Bad_Influence

YOU WERE THERE with me during my solo mission, and saw everything that went down? AWESOME! Is that a temp power? Can I purchase it in the NCSoft store?

...and yeah, sorry guy but Trappy did indeed one-shot my Def several times with whatever it is he uses as his main melee strike. This is why my squishys dislike fighting him in close range.

If you have not been the victim of the Trappy one-shot, lucky for you. Your not having seen it does not mean it doesn't exist.

Smart pullers pull minions, not the boss, with the possible exception of Rommy. I considered this to be so well known that there was no need to break it down further, but there you have it: when I talk about pulling, I am pulling minions not the boss. Unless I am talking about Rommy. OR, if the only thing present IS bosses, such as the final mission of the LRSF under the globe.


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Let me parse this for those who find it confusing: "All this is academic to me, because I won't be running anyone else through this for a good long while. For which I feel great relief" means that all of my current level 50s whom I am interested in making Incarnate, have already been run through the arc. I won't be facing Trappy alone again anytime soon, and for that I am thankful.

Of course by then, who knows what this arc will look like, but right now its academic to me. What concerns me is this idea that somehow, seperating the boss from his minions is eEEEEeee-vil. Uh... no. We've been doing it for years.

The problem here is that you are talking as if pulling Trappy into the control room nullifies all his powers. Haha, not so fast: he has that one-shot melee power that seems to have a 100% chance to hit. It certainly hit my Defender and it hit him good. Multiple times.

Also, once again your reasoning is wrong: if the developers intended Trappy to be fought with all his clones up, we would not be able to kill them. See what I did there? OK Trappy is ranged AND melee. If you forget that he will be happy to remind you.

All this is academic to me, because I won't be running anyone else through this for a good long while. For which I feel great relief.

I should not even have to explain this.... smart pullers never target the boss, they target the minions, kill them one by one and then they take down the boss. If the boss comes along that is one thing, but the boss is never the intent of the pull. Except perhaps for Rommy.

Good gravy, what next. Claims that killing the towers one by one in the STF is "an exploit" because the developers intended Recluse to be fought with them all up? They must have, after all he is in range of the towers and so taking the towers out is "an exploit!!1!!11"

Massive eye-roll here.

Why is it ok for us to pull Rommy away from his pets, but wrong to pull Trappy away from his? Is it wrong to separate the Freedom Phalanx from each other in the STF [IF you can, and that is a big if, I will agree]? Is it wrong to kill the mitos before you take down Hamidon? Is this a slippery slope we really want to slide down? Guess so. *shrug*

There were no pets on the map other than Dark Servant when I saw this: my Dark/Dark Defender was simply overwhelmed, because as fast as he killed the bifurcations, another would spawn. A Defender does not have the shielding to take being pounded on by both Trapdoor and all of these bifurcations; not to mention that Trappy can one-shot a squishy without even blinking. He has a version of Total Focus [? or something really similar] that killed my Defender with one shot several times. First I tried killingthe bifurcations, that actually made things worse. Then I tried pulling him into the control room and he would just run up and one-shot me.

Trying again with Servant dismissed had no noticeable effect. The next pet Trappy saw was a Shivan - and that settled the encounter nicely, no questions asked. There's "challenge" and then there's "just plain silly," the whole thing struck me as option B.

My /energy Dom however went in and mopped the floor with him due to KBing him all over the map. I am looking for him to become resistant or outright immune to both KB and fire damage soon. I just have a feeling that is how this is gonna end up.

On many maps, the boss/AV is surrounded by a group of lesser NPCs. Since that boss is in the midst of a group, its safe to assume that the developers intend that he be fought... in the midst of that group.

And then on the eighth day, God I mean the developers created many and various SNIPE tools, so that that very dangerous boss can be removed from his group of supporters and defeated alone. The "pull" is a standard gaming tactic, and intimating that it is an "exploit" makes me laugh out loud.

If pulling Trapdoor away from his minions is bad, then *all* pulling of bosses away from their minions is bad, its an "exploit" and needs to be stopped ASAP!

I hope you can see how extremely silly such a supposition is.

Trapdoor is not a special snowflake, he does not deserve such extreme protection and I think his being protected in such a fashion is silly. Not to mention dangerous, because we don't want the developers getting the idea that pulling is bad.

Unless we're Nalrok, I guess. Who knows.

In all deadly seriousness I ask, then what are they? Because right now, squishys are being asked to stand toe-to-toe with Trappy and have not only him hitting them with everything he has, but all of his bifurcations hitting them too... and remember, the faster you kill them the faster he spawns them [Or so it seems to me]. All this on top of his killer +regen. If your squishy does not have KB to deal with him, you're sorta, well... doomed.

Now that's a recipe for success! /endsarcasm

The problem is that killing the bifurcations means that he INSTANTLY respawns them, and they seem to respawn faster the faster you kill them.

Thank you God that you are not on the development team. They're bad enough, we don't need your mindset infiltrating them.

If tactics that involve the use of tools equals "exploit," I expect to see the following things removed from the game ASAP:

*all inspirations
*all snipe tools, including the Blackwand and Nemesis Staff
*shivans
*nukes
*Vanguard HVAS
*PvP zone heavies
*...and really, enhancements.

At the bottom of your slippery slope is the notion that ANYthing that helps you win a fight is a cheat, and therefore an exploit. Good luck with that line of reasoning.

...until they make him immune to Fire damage.

That will be next.

