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Propel will be your main source of attack, and frustratiom such a long animation time for such a resisted damage type is a little silly in my eyes.

Ah shuck you and gat did all the work i just kept those pesky stalkers at bay

The V stalker was probably Valhart, a damn fine stalker and one of my many arch-nemisisesies.
I wonder if i'll be able to make one of these pvp evenings I'm sure I could drop by

you'd be too bust making scrappers to notice even if he did return kaya

IM not sure but I think there is an accuracy cap, thou dont quote me on that, and dont ask me what it is, also factor in additioanl bubble, i mean to m's get access to dispersion field? cryolite armor? forcefield drones? and isnt there an inherent +def bonus to pvp zones?

Landing in the middle of a group of heroes ontop of the globe in warburg, turning on force bubble, heroes get sent flying, I proclaim over broadcast
"The world is mine"
Its a kinda "you gotta be there" moment, but it made me chuckle.

Merry Christmas to everyone on union (even the incredible pyro) from your heavyweight champions the Fusion Stalking Allstars.

I teamed with aero alot back in the badly spelled days and I'm confident enough to say if he's left its for a good reason, and if he doesnt want to reveal that again I'm sure theres a good reason for that to.
Good luck finding a new home little blaster, god speed!

Drop a message to the FSA for the next one only one of us knew this was even on and the rest only found out when he came and told us we lost, to defiant!!

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What's with the lack of MS paint?

Oh and Cherry I have a Paladin but abbandoned it.

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He your wiser then you appear then chives hehe.
I have so far abandoned a rogue in the late 20's, mage in the mid 30's and hunter in the mid 20's.
Oh and the druid in the 40's hehe

What is it with CoH refuge's and druids
Could be worse you could all be paladins.
(P.S druids are not a bad thing i have one somewhere in the 40's myself )

Personally I'd like to put in a vote for Forcefields as a secondary, I have a gravity/forcefield controller and it's by far the most fun character I've had, and the bubbles make a huge difference in PVP from PFF's protection when things go nasty, force bubble for keeping people away and possibly most important dipersion field = hold protection, that works!, pre epics.
In pvp a few tricks to, excellent ranged (force bolt, force bomb) and melee (repulsion field) detogglers
An "unbreakfreeable" hold (for now) in detention field and an anti stalker weapon in repulsion field.

I never got to face crater everytime I entered the zone with him in he vanished to the next one
Did get to see Rockjaw face plant twice walking into drones when we had him in the team.
Therefor scrapwhateveryourcalled > Crater < Rockjaw < Drones

Indeed my sings have turned on me before to, It took quite alot to confuse em, i think it was 2 or 3 confuses normally, and 4 or 5 with tactics running.
They are resistant to controlling powers, but not immune i believe.

I was there as a defender (Cherry Fusion) the whole time and I gotta say I saw some great work going by all AT's, but even thou the defender were out numbered by every other AT I have no doubt they are partially reponsible for the heroes success I saw debuffs and bubbles and heals (oh my!) flying in every direction superb work.

Just a couple of points unrelated to the rad/rad discussion to save anyone else entering the topic and becoming confused.
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Scrappers can't use FA in the current pvp zones (and aren't ranged except for spines


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I dont recall mentioning ranged scrapper attacks, i only recall mentioning scrappers in relation to focused accuracy, and since the original topic didn’t specify only pvp in the current zones would be considered I mentioned it since it can, and is quite often, used in the arena for pvp which amazing as it may seem some people still use.
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there's no sleep in ill

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Last I checked blind was a dual hold/sleep effect again it may have changed but correct me if im wrong.
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nor in kin

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I never implied there was a sleep in kin, I mentioned it in reference to AM no longer being "perma" and thus the susceptibility to endurance draining effects in kinetics,
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A fire/ss tank isn't ranged except for hurl.

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Again Im sure I never mentioned ranged tankers but correct me if im wrong i think i said raged referring to rage, the /ss power that raises accuracy.

And to answer your question, again.
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how does not using RI and EF make you better than using it ?

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Simply because I "grew up" with pvp in the days when debuffs suppressed travel speed, endurance was a rare commodity, teleport was the travel power for stone tanks and people with a night crawler fixation, and leadership was only for the person with one spare pool space to fill, the majority of ranged attackers I fought knew this was the case and so simply either ran away to drop debuffs ( even slowed a lot of them could move faster then I could with suppression active) went invisible or simple aim+build up and blapped me, so I changed my style of play to fight on there terms, sure I couldn’t damage them as quickly as they can damage me, but I could heal, they could not, and they were more likely to stick around and try and kill me if they thought they had a chance, a debuff would “scare them off” so I would wait till they got low enough on health, whilst keeping myself not quite on full health but not quite in the red just enough to make them think they were making a dent, and when things looked about right, once they were low enough on endurance I would let off Empulse drain and toggle drop em, stop em using any travel powers to escape (no endurance) which would also hold them, at which point I would let off a snipe and a cosmic burst and as many neutron bolts as I could.
That is one of the ways I found I could fight well enough against ranged attackers without using debuffs, there is always more then one way to approach a fight.

