Cowman

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    Still I consider this a yet another symptom of how many people in the industry don't really "get" Wonder Woman and I'm taking this as yet another sign that the hopes of getting a good Wonder Woman TV show or movie continues to be fairly remote.
    But how does it affect her more than any other superhero used to shill merch?
  2. I don't know.

    The trouble is, even if the movie is competant, I'm not sure I'll be able to enjoy it. I can accept changes to continuity in comic book movies, but at this point the X-Men movie continuity is such a flippin' mess..... I'm just not sure I can get past it.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf View Post
    It doesn't seem to be a joke and is gathering traction. It may be worth it to wheel it out on Netflix. I wouldn't bother lugging it through the mail. I would tread lightly on any expectations for it to not fall flat.
    You son of a *****.
  4. "Hi. I'm a crimefighter by night and a public playboy by day. Needless to say, things can get pretty hectic sometimes. So when I've got to hide scrapes and bruises from the papparazzi cameras, I need make-up I can trust."
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chrysame View Post
    Bats, GL and Supes are on every product imaginable so why can't Wondie be on a limited edition line of makeup?
    Batman Lipgloss!!

    "I am VENGEANCE! I am the NIGHT!! I PROTECT WHILE MOISTURIZING!!!"
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    It just seems unfortunate somehow that the only thing they thought Wonder Woman was good for was for selling makeup. Did they really have to jump to that stereotypical combination? There's nothing "wrong" with it, but it doesn't exactly feel "right" either.
    But then that begs the question of, if the make-up company wants to make a superhero themed line, who SHOULD they have used?

    I suppose someone like Emma Frost might make more sense from a character standpoint, but she has nowhere near the name recognition of Wonder Woman.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    Maybe if we knew for a fact that this was going to lead directly towards generating enough hype for Wonder Woman to get her a new show/movie then I wouldn't be so critical. I'd just rather have a new Wonder Woman story than wear her lipstick or eye shadow.
    I doubt the make-up line will have any bearing on Wonder Woman's movie career one way or the other. Products so far removed from the comic really never do.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    To me the idea of peddling Wonder Woman makeup could be taken as being as misguided as the NRA trying to convince PETA that hunting is harmless by promoting a line of rifles for pre-teens to go out to shoot their favorite bunnies and squirrels.
    Leaving out whether or not I think Wonder Woman make-up is a problem or not; why is it such an insult to the character? Heroes have been used to sell everything from underwear, to shampoo, to snack cakes. Should we call foul because Batman would OBVIOUSLY never eat Hostess Fruit Pies?

    I guess I kinda see the point; a female superhero is selling make-up supplies. But I'm not sure how that automatically makes her pandering to men. I'm sure if asked, the majority of women would say they wear make-up mainly because they like how it makes them look. And this is coming from someone who looks at the "Before" and "After" pictures in make-up ads and more often than not, prefers the former.

    Wonder Woman has sold plenty of non-stereotypical products in her time. I don't see how make-up is any more insulting to the character than Hostess Fruit Pies. Heck, I think the Batman squirt gun is more insulting than this.

  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    given the fact she's so often portrayed as thinking of men as pets who can talk.
    She is?

    I thought that was just in that horrible All-Star Batman series.
  9. Cowman

    Young Justice!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
    However this tv show takes place on Earth 16 and is more a Teen Titans series cashing in on the love of the Young Justice name.

    I miss you Slobo.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by White Hot Flash View Post
    What you're describing is the Sean Connery version, however, we also got the Roger Moore version, which I hope never gets imitated again.
    Yeah, I'll admit I've mainly stuck to Connery's movies. I've watched some Moore ones and a Timothy Dalton one, but not enough to remember them like I do Sean Connery's. James Bond always seemed so unique to me, but Daniel Craig's version just strikes me as very cookie-cutter and safe. Maybe not in terms of the Bond character, but definitely in terms of Hollywood protagonists.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_Squid View Post
    I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but does anyone else miss the more campy, goofy James Bond movies?
    YEEESSS!!!


    I swear, society has made me HATE the words "gritty" and "realistic" something fierce.

    **** it, WHY would I want a "realistic" Bond? Isn't that what frickin' Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer are for? I always liked Bond cause he was a smooth talking kind of spy; the dashing rogue archetype. He was one of those rare protagonists who seemed to be really enjoying himself. Something I always find refreshing since so many are obsessed with revenge, haunted by their past, angsting over their life, or any combination of the former.

