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But how does it affect her more than any other superhero used to shill merch?
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I don't know.
The trouble is, even if the movie is competant, I'm not sure I'll be able to enjoy it. I can accept changes to continuity in comic book movies, but at this point the X-Men movie continuity is such a flippin' mess..... I'm just not sure I can get past it. -
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"Hi. I'm a crimefighter by night and a public playboy by day. Needless to say, things can get pretty hectic sometimes. So when I've got to hide scrapes and bruises from the papparazzi cameras, I need make-up I can trust."
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Quote:But then that begs the question of, if the make-up company wants to make a superhero themed line, who SHOULD they have used?It just seems unfortunate somehow that the only thing they thought Wonder Woman was good for was for selling makeup. Did they really have to jump to that stereotypical combination? There's nothing "wrong" with it, but it doesn't exactly feel "right" either.
I suppose someone like Emma Frost might make more sense from a character standpoint, but she has nowhere near the name recognition of Wonder Woman.
I doubt the make-up line will have any bearing on Wonder Woman's movie career one way or the other. Products so far removed from the comic really never do. -
Quote:Leaving out whether or not I think Wonder Woman make-up is a problem or not; why is it such an insult to the character? Heroes have been used to sell everything from underwear, to shampoo, to snack cakes. Should we call foul because Batman would OBVIOUSLY never eat Hostess Fruit Pies?To me the idea of peddling Wonder Woman makeup could be taken as being as misguided as the NRA trying to convince PETA that hunting is harmless by promoting a line of rifles for pre-teens to go out to shoot their favorite bunnies and squirrels.
I guess I kinda see the point; a female superhero is selling make-up supplies. But I'm not sure how that automatically makes her pandering to men. I'm sure if asked, the majority of women would say they wear make-up mainly because they like how it makes them look. And this is coming from someone who looks at the "Before" and "After" pictures in make-up ads and more often than not, prefers the former.
Wonder Woman has sold plenty of non-stereotypical products in her time. I don't see how make-up is any more insulting to the character than Hostess Fruit Pies. Heck, I think the Batman squirt gun is more insulting than this.
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Yeah, I'll admit I've mainly stuck to Connery's movies. I've watched some Moore ones and a Timothy Dalton one, but not enough to remember them like I do Sean Connery's. James Bond always seemed so unique to me, but Daniel Craig's version just strikes me as very cookie-cutter and safe. Maybe not in terms of the Bond character, but definitely in terms of Hollywood protagonists.
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Quote:YEEESSS!!!I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but does anyone else miss the more campy, goofy James Bond movies?
I swear, society has made me HATE the words "gritty" and "realistic" something fierce.
**** it, WHY would I want a "realistic" Bond? Isn't that what frickin' Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer are for? I always liked Bond cause he was a smooth talking kind of spy; the dashing rogue archetype. He was one of those rare protagonists who seemed to be really enjoying himself. Something I always find refreshing since so many are obsessed with revenge, haunted by their past, angsting over their life, or any combination of the former.
But no, we couldn't take the James Bond character and ACTUALLY try and breath some new life into the series while still maintaining the legacy and feel of the character.
Naw, we'll just turn him into Jason Bourne. Those movies made a lot of money, right? Let's just do that and throw on the usual buzzwords; "gritty and realistic".
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Quote:I always took that as one of the angsty parts of Spiderman. He actually was smart enough to be a great scientist or talented enough to be a great photographer, but was so obsessed with his responsibility as Spiderman that he never pursued anything else.First off, Parker is intelligent... but he is no Stark-level genius innovator, so no, I don't subscribe to that as a plausible idea
Also, having to buy the stuff to make his own web fluid was a great aspect to Peter's "everyman" hero archetype. But then I get a bit defensive whenever someone pulls out the argument of "oh, that's too silly for movies". That's the kinda reasoning that led to us almost having a Superman movie where he doesn't fly and wears a light-up costume. -
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People.
In spandex.
Punching Nazis.
Cyborgs.
Zombies.
Brains in robot suits.
What is so complicated about this concept? -
Quote:Pffft, yer just talkin' like a broad now.Sexism against men is only used for those who choose not to meet the male ideal. Those who do? They basically get a free pass to discriminate against men who show anything determined to be 'feminine' traits. They get to discriminate against women who do not fulfill their vision of 'feminine' traits.
Git me a beer, ya Mary.
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A bit busy for my tastes. Hard to believe that it's home-made. Of course the first three movies had that problem too, so that's not a huge deal.
It's good enough not to actively put me off, but yeah.... it DOES smack of trying too hard. -
Quote:I still see no problem with this.This, on the other hand, looks like a complete genre-shift, from superheroics to high school comedy, only with Batman villains randomly shoehorned into the stereotypical high school roles.
I say to keep going with the idea. Gimme a sitcom starring Wolverine trying to live in the same house with Sabretooth, 'Odd Couple' style. With Deadpool as the wacky neighbor and Mystique as the love interest for the boys to fight over. -
Quote:I think there are plenty of writers out there who aren't hypocrites in this sense. Bendis certainly isn't in his mainstream comics, and I get the feeling that since Kirkman's Invincible is playing with the stereotypes of comics, the designs of those characters reflect that. Ellis also seems interested in subverting that sexism vibe in the things he's created, notably The Authority where no one is overtly sexualized and he even has two openly gay characters.
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I just wanna watch brightly colored heroes punching cyborg-zombie Nazis in the face. When did my comics become so complicated? -
Quote:The concept has some inherent goofiness (though most comic books do as well), but the Adam West show was more what I was referring to.I didn't think it would be goofy per se. But I do figure it would of had some goofiness to it. Does that make sense?
To explain myself better, those who can watch and enjoy goofy Batman would be more inclined to enjoy high school Batman. (with whatever levels of goofiness, or lack there of, that he brings) -
Quote:People who can enjoy the Adam West series for what it was probably would've been into it.Hmmm...I think it could totally work, but people would have to see it as an alternate universe, fun show, rather than "OMG! You totally changed Batman!"
People who don't like a goofy Batman probably wouldn't.