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Quote:The phase period was added for two kinds of pvpers. The first is stand still pvper. If you were always moving even a tp foed as would not kill you unless you were at low health already. The other was the refuse to team pvper, who honestly most of the pvp changes sem to have been made more. A good kin, and there used to be lots of kins around pre changes, made tp foe 100% irrelevant. Now you tell me how this change was not a dumbing down.
How does adding a very brief phase dumb things down for good players?
Quote:Although at this point perhaps we should get Mac or Silit in here
Please, contact mac and find out who helped him get into pvp. I am sure your findings will surprise you at this point. I didn't argue that tp foe took skill. Hell it even takes the same awesome skill now. My point was it took very little to counter it, but even with that it was to hard for the masses to deal with and therefor dumbed down. -
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Quote:TPfoe still works. The TP'ed victim has about a second of phase but you can still manage an attack even an AS in that window. I would argue TP foe requires more skill to sucessfully pull off now than it ever did. The only ones that CAN pull off an attack now ARE the good players.
Use your environment, kid.
Explaining tp foe to me of all people is pretty awesome, srsly. git wormhold sun. -
Another vote for pain dom + damage dealer. Even a good melee with taunt would work. Pain dom may be the most under estimated set in the game, ever.
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That arch/mm blaster built right could wreck some face as well.
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Tp foe onto trip mines was about as cheesy as tp foe > as. Though to be honest if you followed the first rule of pvp and just kept moving it was of little consequence. Sadly though they do not adjust pvp for the good players.
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Wb max.
Nice troller MM. That hold is nutz. -
Quote:There are tons of facts in my reply. That's the difference between knowing what you are talking about and not.
I made that post because it was based on the OP post. Not one from you, Conflict. But thanks for disecting my post on YOUR views and not facts.
Quote:How PvP keeps the bills paid?
Because its part of the game. And quite a few people play because of the pvp only. And even more enjoy both sides and it adds to their game experience.
Quote:? In comparison, do a search while in game and see how many people are in a zone, then look at RV, SC, or any of the others
In all fairness this is more stuff you shouldn't say without knowing what you are talking about. Go to a pvp zone and count the people, then do a /whoall. I bet the numbers are very different. The reason, a great many of pvpers play on hide. Its one of the reasons something asked for in the big list was a display of the true number of people in zone so people didn't always think it was empty.
Quote:And it's not all about RP'ing either
That comment was about AP specifically. And if you think AP on every server is not the busiest zone in general you are lying to yourself. And if you think its not mostly about people hanging out rping you are once again lying to yourself.
Quote:I can very esily get a -kb recipe but it does nothing to being debuffed, held, or flattened by an "uber" toon.
Debuffs are not nearly as nasty anymore. This again shows your lack of understanding of pvp. The only real threat is large numbers of people attacking you and heavy damage spam. Also some more info for you lots of "uber" toons are played by bad players and pretty easy to kill. Even this watered down version of pvp skill and practice matter more than build.
Quote:Yes, it's about having fun, i agree but noone looks to go to a pvp zone to make multiple trips to the hospital or being ganked (which is what i see mostly in my experience anyway).
You sound like you have the soul of a fite clubber. This is exactly what pvper expect when they go to a zone. Have you considered breaking into pvp more slowly using the arena system. Maybe fight some friends and hone your skills. As far as the ganking thing goes thats how zones work. More than iekly one side will have the numbers. If you stay in zone long enough the numbers will swing and you will be on the oter side of it. Its very helpful to play on both sides of it to keep your perspective in check. I have never once in all my time of pvping talked or thought of making someones pvp experience unenjoyably. I have however thought about killing them and being better than them. If you didn't want to die by a player attack or if it makes your game unenjoyably most definitely pvp is not for you. You will die, even if you are the better player on the better built toon sometimes you will die. Even when you are better all around and have the numbers you will sometimes die, maybe even repeatedly. **** happens, try not to take it so serious. The only 'serious' pvp was on test and its long gone now, zones have always been about lulz and hanging out. Stop taking each death to heart you lose nothing by it and can only learn from each experience.
Quote:I'm not a pvp hater, but a realist.
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Quote:I think pvp recipes should be common if pvp is to get any better. Having a pvp recipe drop less frequent than purps cant be good for getting people more into pvp.
If i'm not mistaken, wiki says some pvp recipes drop in pve. Well, i've gotten 6-7 purps this week and alot of other stuff and no pvp recipes. If it only drops in pvp, i think the drop rate should be pretty high due to the lack of people in pvp zones.
I personally don't pvp, but if i did, i'd want to be able to have an opportunity to get them to drop.
