are considering it is largely just a woman with long white hair in primarily black clothes with gothic makeup and no other similarities actually exist.

Yeah... see, you used overture wrong. And then you tried to use slang which apparently doesn't exist or you got wrong and actually meant something else. What you mean is "Look seven ways for sunday" or "look nine ways at thrice" which if I take that you meant those when you said Overture you're still using the word wrong, but even worse is what you are saying and trying to do which is explain something by using slang that you know isn't used in america, nor commonly even in Britain, and getting that wrong as well.

Which all goes to show what i said to be fairly true, but I would add in a few more negative things, but I won't...cuz I'm nice.

You are taking the word vapid as meaning boring which is synonymous with the word dull, but vapid is usually used as pertaining to mental dullness as in a a vapid blonde... or lacking in mental sharpness. ie dull or vapid.

Overture indicates an introduction of some sort and your usage of the word makes no sense in any fashion.

That word... I don't think it means what you think it means...

I've heard of that before... I always find it a good thing that things my brain spit out has been thought up before. Thanks

Personally, I find you largely vapid, but that's hardly the worst thing you could be. I could also list a few people that have worst things to be >.> but I also think we all have our own roles and that you should just be yourself... I've been in quite a few social circumstances on both sides of the fence at one time or another and i've found that it really doesn't matter because people are going to hate/love you regardless of how you act and there will always be people on both sides of the fence.

Candi is awesome... !

Whack is a slang term and is one of a long line of words that mean roughly the same thing but don't really have a good definition... like "that's lame" "that's whack" "that sucks" so it is correct, though i'm not sure if there is a missing jump from one meaning to the other.


Also

Die - As in a thing you roll.

It is... but you really have to look at the core of how government came to be...

Through Aggression. A guy takes command by way of power over someone else, or a group of others. This group takes over another group which then is subjugated to the previous tier. In this formulation each level has codes of interactions with each member of the same level which are different than the code that governs the interaction of the higher or lower group... you're thinking this isn't ethical, but it is. Basically we are interacting based on the greatest happiness which is you get to live provided you serve me because you living make you happy and you serving me makes me happy.

Through Protection. Someone is attacking. We need to band together to keep that person from harming us. In this formulation everyone plays an equal role so we see no stratification. You protect me from that way and i'll protect you. from this way. This creates a reciprocation and we now do what's best for the whole. ie I'm happy because i'm alive and you're happy because you're alive.


The tricky part is that groups tend to merge and mix and switch so basically the stratification of the aggressive government has the equality of each person at each level. Today we stratify differently and we recognize groups within stratus that are more or less favored... and if you imagine them as individuals rather than groups you see that politics is just ethics between groups and/or codified ethics.

The reason that government is so bad today is because we're so far removed from the protection/aggression forms that a lot of stuff gets wonky and also because people and groups have agendas that are hidden that don't understand that mutual progress results in greater mutual happiness and/or they don't care and just want power.

the latter group is really the most dangerous people because they don't really care as long as people bow to them which results in them corrupting and destroying the foundations because all they want is something that will never happen for them because their priorities is the power and not the responsibility that comes with it.

Well the thing is that people don't seem to have a good symbolic understanding of what the net is. I personally think if we look at it from a philosophical point of view the net is more or less a 2nd space which we haven't so much created as much as we have gained new senses and abilities for. Especially when you look at things like the idea of virtual reality.

That being the case it is painfully obvious that a governing body is necessary as there must be with all interactions between sentient beings... ie government is an extension of morality and ethics which are simply a method for trying to live together in groups while creating the most happiness, more or less.

The primary problem comes from Anarchy and Archaic Government trying to exist side by side and rule over the same people promulgating different ideals and life styles. You can't exactly oppress people while at the same time they are experiencing absolute freedom. So the only option is for the archaic Governments is to restrict freedoms in the anarchic space as much as possible through means in the physical space. ie. Freedom of speech must be silenced via limiting the ability to coordinate, congregate, and converse... It's pretty easy to shut people down when noone knows that is what you're doing and likewise it is easy to keep people from revolting when the methods in which they can communicate become corrupted so as to not allow them to do so openly.

Of course this assumes a hostile physical space government, which one can easily do when you look at what the secondary result of the the Cyber Space anarchy is... which is a lack of borders and a way for the masses to communicate not only across boreders but to many more people. This allows for ideas to develop faster and people to recognize corruption by way of getting more of the picture and taking in more perspectives, but also removing the borders that our physical selves create as well... A person is a person on the internet and they aren't japanese, mexican, british, french, etc... so we have single world anarchy which seeps into the physical world where people start to realize "even though there is a physical border and we have different governments...it's the same stuff" which then ferments revolution, violent or peaceful, which spells the end of the archaic governments because they simply do not work in a world where cyber space exists... so in a way SOPA, PIPA, OPEN, the DMCA, are all more or less weapons that are being targeted at the is Cyber Space in a war that is happening but it's a quiet war due to our limited senses on the net.

There is really only 1 way to make both sides happy and that is a government body in or for cyberspace that understands the world that it is in and for. Whether that is by the coming together of the archaic governments or formulated by the citizens only time will tell...

And what i mean by understanding could be taken a lot of place, but as pertaining to SOPA what one must understand is that the modern world dictates that product that can be infinitely copied has no intrinsic value and once something is on the internet it belongs to the public as there is no other way for the net to work.

It took me a few minutes to come up with the idea of Nerds being Natives ^.^ I never would pushed the analogy to that level normally but it works well enough. You should gib me moneys for coming up with that.

Well if I really wanted to push it to that extent one might say that the nerds that were first adopters of the internet pre whenever mainstream knowledge of the internet occurred...

Cyberspace as created
Nerds came adopted and started using it (becoming like the natives)
Mainstream america discovered it and started colonizing (becoming colonists)
Expansion lead to rogue groups forming (Old west Cowboys)
US tries to govern colonists but finding it only pisses them off or that their governing is incompetent (making them like the british)

The next step if for a revolution to occur that sets up a government to handle the new world...

Though the cowboys if the analogy was perfect would come after the revolution, but I'm sure there were groups before the revolution that were around... can't think of names or what not but i'm sure they were there.

As far as destruction of culture... Well that's more or less seen in the net speak we see today. Newb, N00b, troll, smileys... they've been coopted by the masses but they also been greatly destroyed because most people don't use nor understand the difference between a Newb and N00b and most use the word Troll wrong... and smileys are now largely hated if they aren't graphical, defeating their purpose, plus there is the whole usage of LOL, LMAO, IMO, etc. One might consider this somewhat the same as the "fake Indians" where they look like they came from nerds, but more than likely are misunderstood or bastardized versions or made up because it looks like something a nerd would do almost like a mockery.