I say lets go whole hog: let's disable shivans and nukes. Disable all Holds, KB and Immobs. He should be completely immune to Smashing and Lethal damage, and he should also spawn those Blue-Light-Specials-O'-Death like Battle Maiden does.

You want challenge, I say give it to you. Meanwhile I think all of my people who are going to be Incarnate have already done this arc, and for that I give a big "Thank you, God."

No one expects enemies not to grow in power. What vastly annoys players are cheats.

An unresistable nuke spammed endlessly [Battle Maiden] is a cheat. Sorry. Its a cheat when it can spawn in three dimensions, so if you fly underneath it it will still kill you. It's a CHEAT when I cant even fire off certain attacks because the animation freezes me in place and I'll get blue-light-specialled to death.... and so all we can ever do is kite an ARCH VILLAIN. That'll overcome her +regen, you bet...!

I'll be running these two Tfs once each to get the badge, and then they will never see me again. I am glad a few of you are sticking up for this ridiculous content. Me, I'm back to the ITF and that's where I will stay.... I call epic fail. It was all good till the final mission - and then things fell apart like a Cold War era Soviet spacecraft falling back to earth.... with the Cosmonauts still in it.

Amd last but not least, this mind-boggling statement:

If I wanted to be playing a regular person, I would be over in The Sims or some game like that. I am here, in this game to be a metahuman.

RoF is far from a "terrible power." Its a great power, best pulled out on teams when things get a bit too intense. NPCs flee, giving everyone a much needed breather. Its like a mini-Bonfire.

It does not always hit. It only hit one of my people once; but once was enough to get me to drop the mission from then on. I just don't find being forced to wait around for what feels like 99 forevers, fun.

Mileage will vary, of course.

If a shard drops, everyone on the team should get one, not just the resident goof-off. Sicne shards cannot be sold or traded, this would hurt other people exactly how...? It would certainly be more incentive to team.

We already have to endure the so-called "random number generator" with everything else: salvage, rare recipies, the works. I'm a little tired of having to endure it one more time, since as I've said several times before, IT SEEMS ANYTHING BUT RANDOM.

What seems to be going on is that the number generator actually picks one person to get the lion's share of incarnate stuff, not only for one mission but for the entire TF. Yeah.... I'm enthused. *flat affect*

One more time: the person working the least getting the lion's share of the incarnate drops is not "fair." Nothing random about it.

No one, least of all me, posted about how everyone on the team should get an equal amount of Incarnate drops, although that would certain be both very nice and a lot more fair.

What irks me is leeches coming out of a TF with 7-8 shards, more than double everyone else. I don't like it. If you don't like that I don't like it, sorry but we'll have to keep disagreeing.

That attitude is getting you nowhere with me, sorry. If you dislike my posts, you know what to do. You are not constructive, not even polite.

Cya.

I have to agree with at least this part, since so far from what I have seen the most shards go to the person on the team who is doing the LEAST.

One person - and a person doing almost nothing, to boot - should NOT get the lion's share of shards on any given TF. Sorry, that's how I see it.

One player collecting all the loot on a team is the furthest thing from "random" in my book.

One mission as a level 5 is still far too long! ha

My tastes have evolved: at one time level 5 was interesting and exciting as I tried to get across Mercy with my little Dom. I've done that a million times now though, and have no compunctions about hitting Fast Forward.

BZZT! Wrong on both counts. I level alts quickly in the AE because 1. I'm entitled - YES! ENTITLED! to get at the "sweet, sweet candy" in a timely fashion, because I have paid my dues with this game. I have been here since 2006 and already know how to play, and am pretty familiar with both sides of the game. If you do not agree, I am sorry but we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

2. Has nothing to do with "showing that [I] am better, more clever etc" than the developer, or better than anyone. What it SHOWS is that the lower levels are not all that fun to me. They'll be more fun with inherent Stamina, true, but I don't find level 5 all that scintillating.

This is a problem for you that is far larger than the AE building, gotta tell ya.

So... everyone who does not find level 5 scintillating excitement is "lazy, greedy and selfish." Wow. OK.

Trapdoor can also one-shot with the best of 'em. He is REALLY resistant to Char, too. If it hits it wears off in about 15 seconds.

I think one thing that annoys me about all this is that some ATs can do all this, no problem. Others.... it don't matter what you bring, blues, purples, temp powers.... you have no chance whatsoever, doesn't matter if you run it one time or fifty times - you're not going to be able to complete it. This can be a big problem on servers with low redside populations.

It is missing you. It sure didn't miss my IO-ed out Bane, and it reduced his blue bar to nothing and kept it there until I finally gave up and exited.

When it hits you you will know, believe me. It doesn't care about your recovery, it will slurp that down like a fine wine no matter what it is, and there you are, virtually naked.

Big fun

I am glad this is working out for you, but as someone who has so far always been in the 0-2 shards category, you perhaps can understand my ire.

My annoyance would be less if someone working hard were collecting the 7-8 shards, but no. Its always someone hanging around doing nothing except making sexual puns, acting as a non-hosping area rug, etc. That sort of grinds my gears.

This may seems snippy, but seriously... do you not think I TRIED using blues? I'm not an idiot. I have been in this game since 2006. I would have needed to enter the mission with FIFTY blues to overcome that. 50 probably would not have been enough; this is a serious debuff.

If my endurance is gone, I can't fight. That's it. Especially with wave after wave of ambushes on TOP of an eb/av. Whoever thought this mission up needs a serious kick to the shins.