Blue_Centurion

Good advice Uskarex thanks. I got 'dumped' into lead position on that one. I was unaware of the exact level of stun prot needed in the final fight. I will study that so I know the numbers in my head.

I had led a successful UG once before using 3, with instructions to Clarion 1 at start, 2 at 15 sec, 3 at 30 sec. No idea if they followed my instruction, and the fight was over in about 40 seconds. I assume at least one or two hit Clarion, possibly when I had instructed. I was bruting that, and we had somewhere between 3-5 brutes/tanks, and we all got to the front (I was quite proud of that) and so the squishies were backstabbing the beast. I assume that helped a lot, and of course, Des was led in. I led this a few months ago and received the attaboys at the end. It did not leave me with a desire to run another.

I went on this with my 50+1 because I finally leveled this 50 after about 4 years and ran him though the alpha unlock and 1 Keyes. I used e-mailed threads to unlock the 50+1. But he is really a back burner guy. I slammed a great I/O build on him from spares in my base, not 'tuned' which is my new favorite toy. I have a crapton of un-tuned I/Os of my favorite types in my base, thought the old guy deserved some. The reason I tell you this is I saw the UG being advertised and new I had a 'decent' build, 50+1 Dark/Invul with a expensive I/O build AND I desperately needed both types of Incarnate experience, that UG gives out like no other trial. I have not run the character since that trial. He only regularly gets played as my weekly CoT redside guy. Someday I will +3 him lol. maybe next year?

NVM, this conversation was not nearly as interesting as I had hoped.

SSA = Signature Story Arc (sweet rewards if you like them)

DFB = Death From Below (Low level TF, just go to atlas park and say LF DFB)

I/Os = Invention Origins

Any character any level can get to Praetoria through Pocket D. There is a Martini Glass looking door icon in the main dancing area tucked behind the big sloping ramps. Creating a character there requires going rogue I think, mebbe not for VIP. I've always been VIP and bought all expansions, so unclear on where the red ropes are.
CoH Wiki is the source, or course!

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Main_Page

The Praetoria storylines are nicely done. They have little patience for low end machines though. Praetoria is also mostly deserted, and you are locked there until 20. But, it's a neat little game there all the same.

The Incarnate trials and Incarnate Powers are a very nice addition to the game. Explore, Enhance, Enjoy.

Positron TF got a revamp, and the Sister Psyche TF was relaced by the Penny Yin TF. Both good moves.

If you like the I/O game there are some neat changes. On the spendy end you can now buy tuned I/Os from the paragon market in microtransactions (they do add up lol) My main is mostly kitted out in these for ease of Exemplaring. While painful to do (because of storage problems) I find them wonderful for leveling concept builds as well, so I can get a feel for the build much earlier than 40 or 50.

The DFB is hard to miss, the new sanctioned powerleveling for new characters. Also drops SOs and temp powers.

Actually, there is a lot more stuff, but those are some of my favorites. Glad to have you back, enjoy.

The easiest ride in the game (for me) is the Super Strength / Willpower Brute. Strong and powerful on SOs, and super easy on a strong I/O build. I have rolled many of these, and recently made the decision for one to be my main. I solo'd all the way through Praetoria for the couple extra badges only available there since this build will be my badger over the next few years. I have almost all tuned enhancers on him (everywhere they fit!) since this will also be my go-to exemplar'd build.

For me Super Strength has always been one of the most smashtastic brutiest super sets ever. The bonuses from Rage are unequaled in the game. Paired with Willpower you are the energizer bunny of Brutes. Definitely not Tanky, (especially with Will's weak taunt aura), but plays closer to one of the meanest Scrappers ever. Just watch it so you never take a full alpha to the face (or do if I/O'd!) and soak up the hate, pouring it back as FS and KO extra damage.

Yes, the league teleport. But I also had a problem in that peeps were starting to engage the last fight due to impatience. THis was "death wish tactics" although the peeps doing it did not realize that.

There is ONE easy way to do that last fight. You can do it sloppy with a ton of power ( I mean a metric TON of I/O'd incarnated+3 tier 4'd godbuilds) , but generally people die, slowly, the league gets worked for long minutes, and nothing is fun. If you follow the simple advice on Wiki, and have 3+ clarions firing in a decent interval the fight lasts 30 secs to a minute. People always seemed stunned how easy it is when done professionally.

Clever, I'll throw that into my bag of tricks and hopefully remember to pull it back out at the right time.

I jumped onto a UG about a week ago, just cause I needed the incarnate experience. We ended up with a League of 16-18. I was on a brand new 50, had gotten alpha to tier 3, but nothing else. But it is one of my "serious characters" and has a very set up i/o build, as well as being a dark/invul brute, which is no slacker. So, i did not feel as if I would be bringing nothing to the table.

I will not lie, it was tougher than I thought it would be. I had forgotten the penetrating stun from some of the mobs. Oof. The "You are targeted" + "You are Held" combo got me a couple times as well. Still, I soldiered on.

The League was acting good, and things were going well, until the 1st giant robot. Then it became obvious that quite a few players were not used to the UG, and I mean at all. The league leader quit. I love to bark when stressed, so I started barking what I wanted and trying to lead and stay alive. Miraculously we put down both bots with a couple minutes to spare. I was like, "huh, interesting."