Minor adjustment to the Fusion Stalking Allstars a bad experience in warburg today has slightly soured my enjoyment of PVP so the FSA will be attending without the fusion part.
Good Luck Heroes

Cough

I think i'll make this my last post on the subject.
I haven’t at any point for me said my play style is better then anyone else I have only stated it has worked best for me compared to the many others ways I have tried, my build has never been a pvp build it was built before pvp was implemented it just happened to function quite well for me in pvp.
It doesn’t feature tactics, or teleport, or combat jumping or any of the powers you’ve mentioned while I can see how they would be useful and result in a different play style to the one I've mentioned they are again still easily defeated, for example AM is no longer permanent and acrobatics I believe offers no resistance to sleep, so throw in an illusion kinetics controller and your going nowhere mister, a fully raged fire tank, a scrapper with focused accuracy, a blaster with aim or build up, all the RI's and EF's in the world arent going to save you.
There are many ways to play a rad in pvp, I have answered the posts original question by providing MY opinion and experience in the field of pvp, one on one against various AT’s and in a team in the S4 competition not at any point claiming it to be the ten commandments of defender pvp.

I'll try and stop by with a blaster.

I always went with NB and not X-ray, xray has a slightly higher defence debuff I believe but a slightly longer activation/animation time.

The Fusion Stalking Allstars + a few suprise guest heroes, will be there for the heroes! for the glory! for sunburst! and for the love of [insert diety of choice] I gotta respec!

The majority of the foes of faced predict ill chase them and do something about it, slows from ice powers, imobs from spines, countless -fly's.
There are many situations that could come up, some you could chase, some you cant, it all depends on the person your facing and how your built as such ive just presented my version of how I've found it plays best for me.

Personally I found i never had to worry about dropping someone in 0 - 4 seconds, and i couldnt if i tried on my regular cherry build. (only 3 attacks, nb, cb and pv) thou that build has seen me throu gotta be approaching 100 fights or more and I have lost only enough to count on both hands, the majority of those to controllers or ice blappers (you know who you are).
I have to mention thou my fighting came mostly at the time when everyone believed all defenders were healers and coulnt beat a hellion in the arena if said hellion had just done 10 rounds with hami, I like to think I've helped a little to change that view I cant count how many times ive been told after a fight by a surprised scrapper "wow how the hell did i loose im so rolling a rad/rad now"

In team pvp ive lost maybe 20% of the time, but won close to 80%, mostly down to some really really good team mates.
Ive found that a build that can last works best for my play style rather then one that can kill someone in under so many seconds.
I have experimented with heavily attack focused rad builds on test and by record stands at winning in just a little over 20 seconds against a regen and somewhere around 30 for a fire tank such builds are often useless against other at’s or in pvp and I’ve never changed my build for pvp other that slot useage I havent respected since before the arena’s arrived my builds a solo play pve build (with it I have soloed monsters and even av's, well av really it was battle maiden and the fight took 20 minutes),that just happens to work quite well in the arena.

Any ranged attacker that’s stupid enough to stick around once they are debuffed deserves to get beaten, the good ones I’ve fought know its time to get out of there and drop that debuff somehow.
But again as I’ve said this is all in my experience and suited to the way I prefer to play.
Oh and because I like to nitpick to, DA stupidly low energy resistance was also good prey for my rad/rad build.

P.S My build has the psi epic and always has, for the ranged hold and the stupidly over powered and soon to be "fixed" telekinsisisisis (i never know when to stop spelling that)

As I said in my post, but it seems it wasnt clear enough, in my experience cosmic burst slotted for dis works best in teams there will be other people there to deal damage and the difference between stunning an empath whoes out of breakfrees for 6 seconds instead of 2 is quite large, solo it should be slotted damage.

And as for using RI/EF on ranged targets I wouldnt say do not use them I would simply say, again in my experiance, ive found i can fight better not using them against good ranged players because they know how to avoid them, by loosing line of sight, or range to drop them or whatever.
Oh and ive never used x-ray beam in pvp, no room for it in my build.