Carnifax

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I dont hate this game i love it and just dont want to have to find another game to play after four years of time spent here, but with the lead dev saying things like "no other content for issue 14" my hope fades

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Posi certainly didn't say that, and there's no clear agreement on what he did say.

Which does make his statement a poorly thought out one, but doesn't make it the harbinger of Doooooooom!!! you seem to have decided to take it as.

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I think I've realised what my problem with the statement is. It's like the run up to Xmas, you've no idea what you're getting and are staring at the oddly shaped boxes with delight, trying to figure out what they are.

All the time the person giving you the pressies is like "You're going to love this. It's so awesome. Bet you can't wait... Alright, I'll tell you what it's going to be. It's X!!!!!". Where X is quite good and of some interest, but the fact that they've first built it up way too much and then told you leaves you sorta deflated and with not very much to get actually excited about.

Hopefully Posi is doing what my mum used to do for Xmas (and still does actually), pretending that's all you're getting but has a few interesting socking fillers hidden away too.

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Pick up Group, as in a proper team running missions.

You know, the actual social way to play the game.

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Ew, PvE...

lol, im kidding.. I like them too, and I harly ever fill... I simply get 6 people that want to farm and benefit from it so I never need ask for fillers, sure it costs me in the long run but I'd rather other benefit from my farm also.

Although it is annoying when you run the map 10 times and the lvl 7 in the corner gets the purple drop xD

Anyhoo,

All i'm saying is that people should not be adverse to helping farmers... as long as they are polite.

"fill Plox" ~ is not something you will ever get from me.

You are more likely to get this,

"Hi, I am farming a map.. would you like to join me for some XP and Inf or if your not busy would you fill a spot in the team for 2 mins and I will be as fast as I can mapping it, ty Donna x"

Now when I get a rude reply to that kind of tell I have a right to be pss'd off because I have put some effort into being polite and to make sure I don't offend anyone.

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Now you're backpedelling, first you're talking about how "I do not Fill/Farm" comments annoy you and how the people posting them are antisocial and should play games on a console instead if they don't want to Fill. Now you've changed it to getting annoyed by receiving rude responses. Which is it?

And if you are failing to read and heed peoples Search comments any Fill request is going to annoy someone who has already expressly said, via their comments, that they don't do it.

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dad dong jive ?!

Dave Jogdind ?

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I think Dad Dong Jive is something we could all do with avoiding, especially if it disrupts space time!

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Aw. I've been practicing here in the office all afternoon

Dance lil guy, dance.

Quick Reply surely?

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Maybe the person wants to play alone and doesn't want to team. Just because there are other people in the game doesn't mean you HAVE to interact with them.

Being on the receiving end of an unwanted fill/farm/whatever request does feel rather like receiving an unwanted sales call by the way.

If you do see a comment like that in a search then please do just leave them alone, what would you gain from antagonising them?

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Its not that I gain anything, It's just I hate people that look down on farming and advertise it. Makes me want to confront them...

Dunno must be my nature.

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I've absolutely no issue with someone farming on their own or in a group with people, personally I don't enjoy running the same mish over and over but hey. C'est la vie.

But Filling != Farming. And if someone looking for Fills has the decency to read and respect comments and knows that no response probably means the person isn't interested or is busy elsewhere I've absolutely no problem with them either.

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Whats PuG ?

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Pick up Group, as in a proper team running missions.

You know, the actual social way to play the game. Anyone thinking they're being "social" by asking someone to waste a few minutes of their "I'm available to team" time before kicking them again needs to reconsider their definition of social gaming.

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There's nothing "hostile" in pre-emptively letting someone looking for a Filler or Farmer know that asking that person is a waste of time.

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I just don't like it...

It makes me feel like I am a sales call when I'm actually playing a game.

~Grrr

I mean if your not in a team whats the issue with filling, assuming that the farmer is polite in asking.

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I answered this yesterday

I can't see why some of the people on the other side of the argument, IE the people ASKING for Fillers can't just accept the fact that some of us prefer to leave our LFT status open for proper teams.

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ANY, tell about powerlevelling, filling or farming will be Ignored.

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I find this in particular insulting and annoys me... its a similar situation when I look at /search..

I see search comments that say "I WILL NOT FILL / FARM / PL so DO NOT ASK"

To be honest people with hostile search comments like this would encourage me to send them tells saying "fill plox" ~ lol


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There's nothing "hostile" in pre-emptively letting someone looking for a Filler or Farmer know that asking that person is a waste of time.

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People forget this is a Mmorpg, if you don'y want to be contacted... go play your playstation.


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I love how you equate "I don't want to fill/farm" (which is hardly a thrilling exercise to a lot of people) to "I want to play on my own"

Hiya Pillbug / Murdo.

This has been bugging me since the cossie competition. Have you ever played SLA Industries?

It's just that Murdo was exactly what I pictured a Frother from SLA Industries looking like, somewhere between a Scottish sterotype, someone from Trainspotting and an escapee from Mad Max 2.

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To be frank, I've had to put up with Issues which contained, for example, PvP and the Arenas, which were of no use to me what so ever. If it turns out that the MA is of no interest to 80% of players (which I doubt), it will still have been interesting to more people than some of the Issues were.

