Carnifax

Gah, I'm suffering graphical melt-down at the moment. The game hasn't stayed up more than 20 minutes tonight.

I dunno how the old girl is going to hold up tomorrow. I'll try to make it but I can't guarentee anything. To avoid ruining the bout its probably best if I let a reliable sub take my place.

Not that I'm scared of you or anything

I'll do a re-reinstall of the graphics drivers too and see if it makes a difference.

If you guys fancy an all-Irish Mayhem mission I've been saving one on my level 26/27 Kinetics Corrupter for a week or so. i'm usually a mid-late evening player too, 9pm+.

@Carnifax if you're on and looking for a teamie. If i'm on the side of good I'll switch over to join you.

7 Max Thunder/Spawnus/Discharge vs 3 Spines Sparrow/Carnifax/Hidden Healer

I'm assuming we're good for this? Except I don't think Discharge has shown up before so we might need a sub.

I'm happy to reschedule to fit any Footie fans though.

Hmmm. Doesn't Max Thunder have knockback protection? Uh-oh.

There's a fair few Irish folk on alright, I can think of at least 5 more on these forums from the top of my head.

I'm not really a Villains player though (I have it, just can't be bothered, the ATs aren't as much fun) so can't help you there in terms of joining an SG. If you're on the heroic side give me a shout though, I won't be leaving the Forgotten Warriors but I'm happy to team.

One thing to note with using Hurricane, the Accuracy debuff is a pretty wide area. So you only need to "scrape" them with the Hurricane to debuff them. So you don't need to go into knockback range, just tip the 'cane off them every few seconds. Combined with Disco_Freaks tactic you shouldn't be knocking them too far back.

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Went and bit the bullet anyway. Only wee change was getting Freezing Rain at 16 instead of 22 in case I ever end up doing an early TF or Bloody Bay.

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But you get sk/exemped to 25 for Bloody bay so even if you did get Freezing Rain at level 22, you would still have it in the zone.

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Oh, thought it was 20.

Goes to show how often I've been in there (never)

I'd agree with that, the MMs I've teamed with the melee zombies always tend to be the worst for aggroing since they're not leashed properly.

I have Necro / Dark too and really they are great. But they need to be watched closer than ranged henchies as they will chase runners quite happily, aggro anything in the way as they do.

Personally I never even upgrade my meatbags with the puke and use them as pure melee meatshield. The zombies seem to drop quicker than robots, but only because they are mostly tanking rather than the boring old "stand back and blasting" that Bots to. Plus you always want one to drop to break out the Spirit

Quite like mine really

Went and bit the bullet anyway. Only wee change was getting Freezing Rain at 16 instead of 22 in case I ever end up doing an early TF or Bloody Bay.

Decieve is a superb power. I can't believe I was ignoring it for over a year

To be honest Coin it was mostly down to Elerith and the fact you guys had no healer / buffer with you.

At the start I nearly v quickly faceplanted from your first strike until Elerith caught up with me and save my [censored]. After that they just buffed and buffed & healed.

No wonder the guy has "Also known as God Mode" in their Character description...

Not sure how effective the Smoke debuff is, my Fire / Rad skipped it.

With i7 Fulc Shift + Ice Storm is valid.

So Ice Mastery might tick all the boxes for you. Frozen Armour is +defense so theres Smoke synergy and you get the insane AOEness of Fulc + Ice Storm. Plus Fire Cages to stop them escaping. Nice. Then all you need to pick is if you want Ice Bolt or Hibernate.

Dunno how you'd justify it In Character though

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Thanks for the guidance Carni, but...

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...get full price for any enhances you dump as part of the respec...

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So I'll be re-buying all the enhancements?


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No, once you've picked powers and slots you get to reslot all the enhances you have or stick them in your Inventory. Any you don't slot / stick in Inv get sold at Purchase price for you. This means if you've a load of Yellow / Reds they aren't wasted but get sold for lots. So it can be useful to do it when you've to start changing enhancements anyway (27, 32 etc) to do it and sell the ones you would be overwriting for loadsomoney

So heres the build I've cobbled together. The slotting might be slightly all over the place but this is roughly what I'm thinking.

Decieve I left until 30 as I'd nothing else to pick. Might go O2 Boost instead but I fancy the change. Specced GI out and relying on Steamy Mist to keep me covered. The Damage Resist is nicer than Invis. Took Sup Invis at 49 just to have it.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(5)Acc(17)Dmg(17)Rechg(37)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2)Hold(3)Hold(5)Acc(7)Hold(11)Rechg(36)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4)
06) --> Flash==> Acc(6)Acc(7)Hold(9)Rechg(9)Rechg(11)Hold(46)
08) --> Recall Friend==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Steamy Mist==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(13)EndRdx(13)DmgRes(37)EndRdx(46)
14) --> Teleport==> EndRdx(14)Range(15)Range(15)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Acc(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Rechg(34)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Freezing Rain==> DefDeBuf(22)DefDeBuf(23)Rechg(23)DefDeBuf(27)Rechg(27)
24) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(24)TH_DeBuf(25)TH_DeBuf(25)TH_DeBuf(37)EndRdx(40)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(26)Fear(34)Acc(40)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)
30) --> Deceive==> Acc(30)ConfDur(31)
32) --> Phantasm==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Acc(34)
35) --> Tornado==> DefDeBuf(35)DefDeBuf(36)DefDeBuf(36)EndRdx(43)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Acc(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Range(39)Dmg(40)Acc(43)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)EndMod(42)Heal(43)
44) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Acc(46)Rechg(50)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Acc(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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So basically I've got Deceive, Superior Invis and O2 that are my "play with" powers, with 2 free slots at 30 & 49 to pick them.