    But no, we couldn't take the James Bond character and ACTUALLY try and breath some new life into the series while still maintaining the legacy and feel of the character.

    Naw, we'll just turn him into Jason Bourne. Those movies made a lot of money, right? Let's just do that and throw on the usual buzzwords; "gritty and realistic".






    Gag me with a ****ing spoon.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lastjustice View Post
    Oh no it looks someone just Smershed all over this thread heh.
    Most likely some dame. They're always makin' a mess of things.

    Am I right, fellas?
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mothers_Love View Post
    First off, Parker is intelligent... but he is no Stark-level genius innovator, so no, I don't subscribe to that as a plausible idea
    I always took that as one of the angsty parts of Spiderman. He actually was smart enough to be a great scientist or talented enough to be a great photographer, but was so obsessed with his responsibility as Spiderman that he never pursued anything else.

    Also, having to buy the stuff to make his own web fluid was a great aspect to Peter's "everyman" hero archetype. But then I get a bit defensive whenever someone pulls out the argument of "oh, that's too silly for movies". That's the kinda reasoning that led to us almost having a Superman movie where he doesn't fly and wears a light-up costume.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MisterTorgo View Post
    there is no way Max is "disappearing" from a chair in the middle of a group of bad guys like the way he did or no way The Cape can "reappear" to a skyscraper roof top without powers?
    Movie serial killers can do it. Why not a hero?
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
    Calling him a pansy or anything along those lines is calling him feminine.
    Well, when I call someone a pansy, I'm specifically calling them a flower.

    And then I call into question they're ability to perform photosynthesis.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luminara View Post
    i buy surplus military gear to use.

    Note to self: don't attend Luminara's barbeques.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by premonitions View Post
    it'll be equal when every male character is represented the same as every female character, *** and package first...
    Like this!

    Hawt!!
  18. ..........



    People.





    In spandex.





    Punching Nazis.




    Cyborgs.



    Zombies.



    Brains in robot suits.



    What is so complicated about this concept?
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
    Sexism against men is only used for those who choose not to meet the male ideal. Those who do? They basically get a free pass to discriminate against men who show anything determined to be 'feminine' traits. They get to discriminate against women who do not fulfill their vision of 'feminine' traits.
    Pffft, yer just talkin' like a broad now.

    Git me a beer, ya Mary.

    *burp*
    *spit*
  20. A bit busy for my tastes. Hard to believe that it's home-made. Of course the first three movies had that problem too, so that's not a huge deal.

    It's good enough not to actively put me off, but yeah.... it DOES smack of trying too hard.
  21. Cowman

    Gotham High

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Thunder Knight View Post
    This, on the other hand, looks like a complete genre-shift, from superheroics to high school comedy, only with Batman villains randomly shoehorned into the stereotypical high school roles.
    I still see no problem with this.


    I say to keep going with the idea. Gimme a sitcom starring Wolverine trying to live in the same house with Sabretooth, 'Odd Couple' style. With Deadpool as the wacky neighbor and Mystique as the love interest for the boys to fight over.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    I think there are plenty of writers out there who aren't hypocrites in this sense. Bendis certainly isn't in his mainstream comics, and I get the feeling that since Kirkman's Invincible is playing with the stereotypes of comics, the designs of those characters reflect that. Ellis also seems interested in subverting that sexism vibe in the things he's created, notably The Authority where no one is overtly sexualized and he even has two openly gay characters.

    ................





    I just wanna watch brightly colored heroes punching cyborg-zombie Nazis in the face. When did my comics become so complicated?
  23. Cowman

    Gotham High

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    I didn't think it would be goofy per se. But I do figure it would of had some goofiness to it. Does that make sense?
    The concept has some inherent goofiness (though most comic books do as well), but the Adam West show was more what I was referring to.

    To explain myself better, those who can watch and enjoy goofy Batman would be more inclined to enjoy high school Batman. (with whatever levels of goofiness, or lack there of, that he brings)
  24. Cowman

    Gotham High

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    Hmmm...I think it could totally work, but people would have to see it as an alternate universe, fun show, rather than "OMG! You totally changed Batman!"
    People who can enjoy the Adam West series for what it was probably would've been into it.

    People who don't like a goofy Batman probably wouldn't.