Sense of perspective, please. (Kidding myself... Interwebz.)

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Hee hee, I was just thinking of Issue 4 earlier.

That's the only one AFAIK though, and you'd think that 3 years later they'd have learnt a lesson from it (ie try and throw some sort of bone along with it)

I have to ask as well, are you Power Levelling or something? 24 toons to 50 is a hell of a lot and if you're just PLing them up as quickly as possible in order to get them uber you're missing a lot of the point.

The content in Villians is quite fun too, but make sure you pick a char who can solo as well as do well on Teams.

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And getting an Issue 13 buff.


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This is probably the only reason I'm still subscribed to the game, cannae wait for this and my new APP options on some of my toons (played Carni last night, she's going to be insane with another AOE)

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Plus no AV in Positron.

Is there any SF or Arc in Villains where you can kick his butt? I suddenly feel this urge after his I14 announcement...

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Yep, there's some Grandville mish, I did it 2 weeks ago on a PuG (and kicked his [censored])

Wasn't my mish though so I'm not sure who gives it out.

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Hmmmm... Am I just impatient? Is GhostRaptor very busy?

I'm still longing for that PPD Hardsuit code...

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Did you guys get this yet? I've heard nowt so far

Personally I'd have said fix Katie and Eden trials so they're not exploitable and give normal Merit rewards for them.

Posi is long and not very exciting but at least you get a good reward for it.

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- VEATS would be worthwhile, as for Blueside, they are laughable.


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In current PvP maybe, in PvE they're fantastic fun and a bit of a challenge to make properly.

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fair chance of a good recipe drop

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Sure, if you call Call of the Sandman a good recipe drop.


But if randrom drops are your thing, Positron now gives you 4.5 random pool C recipes.

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In which world is Positron fun?

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The point is, it doesn't matter which TF you do, you will simply be rewarded in proportion to the time spent doing it.

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No. You're awarded by the minimum amount of time a MinMaxing run can finish a TF, which is different.

Someone had an idea earlier that the Merits for the 1st time you do a TF should be a decent amount, which seems like a great idea to me. That way you can properly reward people doing their first Katie or Eden without leaving it really open to mass exploitation.

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reads to me as time period, concurrent user peaks, total number of subscribers.

from those numbers, i would say the need to do what war have done and allow controlled server migration really with the concurrent numbers of users listed their we shouldn't need many more than 7 servers, never mind 15.

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CoH does allow "controlled" server migration. They just have been charging you for the privilage....

No wonder total sales are up

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It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well

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Wouldn't it be a bit of masochism?

I guess if they were good, we'd have them

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It's a bit odd really, considering that the EU and US servers until recently were controlled by 2 separate companies.

From the last update I read you can't add fun things like Ambushes or place the mobs either, they're set automatically.

I assume you can add multiple enemy types though, and you can add the Mayhem missions to Heroes AFAIK which will be fun (assuming you can Mayhem on them rather than them just being instances of City Maps)

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

*Edit : In fact the Number of Servers figure indicates I'm right (11 US, 15 US & EU).

*Does the anti-pedant dance*

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Feb 04 2005 was when the EU version launched. Dec 2004 was when EU Beta started.

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Beta wouldn't count in terms of #connections though, look at the #Servers cited in Dec 2004.

In any case it's not a very nice figure really, and it's most likely down to the gap between issues.

It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well.

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

*Edit : In fact the Number of Servers figure indicates I'm right (11 US, 15 US & EU).

*Does the anti-pedant dance*

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.

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You don't see anything wrong with the fact its (a) its over a 10% drop and (b) the lowest figure ever for joint USA & EU?

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For the record, Petrifying Gaze is also awesome because you get another hold from your Patron Power Pool to stack it with, to perma-Hold any annoying bosses you come across (except specific ones like Fortunata...).

Pretty fun to watch a Gunslinger Boss hover about with Petrifying Gaze and Soul Storm stacked on him. Alternatively, you can take out two lieuts or minions with the two Holds. This'll make your /Dark MM very controlly, which is a good thing in my opinion. The two Holds are a rather important part of my personal playstyle.

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Pssst, 3 holds. The always-awesome Fluffy comes with one too, although god knows who he'll cast it on

My Necro/Dark currently has 4-5 of the things thanks to all the pets (depending on how many Spirits I have out), without Epics.

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Boomtown: Will Issue 14 include the Mission Architect only or will it also include other new features?

Matt Miller: Mission Architect is a strong enough feature that it can, and should, stand on it’s own for an issue. We are very excited to see what the players come up with!


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Oh FFS!! He honestly believes that?

Not impressed by that at all, and nor will a lot of people I reckon. Mission Architecture is a nice idea but at this stage I'm starting to think the Manhour investment is going to be way too high.

Moonfire is about 2 hours on a normal PuG, or was for me when I ran it, it doesn't look particularly exploitable either (first few missions are Defeat All).

Hell a Stealthing & TPing char running Posi could ghost more missions (first 8 of them) and just take out the boss.