Bill Z Bubba

1: You're ignoring the fury gained from the incoming attacks.
2: Anyone playing a brute at level 50 on base difficulty should delete said brute just as anyone playing a scrapper at level 50 on base difficulty should delete said scrapper.
3: The quote you used of mine is for an em/inv brute at level 25. She doesn't have total focus or energy transfer. At 50, feel free to open with TF and ET if you like. It won't matter as long as you're cycling in the quick recharge, low cast time attacks as well.

4: Here's a long one: If you really wish to compare brutes versus scrappers, let's also talk about the pre-50 fully IOed out stages.

1-21: Attacks aren't 6 slotted. If you don't slot end-red, you'll be sucking wind every fight. That drops damage. If you don't slot some accuracy, you'll miss more, burning more end, doing no damage. That drops damage. Don't slot recharge and you might end up with big pauses in your attack chain, reducing overall DPS. That's even less damage per attack. Probably no damage enhancements in the power at all.

All the scrapper has at that point is the higher base value and crits.

Brutes, on the other hand, don't need to worry about slotting damage. They get to cruise around with a variable 0 to 180% damage buff from moment one.

Guess who'll be leveling faster due to less downtime?

The story remains true even after SOs. While scrappers need to concentrate on getting more damage enhs into their attacks, brutes get to utilize more end-red and rec-red since fury takes care of their damage enhancement issue.

Twelfth, what's your current build look like? I'm looking at your build now in Mids and there's quit a bit I'd change, but I'm assuming that you want to work with the SetIO pieces you have now?

1: Brutes have a single target taunt attached to their attacks.

2: Brutes can take the power taunt.

3: Most brutes have taunt auras.

4: Enemies fight back, hit or miss, those attacks increase fury.

5: If a brute is teamed with 7 dominators and every spawn is completely locked down and unable to fight, the brute doesn't very well need fury now does he?

6: In game surveys are not valid data points. They're worth precisely nothing except to the ignorant that ignore factual data when failing to prove their baseless arguments.

Ok, at this point, Duh Capn is spewing so much idiocy that I'm getting annoyed.

Scrapper damage buff cap: 400
Brute damage buff cap: 750

Back to Claws (This time, actually READ THE WORDS and make an ATTEMPT at understanding them.)

Claws attack chain: Followup, Slash, Focus, Strike.

Scrapper:
Base damage of chain: 287.285
Buffs: Max buff 400%
Total damage of chain: 287.285*(1+4) = 1436.425

Brute:
Base damage of chain: 209.958
Buffs: Max buff 750%
Total damage of chain: 209.958*(1+7.5) = 1784.643

The brute wins by 350 points of damage PER CHAIN. EDIT: Left off the AVERAGE 7.5% crit rate for scrappers. Bumps the scrapper total to 1544.157. The brute only wins by 240.486 damage per chain.

Brutes don't sit at 75% fury between missions? No ****, Sherlock. I'll quote myself again since you don't bother reading posts:

Yup, just a hoarding block.

We'll still be lacking offline SG/VG invites and demotions/promotions, but we're almost to the point where I want this game to be.

I min/max my claws/sr main scrapper and utilize shockwave in a way that will cause knockback haters to have seizures.

I've been called a dirty power-gamer.

I've been told I don't know how to use shockwave properly.

I've been told a great many things and been called a great many more.

It's your 15 bucks, do what you want. If it doesn't work with the way I do things, we don't have to team with each other.

The game appears to be geared toward players running multiple characters. Next week we're finally getting the ability to email ourselves inf.

There will be absolutely zero excuses outside of silly RP self-gimping to not have every alt you make be rich enough to afford all the TOs, DOs and SOs that you will need throughout the course of leveling 1 to 50.

EDIT: Except for new players, of course. I met one once... a few months back. She asked me how I got my wings. I explained vet rewards. I explained the market. I explained salvage and recipes. I gave her 10 million inf. (I think) No clue whether she still plays.

I take it I need to get a screen shot of my brute at x1 difficulty with 175% damage buff from fury?

Pretty sure when I did it I used a demo of my main villain fighting along the north edge of grandville.

It's still the stalker-brute set, good for PvP when leaning HEAVILY on Overload. Energy Drain is autohit, the self-heal is... cute.

I tried it again after that change was added, deleted her at 33ish.

If you want a set with buckets of endurance management so you can stack EA's powers with tough, weave, maneuvers, cj, assault and tactics, then this could be your set.

I completely spaced on coming in to update this thread once I-17 hit open beta.

So here's what to expect once I-17 goes live.

Everything in the first post is now false.

All of the known issues are gone. Except for possibly the 9200/Grandville/Geometry Buffers issue. If you're still running on a 92** series card... seriously, upgrade, please. Toss that thing in the trash. Oh, sorry, I mean, "recycle it responsibly."

FSAA and AF will need to be controlled by the game. Set them both to Let Application Decide in the CCC. Upgrade your drivers.

Last I checked, Ambient Occlusion is not playing nicely with FSAA on ATI 5 series cards and possibly the 4 series as well. Pick which one you like more and kill the other. I, of course, will be killing AO.

On the day that I-17 goes live, I'm going to request that this thread be unstickied. It's usefulness is finally and thankfully at an end.

I just logged off of test where I was getting 30-60 FPS in Grandville with 100% world detail, running at 1920X1200, FSAA 4X, AF 16X, all ultra mode settings at max except AO and DoF which are disabled. This is with an ATI 5870 on Win 7-64bit with 6GB RAM and an I-7 920 proc OCed to 3.2GHz.

All praise to Satan. Hail, Cthulhu, may he eat you last.

Transfered my dp/dark cor from test1 to test2. Logged into Grandville. Went street sweeping at north edge of main island. Game crashed. Hoping that it will come up with a bug report, currently sitting unresponsive. CHV, not OS. OS is fine and will allow me to kill CHV process if I desire.

EDIT: I had forgotten to set FSAA to application controlled in ATI CCC. Logging back in now with corrected setting.

EDIT2: Lockup did not reoccur. That'll need to be notated....

Are you unable to install the 10.3 Catalysts directly from ATI's site rather than using Asus'?

Just ran two more missions. I generally sit between 80 and 90% fury, almost never going past 90%. Moving between spawns, I'll drop to 60% fury. I'm back up to 80% before the first baddie hits the floor.

I can conservatively state that on this level 24, now 25, character, using energy melee, while in combat my average fury is 80%, perhaps even 85%.

Therefore: My brutes win.

Gee whiz, Arcanaville, it almost seems like you're stating that the base equation in use that calculates the amount of end a power uses on its recharge time needs to be tweaked.

You've already seen why your suggestion fails: It screws those that don't have it yet and want to get it for free. It's a waste of developer time. It will annoy a great many people.

Being able to buy a perk that lets us skip boxing/kick and get tough/weave is as stupid as buying a pack to get stamina without taking swift or hurdle and health.

Would I buy those packs? Hell yes. That doesn't mean it's not a stupid suggestion.