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Quote:Yup. And I would actually be in favor of adding a recovery portion to Beginner's Luck (Like, if your endurance hits zero, and you have less than 50% health, you get an extra 20 endurance or so to simulate adrenaline rush).Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I actually agree. I see no reason to make the fitness powers inherent. My only wish is for the pre-stamina levels to suck less. We've made great strides in that area already:
Beginner's luck for hitting our enemies
Temp travel powers
Better lowbie contact/missions design redside
Inventions (if you really want to get silly and frankenslot that early)
Vet attacks
I'm sure that there's more. I really only came into this thread to argue against the "you don't NEED stamina!!!" crowd.
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Quote:Yah, I see what you mean. That's a fair argument.Originally Posted by BrandX
Actually. From a concept point of view, super hero/super villains, would most likely have fitness from a concept point of view.
So why wouldn't 90% of them have it as a power pool?
These are people who usually engage in lots and lots of physical activity.
Or going from a "well mines a robot" hero/villain...they'll want a better power supply.
You don't stay fit, you'll be sucking wind before you finish running that first mile.
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I actually wanted to try a challenge at some point. And that was skipping Stamina, and instead relying on IO set bonuses to compensate for it (no one likes stopping and resting every other group).
After thinking over it many times, I think while theoretically feasible, it's not a practical substitution for Stamina, because of price and rarity of IOs at low levels. Still though...I think it's possible if price and rarity wasn't an issue. -
Quote:Are you kidding me? I love that proc!Originally Posted by TamakiRevolution
It's nice until you notice it's a rag proc >.> Gratz
Nothing's cooler than watching your Fireball knock people up! Muhahahaha! -
Quote:It's true. Suppressive Fire could be better (especially in the range area), but it goes well with my play style. I rely on Suppressive Fire and Telekinetic Thrust, and sometimes Subdue to keep enemies away from me. And when solo, it helps picking off nasty enemies like Sappers and Sorcerers.Originally Posted by BrandX
I have all the attacks except SF (animation is good, I just dont find a mag 3 hold useful...i need another hold to stack with it AND IF DID that's even more redraw).
But yes, the re-draw makes me sad. -
Quote:Yah. PC_guy's build, while powerful, really didn't look "fun" by my standards. It was just a purely maximized build. Personally, I took all Dual Pistols attacks just cause they're freakin' fun! And Suppressive Fire comes in handy quite often when I solo. But even then, I still managed to find a nice balance between fun, concept, efficiency and price! Here's my build, if anyone's curious:Originally Posted by BrandX
Hmmm...I can see what you're saying, I think I just don't care for the waiting on my single target attacks to recharge, and don't want to keep using the AOE attacks for a single target, not to mention I love the ES animation. All that makes me keep it in.
As for the placate proc, I have it, havent slotted it into a power yet, so I haven't seen it in action in a PvE setting. Since it wouldn't hit all the time, I don't figure it will be all that great, but I was thinking it may have some use if I did use Flash Freeze.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Psicorpion (Concept): Level 50 Natural Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Munitions Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(48), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Subdual -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(15), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(17), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(17), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(46), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(46)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Empty Clips -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(5), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(5), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-Travel(9)
Level 10: Bullet Rain -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(11), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(11), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(13)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Drain Psyche -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(40), Heal-I(42)
Level 22: Telekinetic Thrust -- FrcFbk-Acc/KB(A), FrcFbk-Rchg/KB(23), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(23)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(27), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(27), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Concentration -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Suppressive Fire -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(31), Lock-Rchg/Hold(31), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), Lock-%Hold(36)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(36), DefBuff-I(36)
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Body Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(42), ResDam-I(42)
Level 44: Surveillance -- AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(A), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: World of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(48), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(50), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(50), CoPers-Conf%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition -
Hrm. Opinions. How do I put this...
The build you've posted is just absolutely one of the worst ways you could build a DP/MM, even if you put high value on concept (like me).
Psychic Shockwave, Drain Psyche, and Hail of Bullets are your most important powers, and you've managed to make them almost useless with the way you've slotted them, short of Hail of Bullets.
Your build is also ridiculously expensive, especially when considering how under-performing it would be.
Looking at others' posts, I think I should stop taking this thread seriously. -
Quote:HAVE YOU GROWN A SOUL YET?!?!!Originally Posted by makai_no_falco
i'm on team "let's just make fun of what a drama-fest this post has become" and i'm the op.
I'm also on team edward. Edward elric that is. Small angry alchemist ftw!