I used my first Freespec (the Issue 4 one from over a year ago) when Carni was only about level 16 or 18. There is an advantage to using them at level 27, 32, 37, 42, 47 to get full price for any enhances you dump as part of the respec but I'm level 41 now and I'm freespeccing today anyway.

So i'd say go for it, especially if otherwise you find yourself reluctant to play the char because they feel "gimped".

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I don't know about doomed to fall apart, but certainly issue 2 of 3vP will be vastly refined (more organisers, better organisabetter rules regarding subs etc). There's still some fun PvP to be had in the competition, so if you can make it, please do so - don't just write it off.

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I'll be there, looking forward to it.

And I'm bringing a newly specced in pet Tornado, Windy, too.

*Edit : Dang. Just realised. This means I'm respeccing to suit PvP after saying I never would. Drat.

And "windy" is a terrible name for a pet. Must do better.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but at this stage, it might be a good idea just to call the 3vP tourneys off, and say "Okay, that was the training phase, we have a better idea how to do this now", and organise another 3vP some other time... once you have thought of a more flexable system. Preferrably one where subs cannot be specifically picked, and the person they are subbing for loses their life automatically for a no-show.

I feel your pain, Morgan.
I'll still turn up tonight though, we'll see what happens.

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Don't agree with this at all. Whats all the fuss about? no-one else seems to be calling for it to be ended but you Qi.

Standard practice with a tournament is to allow people to reschedule if a night doesn't suit. I really don't have any issues with this.

Excellent. Ta Del. Was concerned about Auto-haste getting me killed

Reckon i'll drop GI anyway. Its a passive power, doesn't really do much in combat and I can't really justify it and Steamy Mist together (even though I've had both since my early 20s).

I know Power Boost would be very useful to Storm but would it affect Tornado & Freezing Rain? I'm guessing with i7 it should but if any Stormies out there have had a chance to test it let me know.

With Blizzard I'll be stacking it with Snow Storm and Freezing Rain too so hopefully they won't be scattering too quickly. OMG. Am I going to become the thing I hate : The idiot scattering the nicely grouped mobs with Rain Ofs...?

With Primal I'd only get a single target blast, an armour (which I don't really want) & Power Boost. With Ice I'd get a single target blast (with no knockback), a nice panic button for when my End drops (happens a lot thanks to Storm) and an AOE attack. So it seems to be a toss up between being a better controller or a more offensive blaster hybrid.

I reckon a quick test of Hibernate this evening is called for, drop PAs & wait a wee while, stand in the middle in ice block mode as they drop and see how it works out (a fiver says it ends in *splat*)

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...I am working on my freespec for WL and once ive finished I'll post it up and see what you think(it will be a full PvP build)

Like wise you should post your's later and see if we cant help each other out.

All the best, Aphex

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Will do indeed. Generally I do end up in PvE teams but I want to play about with different powers too. I could even go the Haste > SS route and drop TP but in the 3vP the TP saved me loads of times against Mesmer and his evil Repel Bubbles.

It's certainly between Primal and Ice for me, both fit the char, the others don't.

Hi folks,
Ok so Freespec is upon us and I've a few questions with my Illusion / Storm Controller. Not posting the entire build as I doen't have it and I'm in work. But a few tweaks I'm pondering...

Group Invis : So whats the story with this new Surpression. It says "when you click on things". So when I click to use an item obviously, that was the point of it. How about :
if I click on a mob to target them?
Click on a teamie?
Use a power on myself or a teamie? ie if I've Haste on Auto will it surpress

Do Steamy Mist & Invis stack at all, even in PvP?

I'm considering removing Group Invis and replacing it with either Confuse or Tornado. I've given out about Tornado before but against an AV it may well be worth it. In PvP it seems to be pretty good too.

The Power Pools : When I got this it was a coin toss between Primal and Ice. I went Primal for Power Boost at 47. However given I'm a bit of a "fire and forget", pet heavy toon Hibernate may be of use to me as a healing & End regener once I've dropped out PAs, Phant, Spectral Terror & Storm Cloud (plus maybe Tornado). Also as a counter to when the PAs drop & I get their aggro it may be very useful. What do people think? It it possible to use it soloing to "hole up" and recoup relatively safely?

With Blizzard does the Scattering affect occur?

Thats all I can think of at the mo. There'll probably be more questions when they occur to me.

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So, just how bad is it?

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Not as bad as the (new, new, new, new, new, new, new) new Smoking Demon.

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I pay for my art don't ya know

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Is it just me or have there been more Smoking Demons than Dr Whos & James Bonds combined?

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Errm so next round is next monday right?

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Tonight as far as I was aware.

Yes. SC is good again. Still won't empty End with one shot, ED killed that off but well useful.

Transference is a thing of wonder

I insist that we play at the alloted time and anyone missing is removed from the competition and not allowed a sub.

(guess whose country isn't playing in the World Cup )

Really a good idea might be to move / split it between the Wednesday & Thursday so those going to get drunk and chant "Inger-lund, Inger-lund" etc can get it out of the way Wednesday instead.

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Actually has anyone checked that the Arena has no new bugs introduced with i7? It's one of the forgotten corners of the game and it'd be nice to know about any surprises pending...

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This a joke yes? Arena without bugs?

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As highlighted. I'm worried about new and interesting bugs. Don't care about the old uns. I'd just be concerned about i7 ruining the summer event on us with some undiscovered weirdness.

Actually has anyone checked that the Arena has no new bugs introduced with i7? It's one of the forgotten corners of the game and it'd be nice to know about any surprises pending...

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Energy/Invul I believe

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Thanks folks. Hmmm. A regen & a SR scrapper facing us. And Coin too. Fun, fun, fun

It's a random draw I believe. Random is as random does

I'm teamed with someone called Anata who's not listed on the sign-up thread. Anyone know their AT / powersets?