All we really need is zones filled with pvpers standing in large groups like pve. Then make aoes actually hit hard in pvp again and we can farm them like purples. Until then the drop will of course seem low to anything that drops in pve.
The last line about you not pvping but chiming in on a pvp topic kinda made me chuckle a little, just saying. -
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What issue was pvp intro'd?
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Quote:How many bills got paid BEFORE pvp was introduced?
Quote:I see many more faces in PvE content than when i go to RV. I've NEVER seen 200 people in RV.
When lvl 1s can hang out and rp in pvp zones I will consider this comparison until then I will let the 40+ that show in Freedom RV speak for itself. Yes more people pve and pvp is a very small group, doesn't mean they are lesser people.
Quote:Normal content is fun when you get a few people that know how to play and run through a toon.
Quote:There are MANY types of toons to create and if they are played and not PL'D to 50, then alot of fun can be had.
Quote:Some may live for PvP but not everyone does. There is no way to play everything possible in this game in a weekend to theose posters.
Quote:I've went in pvp zones a few times but without a billion dollar build, you can't just go in and enjoy yourself on a SO toon.
Quote:While i'm not saying a SO build should be able to hang with one IO'd with purps, not everyone likes to take the time(or may not play enough to have the inf needed) to build their toons to a perfect PvP build.
You do not need a multi billion dollar build to enjoy or even be successful. You need some basic investments and a little know how and practice. I have plenty of toons I pvp with half done builds or less than optimal. They are all enjoyable.
Quote:Not everyone can play enough to afford the pieces to create a pvp build,
Quote:so they stick with their SO's and enjoy the other part of the game.
Honestly like I have already said a few kb ios pretty much make any toon able to be usable in pvp. This are not multi million dollar ios and take little effort to acquire or a very small bit of influence.
I am unsure why you even felt the need to come post in the pvp section as completely anti pvp as you come across. I will however say that passing the kind of judgment on a part of the game you obviously play very little kinda makes you seem like an ***. An unintelligent one at that. -
Definitely going to want to reroll
. I would recommend looking into doing rad/ but fire and sonic are fine choices as well.
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Read and learn. I dug it up awhile back and there is a lot of good stuff in here.
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In pre i13 pvp immobiles >>>>>>>>> holds. You could burn a tray of breakfrees so fast it was scary. The only thing that negated controls in zones was a solid well played buffer. To suggest that a single breakfree negated control sets is a little over the line. If your point of view was true I doubt we would have gotten the new system. Though I am far from saying we should ahve gotten it anyways. Most of the bad pvper never brought much less used breakfrees and it seems like the one of the main goals of the changes was to get away from needing to rely on inspirations at all. Sadly all they did was change the inspires we carried.
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Quote:It wasn't a personal attack, please learn what a personal attack is before you falsely accuse someone of it.
The personal attacks are getting old.
Quote:On a team build PB goes a long way in making sure those stuns and sleeps stick. You can laugh all you want about control. I apologies if you don't see the benefit of sirens song proced with fortunatas placate. That's your problem.
Quote:I apologize if I promote the use of inspiration and don't fiteclub. Could the build use more mez protection? Sure, but i'm taking into consideration this is a team build so a good portion of his mez protection will be coming from teammates. Might as well focus on HP, recovery, KB prot and regen.
Not having a real source of +perception on a pvp toon is a huge mistake. team build or not. You didn't even sneak the +perc io in. Your really need tactics or fa + the perc io to be of max effectiveness in pvp.
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Quote:You should probably stop posting pvp advice. I mean it.
With the new mez rules you really don't need the status protection. Carry BFs if you're worried.
Also pb does almost nothing for cold debuffs. It doesn't effect -rech and the only thing you would need that much -def on is sr which you pretty much can't debuff anyways.
Carry bfs, wow, just wow.
Edit: slotting phase is a waste. Lol siren's song. Regen tissue is a waste. Needs more kb protection. You may post the worst pvp builds of anyone who thinks they are being helpful. -
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I get about 1 a day average. Sadly they are all mostly fury of the glad dam/rech and glad armor end/rech. I would like to say this is an over exageration but I have over 10 of each now
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Americans invented and perfected emo. True story.
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Wasted way to much time in game today and Monday is my busiest day of the week. I will poke at this when I get home tomorrow.
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There was a second one I saw ther last night. As well as a traps defender.
As solo said medicine and cold?! And don't you have a deva proc in CB as well? The build seems a bit odd. -
Fire is still the best. People just need to relearn how to play them and forget blaze is even in their tray. I purpled/pvpoed my rad em on test out during beta. Its a notch behind my psi/em and even my psi/dev for me. I could see a rad/dev being a decent zone toon but if I was to roll a new blaster for all zones and arena it would be fire/em.