We continued on, going pretty smooth, someone went ahead and cleared the bombs. I started rattling off the wiki patter I had learned, repeating it a few times so everyone heard it.

Brutes and Tanks will go in. Get agro, stay in front. Everybody else pile in bhind. Bring in the zombie NPC we kept alive so she can do the magic she does.

We had 3 clarions and I had verbal confirmations from them on my preferrred drop rate for them, 1, 2, 3, we were almost at the room.

AND the NPC got stuck in a wall right before the last door that has a loading screen (so even if we wanted we could not drag the beast to her) THe whole situation devolved from there. Worse, we got her unstuck, so no Help Request would be valid. Truly Tragic. I have only led 1 UG myself before this (went surprisingly smooth) and I was really hoping this one would be my 2nd (made more sweet for turning it around) but it was not to be.

I guess the only help I am looking for is are they doing anything to correct this kind of "things get stuck so the game just wasted an hour or two from 15 people's lives" situation? Cause it was real frustrating to get that close and have the situation devolve due to a stuck NPC.

I saw this message about 12 hours ago. Soooo.... How the party at the D going? Have the flowers wilted yet?

Nice. I have the ascension, and it is....interesting to work with.

I sort of have a peeve about all the coloring in the game. For instance, I have a sweet little costume I just built out of standard pieces, and no back detail worked with it. (wanted something for flight) Wings were right out, mechanical wings were also out, the rocket backpack from Mecha was almost right, but too big. The simple rocket from the new space stuff! Yes. I worked with the color on it for half hour, still not happy.

For the love of all that is artistic, can they not just add a skin option to these things that have a standard color palette and not whatever underlying texture or tone makes it not match anything else in the game? Is that really too much to ask? Seriously, 1 drop down on the thing, no texture. Argh.

From best to works 1 equals very good, 10 not so much

1) Can lead a league on a very complicated task even if some are new to the task, or build a league that can accomplish an extremely difficult task. ( Cathedral of Pain, Underground Trial, Master of ___________ Badge run ) consistently

2) Can lead teams to accomplish difficult tasks ( Master of _______ TF )

3) Can build and run a difficult character type ( difficult for them, a melee player running a squishy, etc.) and do it extremely well, hitting optimal performance. (Optimal means understanding what the character can do and milking it for all it's worth)

4) Can build and run a archetype they are comfortable with hitting optimal performance.

5) Can join a new TF, Trial, or Master Badge run (that they have never been on before) and help the league/team succeed in the goal by following directions.

6) Be a useful member of a team/League

7) Be on a team or league and not do anything that makes the situation worse. (pulling extra spawns the team is not ready for, using knockback to destroy the killbox setup the team is going for, etc.

8) Only once in a while doing something that does nothing to help. ("oops, I think i just pulled that spawn...")

9) Kind of listen to what the team is trying to do, but sort of doing what you want, and creating almost as much chaos as help you bring to the team.

10 ) Leeeeeroy Jenkins!

Thanks Harry. I had actually not considered Hurl. (Mostly cause I rarely take it.) But it does indeed give a rough graphical physics estimate of what a Super Strength character is able to pull off with sheer brute force.

Interesting CoHRock. I think the Tank would make a Good base for the Brute. Using my logic (no guarantee I am right btw) sheer force output is the measure of the strength. ie I do not care about to hit, or whether you hit harder "are stronger" as a base or because of rage issues. We will obviously leave out outside buffs though. No cheating in the Paragon Olympics. Ahem. (I'm looking at you Dr. Aeon!)

Teleport Foe has a range of 200 feet and an accuracy of 1. If you can get enough +acc bonus on that and get to the edge of the range (A lot of set up I know) it can be a evil little trap. Thats what I enjoy about CoH/CoV, if pushed you can really find these neat out of the box situations. A /Traps Blaster could line the entire way to the pulled mob with enough hate to clear a spawn, in theory. And the poor Sapper or Super Stunner that is TP'd? ah, good times.

Okay, it has to be asked. Or, at least, I am asking it.

How strong is someone with Super Strength? I guess we would have to split that into Tanker and Brute. (Loved the line about Paragon Olympics and what Brutes have to do to get ready in another thread lol) To make it easier (?) we can just use tanker numbers and then adjust everything by the damage multiplier as if it was a straight up strength multiplier. I would assume a big difference between 1st level and 50th as well. I am most interested in these (1st level "floor") and (50th level "ceiling") numbers.

I would assume it would have to be converted into a amount of force delivered kind of thing, with a comparison of two or three attacks and their effects with another more mechanical and open system. Say, average damage for Punch, Haymaker and Knockout Blow compared to average damage of attacks in another game. (The only one I know to use is the old school tabletop hero game system, which converts to physics rather easily, if not perfectly exactly) THere may be a better and more efficient way.

Once you have that you can easily convert (easily is relative here) to Bench Press, Deadlift, and Squat.

Anybody got any pencil sketches of this kind of mathematical doodling hanging around their desktop? I cannot be the first geek to have this cross my mind.