Ps: Grow a soul!!!
Alright, this thread's officially turned into happy fun times! Weee~! -
Quote:Neither. But team I'm-too-cool-for-this-thread-and-yet-I-still-post-in-it is holding up a nice score so far!Originally Posted by Agonus
Geez, this thread is still going?
So who's winning? Team Waaa-you-can't-tell-me-what-to-say or Team Have-some-common-courtesy? -
Quote:Fixed that for ya!Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
I can honestly see someone seeing a link between ERPvP and simulating Non-Consentual Sexual Activity. I might not crack jokes about it, but I certainly don't participate in ERP, with or without the "vP", as the E doesn't stand for "Rated T for Teen (13+, Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB)" and you never know how old the other player *really* is.
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This is so...strange! I suddenly feel so...fuzzy...and cute! What is this strange feeling?! I'm scared!
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Quote:Internet is srs bsnz?!?!Originally Posted by Nucess
What's worse is there's drama on VU and I'm not informed... sheesh people... don't you know that delicious VU drama SUSTAINS ME.... I mean why else would someone post a thread about them being kicked out of a player run channel for an online video game. Don't yall know that internets is srs bsnz? OMGWTFBBQSAUCE... soo mad rite nao... I'll be in the angry dome....
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Quote:Verbal response: Rrrrrr~! Facial expresssion: Wink.Originally Posted by Silver_Tooth
Beverage: Tea. Specification: Earl Grey. Temperature: Hot.
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I actually liked it. Good job!
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I also got the 54th and 57th reward the other night. I got -soooo- happy. It's just what I needed to cheer up (I was having a bad day) and now I'm happier to know they're freebies to stay!
I've just really really really wanted 57th month cause of the 50% Discount on Tailor. I love me my tailor. xD
Thanks guy! -
Also, just as a side note, can we please have a link to this rule book of VU? Surely it's easily accessible to the general public, it being such an important document and all. I'm just curious.
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Quote:Okay, then I take my statement regarding Garielle's comment back. I was mistaken.Originally Posted by Commander
Actually, there is a "rule book" of topics that shouldn't be discussed. And I believe they were carried over from the first VU channel.
Didn't think so!Quote:Originally Posted by Commander
No, not really.
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Quote:I'm offended that you bring up a topic like my loved one being fallen victim to such a thing on such a petty, worth-less topic. You are causing me pain and suffering and ruining my escape from reality. Grow a soul!Originally Posted by Commander
What is "self-righteousness" about being concerned about others? There were many people offended by the comments made, the issue was dealt with by an operator of the channel, and this wildfire spread because a disgruntled person decided to "vent" about how he was mistreated.
Yeah. I'm at fault 100%.
Let me ask you this: has a loved one ever fallen victim to anything? Do you not care for them or their well being? What if someone caused them to live the pain they suffered over and over, for the sake of amusement? Well, to many people, that's what this whole issue created.
I mean, this is a game that people play to get away from reality. Just because you also pay the subscription doesn't mean that it gives you any rights to do as you wish. The comments never should have been made, and I should not have made a reply to a "rant" thread about the subject. But here we are at an impass; the damage already done.
But you can say what you want. The thread will be locked and removed soon enough and in another month we'll have something new to disagree over.
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Quote:See, that would be completely valid if something like a public channel had pre-determined rules and regulations, and moderators were only there to enforce these rules. Now I'm not a member of VU, but I doubt there is a "DA RULZ" book for the channel, and for that, kicking someone would be purely based on moderator discretion.Originally Posted by Garielle
Sorry Commander, I was really trying to see your side to this whole thing. I mean, I am all for free speech, but the fact of the matter is NO moderated channel is a public forum. The moderators have every right to decide what is and is not appropriate for discussion in that channel, just as any newspaper publisher has every right to decide what will and will not be published in that paper, and just as NC Soft has every right to decide what can and can not be discussed on these forums. They own them. It's they who set the rules.
And just because someone is a moderator, it doesn't make them "right"; especially in such a large, popular channel. I don't remember VU ever being created by a small group of like-minded people for a specific goal with a set of rules and regulations.
It is a public channel to bring people in Virtue together. Much like Broadcast. You can't declare moderators as representatives of "law" in such a scenario... precisely because there IS no law.
So, in the absence of any "law", the next best thing is "warning". Something the moderator (assuming all facts are present) refused to do and simply kicked the person. THAT is the part that is wrong, and far out-weighs what the OP did. -
Quote:So heart-breaking...and hilarious!Originally Posted by Commander
Grow thicker skin? How about grow a soul?
