Bloodspeaker

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Fascists and anarchists just aren't as appeailing to the majority of the player base, who like to play blue side

Originally Posted by PurpleHippo

I'm sorry for the lack of information i provided, here is some background info.

I have no opposition towards any toon or set in particular.

Here are my 50's

-Fire/Fire Blast
-Fire/Fire Tank
-KM/Invul Brute
-Crab
-WS
-Fire/Kin Troller
-Spines/Elec Scrap
-Ill/Rad
-Elec/Shield Scrap
-Plant/Rad
-DM/Shield Brute
-Stone/SS Tank
-Elec/WP Brute
-DP/MM Blaster
-SS/Fire Brute
-TW/Fire Brute

Originally Posted by GPBunny

Also with prompts to teleport being very common clicking yes before seeing it is a vote to kick has caused problems.

Originally Posted by Aggelakis

I think he's under the impression that your OP, which is requesting people to log into Beta and give their opinions in the appropriate thread in Beta Forums, followed by your opinion of them, isn't enough for him. He seems to think it's a female-dog fest of epic proportions, though I'm not entirely sure where he's getting that from. He thinks you should have used more words to describe what's wrong and how to fix it (even though there's a thread for that in the Beta Forums).

Your subsequent posts were a little over the top, but the OP is what he seems to be hung up on, and I just can't see his version of it.


(Bloodspeaker: I understand that this is akin to putting words in your mouth, but do realize this is what you come across as, regardless of what you actually mean.)

Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim

If you don't mind, could you please explain this response?

Originally Posted by SlickRiptide

John, with all due respect I think you're knee-jerking a bit here.

In the end, we're all going to go on with our lives and nobody is going to shed tears if Emil Petrovic become Chernobog instead of Marrow Drinker. It's kinda hard to drink marrow in the first place and Chernobog is kind of a cool guy to be named after so really, it's not such a big deal.

The big deal is that the Powers That Be have been making a practice of being unfamiliar with their own product and of changing things whenever it suits them.

Case in point, about the Skulls - We all know that Skulls wear masks,right? When Atlas Park Mark 2 launched, Grym made it clear that whoever wrote his dialog thought that they wore face paint. It went live despite objections. Now, we have masks again and not just masks but masks that are going to become player costume elements.

Just yesterday, Matt made a post about how Marrowsnap was nothing special as a name, that HE created the name as a generic boss name and that any confusion on the matter of it being a specific boss name was most likely a confusion by the players based on lack of information (about which lack, don't get me started on Standard Lore Rant #3). It only took one following post to point out that the official studio website background information on the Petrovics says that they named themselves Marrow Snap and Marrow Drinker. Oops.

Matt would wave it off as a mistake, just a studio mistake that is being corrected/clarified. Regardless, it's not a single instance of such a mistake. It's a pattern that's been developing for years now.

The discontent and nit-pickiness if you care to classify it as such is a reaction to that. I don't ask that you change your opinion. I would ask that you look through the objections being raised here and on the beta forum and consider whether some of those objections (particularly about the Boris Badenov dialog) might be legitimate ones.

I will simply say what I've been saying - If the Skulls are being "clarified" to show that they've been an ethnic gang all along, then how is that making them more interesting and how is it improving the game? More to the point, what is being done to insure that continued gaffes about the story are dealt with appropriately, especially when the studio has publically stated an all-but-official policy that nobody should feel beholden to the established canon?

This is a RPG. The backstory is the foundation of the game, regardless of how many players could care less about it. Other game studios treat their backstory and in-game history as a strength. They build on it and feed it to the players as a benefit of learning the game. This studios throws their backstory away and publically makes statements about how their developers should be able to make whatever new thing they want without concern about whether it fits the established backstory, contradicts it, or outright erases it.

It is reasonable for people who care about the story to respond to that state of affairs. I support anyone who is fine with the changes to express their opinions and to BE fine with them. The game will go on regardless and few of us will quit in disgust over it. However, in return I ask that the opinions of the dissatisfied people be respected as well. Customers are customers and the studio needs to know about that dissatisfaction, especially in the rare case where it's not just the "usual suspects" complaining but a measurable percentage of normally quiet individuals.

Whether that's the case here or not remains to be seen. The final form of the whole thing remains to be seen. The studio has already said that they're dealing with the dialog. We'll see how they address any of the other suggestions/complaints or if they are comfortable with their design and choose to leave it as is. That's their perogative, too.

We all know that. There is constructive dialog happening here, not just ******** and kvetching. We should all do our part to keep it that way.

Originally Posted by plainguy

I pick up OG when I can, as was mentioned for a Traps mastermind it is AMAZING. OG, poison traps and the lockdown proc in poison traps. I can't think of more ways to lock down a full group of minions on 4/8 setting. Heck it works well on Incarnate stuff. I stand in front of incoming mobs during Baf AV fights so they get stunned as I attack the AVs.

Originally Posted by Dante

I've seen Merit Vendors with better outfits.

And that's saying something. Purple and yellow.... really? Eeek.

Originally Posted by Organicide

This is an all out attack aganist the cottage rule and I personally feel violated as a 6 year vet. For LITERALLY years I've been perfecting my build to minimize debt incurred via defeats. It's not just the time I've sunk into my toons but the hundreds of influence I've burned collecting the needed recipes, salvage etc. to put them together. I will fight these unfair and frankly game ruining changes tooth and nail.

Originally Posted by Tenzhi

Is this a reference to something?

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Saturday has been removed due to lack of interest.

Originally Posted by mauk2

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Tenzhi

It's a bourgeois conspiracy!

Originally Posted by Primantiss

However you can summon him in Talos Island 2 immediately after defeating him in Talos Island 1 right? (Granted still only get 2 merits on the second kill)

That is if your server is populated enough to have multiple Talos Islands xD

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Psychoti........missed a pun?

I believe the world is coming to an end.

Originally Posted by Roderick

Because that's what the players want. A couple years ago, at one of the Player Summits, Positron asked the group about non-unique naming. He set it up in an "All for/all opposed" manner. For the "All for" side, there was a smattering of support. For the "All opposed", the response was thundering.

Originally Posted by Ironblade

I would have said plethora.

Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down

I suspect it follows the full moon cycle, but I have no proof.

Originally Posted by Blackleviathan

all I want to know is there going to be a badge for this event