You have managed to completely and utterly blow the issue way, way, WAY out of proportion, just to prove your stance as some sort of a..."law abiding citizen" of this virtual community?
The report tool is given for a reason; and that is to take away your self-righteousness and let the people who designed the EULA decide on things. So use it and stop trying to "fix" this oh-so-sick world in which puppies die and baby seals cry.
Come down from that high throne sometime. The weather's nice down here too! -
Quote:I could've never said it any better!Originally Posted by Mandu
Since I keep the VU window open all the time I insist that anybody who posts anything mentioning either of the following two topics be banned from the channel instantly.
No jokes about car wrecks or drunk/drugged drivers. My sister was killed when a stoned semi driver rear ended her.
No jokes about having a heart attack. Two good friends of mine who were young and in good health have died of a sudden massive heart attack. The last one just a month ago.
I'm sure that there are plenty of people here who can add other restrictions. No jokes about shooting somebody, about mugging somebody, about being attacked by wild animals, about skateboarding accidents, being stabbed with a spoon, being slapped and smacked repeatedly. And if some unthinking brutish pathetic excuse for a human being should joke "This Posi TF is going so badly I wish I could point my AR at my own head." Then they should be instantly banned from every channel for life because there is almost definitely somebody out there who has had a family member commit suicide with a gun.
Or to put my opinion more bluntly. Either instantly ban anybody who says anything that somebody might find painful or ban nobody for it. A moderator who overreacts due to personal experience with a discussed subject should not be a moderator. If you can not treat all cases equally then you are not a moderator, you are a dictator.
Talking to a person is a reasonable first step. Silencing them if they keep it up is a reasonable second step. Banning them if they still haven't learned their lesson is a reasonable action. Jumping straight to step 3 is the action of somebody who has problems with self control let alone control of others.
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...I foresee no good end to this thread.
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Quote:Everyone in the world finds certain things offensive. For instance, I might feel offended when someone is playing loud music with "offensive" lyrics next door. I might feel offended when some people joke about my culture (I'm Iranian, and people do joke about my background all the time). I might feel offended about tons of things that most people don't find offensive.Originally Posted by NekoAli
To those who always respond to these situations with 'grow some skin' or 'it was just a joke', I respond with 'Grow some common courtesy and respect for your fellow people'.
Unless you know everyone is going to be okay with your subject matter, there are some things that are to sensitive to being brought up in an even casual joking matter. This happens to be one of the big ones. Having had to console friends after they have been attacked in such a vile manner and living in fear of it myself, I find absolutely no humor in any way with it. It's like telling survivors of the Holocaust jokes about it. Some things a decent human being just doesn't do.
So you said a joke in very poor taste in a public forum and were punished for it. What can I say about this but.. hey, 'Grow some skin already'.
What does this mean? Should I break into tears every time someone offends me by doing any of those actions? Should I go and complain to "moderators" if someone makes a joke about Middle Eastern people and terrorism? Or should I rage and go smack my neighbor for blasting loud music that "offensive" lyrics?
My point is, "offensive" is a purely subjective concept.
Now, there are two options: Either people toughen up and learn to not get offended by every little thing that penetrates their comfort zone, or people never do anything that might potentially penetrate someone else's comfort zone.
Both options are impossible.
So the conclusion is that there needs to be a sense of "moderation". Yes. If my neighbor played really loud music with lyrics that I find offensive for 40 hours per week, then yes. I'd do something about it. Anything less than that, I can tolerate. I respect them, as they respect me.
If the OP was on a frenzy of r**e jokes for an hour in a global channel, or the person always made similar offensive jokes over and over again, then yes. They deserved to be "dealt" with.
But a simple joke like that is way below what would be considered "normal tolerance". And just because the joke was offensive to a minority group, it doesn't make it okay for the minority group to suddenly have zero tolerance for others having fun with a subject they find offensive.
It's mutual respect. You respect someone's taste in jokes, as they respect your limitations, provided the limitations and magnitudes of jokes are reasonable.
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While I do agree that not every joke is fit for large, public communities, I also think whoever kicked the OP was over-reacting immensely.
There is a very wide spectrum for jokes you can make about any sensitive topic. OP's joke was on the very light side of it, and I don't think it deserved that reaction.
If we were to get offended by every little thing that people joke about, the world would be a very dull, unfunny place.
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Wow! These are awesome! Thanks!