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Quote:Well, something I forgot to add was that it was confirmed that powerboost would not effect self-buff armor toggles and such.Originally Posted by Xilibrius
I'm on board with some of these i still personally think that Blinding Powder works just fine.
Though with power boost it'd more or less just being a bastardized version of shadow meld since it would boost your defensive values for 15 seconds not much else would really get enough of a benefit from this since not alot of scrapper primaries have any enhanceable secondary effect.
i could do without the ninja quikness since thats basically just a rehashed quickness/mental training/lightning reflexes.
And actually it's not a clone of SR, mental training, and lightning reflexes, those do not give jump bonuses and also buff recharge rate. -
Quote:Yes it has.Originally Posted by Xilibrius
I'm sure this has probably already been suggested before but i think this would make a fine addition for scrappers with very minor retooling.
And considering some of the forethought that did need to be put into it, it would take more than just a little bit of minor retooling.
For the sake of redundancy and since I'm here anyway... (And you know, to update it anyway)
Quote:Originally Posted by AzureSkyCielOverall, four of the nine powers would not work well or at all for scrappers, these powers are:
Hide (No ability to make use of AS's)
Caltrops (We can get that as an APP, albeit much later)
Smoke Flash (Uhhh... Placate's not something for scrappers and their role)
Blinding Powder (This might work but it might not be appropriate)
Now here's my idea for four powers to replace them-
Kannon-Gakure (Name pending): Self +Stealth, +Def (all)
Well, as a ninja themed powerset it should have some kind of stealth power, but in this case it works closer to Cloaking Device from Blaster's Devices set, Cloak of Shadows from Scrapper's Dark Armor, or Energy Cloak from Brute's Energy Aura, so it provides a very modest defense buff and eats endurance since it's not vital.
Ninja Quickness: Self +RunSpeed, +FlightSpeed, +JumpSpeed, +JumpHeight, +res (slow)
Originally this was quickness but it did seem a little broken, so here's something somewhat useful and yet still a bit useless at the same time. I felt this would make nice counterpoint to the villainous Ninjutsu's location AoE debuff.
Smoke Bomb: Foe -Perception, -ToHit
Basically it's Smoke Grenade from the Widow set, I felt that this also made a great substitute for Smoke Flash by cramming a little something to stack with the defense buffs as well as the stealth, not only that but as a debuff to perception and tohit you would be lending a hand to the squishies on your team (Who would hopefully remain outside of your foe's now limited perception) as well as cause a few enemy attacks to whiff your fellow frontliners making you not just a lone ninja, but bringing you in as a team player!
Kuji-In Jin: Self +Special
Basically, it's Power Boost from the Blaster's Energy Manipulation secondary, the numbers may need to be nerfed in order to keep things balanced, I'm also not sure if this boosts debuffs. -
Quote:cottage rule on the tier one, bro. They can slot for stun with their MA, katana cannot be slotted for stun.Originally Posted by DLancer
Personally, I think that the teir 1 ninjas should get the Katana set instead of MA, the teir 2 should be Dual Blades, and the teir 3 should be some sort of ninja master with archery/trick arrow and possibly some sort of fire bomb ability.
They could all use their defense being buffed tremendously and also new outfits all around.
And an Archery/TA feels like it wouldn't work with the whole ninja thing. (neverminding the MM them self who can get TA) -
Quote:... but the former part GAVE us more options about power choices since, all things considered, Fitness picks are bland, uninteresting, boring, but NEEDED for MAJORITY OF BUILDS, which in effect, forced those of us that wanted to focus more on damage, recharge, control, etc. etc. to pick them.Originally Posted by Acroyear2
So first the Devs tell the players that they must have the Fitness power pool on all of their characters whether they want them or not. Now they ban certain Temp Powers from the CoP Trial. I sure miss the days where I, the player, had the ability to make the choice of what powers my characters could have and where and when I could use them.
Nothing says "fun" like having your freedom of choice taken away from you. -
Quote:So, you think he's ruled out the possibility of a bioshock/Rapture style underwater zone on the principle that you wouldn't REALLY be underwater?Originally Posted by Lothic
Somehow I suspect BAB has put even more thought into this... which likely led him to make the reasonable decision that doing an underwater zone is ultimately not worth the obvious hassle and controversy it's generating here.
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Quote:"I am Iron Man..."Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
I give you, the Person Below Me, the new Powersets Metal Armor and Metal Melee.
Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all?
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he live or dead?
Has he any thoughts within his head?
We'll just pass him there
Why should we even care?
He was turned to steel
In the great magnetic field
When he traveled time
For the future of mankind
Nobody wants him
He just stares at the world
planning his vengeance
That he will soon unfold
Now the time is here
For Iron Man to spread fear
Vengeance from the grave
Kills the people he once saved
Nobody wants him
they just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
Now he has his revenge
Heavy boots of lead
Fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast they can
IRON MAN LIVES AGAIN!
tl;dr: Your freakin' metal armor and melee turned me into one of those statues in Atlas Park, so once I regained my mobility, I would KILL YOU.
For the Poster below me, I give the poster below me all the bioshock plasmids (fully empowered), weapons (fully upgraded), and their own Big Daddy or Big Sister Suit.
Have fun! -
Quote:Yep, I know war walkers do that, and siege, and you know what?Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Heh multiple missile attacks is nothing.
One of them goes all GDI on your backside and calls in an Ion Cannon strike!
I don't even bother to move out of the targeted area on my /sr scrapper. I've dodged three Orbital lance blasts at once thanks to siege being a b@#$% and constantly running away. -
So I was playing the new Maria Jenkins arc with friend a few nights back when we got to fighting the IDF. Towards the end it was down to the two of us and one orange conning Heavy Trooper Lt. class enemy when HE SHOOTS MULTIPLE MISSILE SWARMS AT ME!
Okay, while that might not sound so weird, given his name and Praetoria's tech levels, also I should point out that his shoulders were no different from the other troopers, or TEST in the 1-20 stuff, nor did his breast panels flip open.
Taking a closer look, these missiles appeared half a foot away from his shoulders and fired like he had some kind of gateway to a dimension of infinite RAWKETS mounted on his shoulders (which is pretty ridiculous, considering Praetoria's still just getting the hang of Portal Tech), it all left me with my eyes like this: (o.o) and wondering WHEN CAN WE DO THAT?!
Edit: While the upgraded assault bot is close, I'd still like to know when we ourselves can fire rockets from or shoulders... But mostly this is about the WTF factor of it all. -
Quote:I see... so this is why everyone looks at my blaster like she's crazy.Originally Posted by Crime_of_Fashion
No worries, I did my masters thesis on this very topic about a decade ago. Essentially how the occupation and war defeat changed the Japanese nation psyche and how that impacted on later strategic thinking. Just when I see someones got the wrong idea (probably through no fault of their own), the educator in me comes out.
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Great ideas, Steel! I've always felt Spanky's boardwalk's a little underused and underdeveloped looking.
I thought I might repost something on instanced maps from This semi-art related thread
Quote:Also, I cast thread Necromancy.Originally Posted by AzureSkyCielI disagree, I think you can make things normal but still interesting. You just have to realize that the labyrinthine nature needs to come from the villains who are raiding/held up in a place and not it's inherent design.Quote:Originally Posted by MacOberon
Oh and yeah, offices look like they have been designed by a Rikti on crack, but I like that. Can you imagine how boring it'd be if all maps were predictably regular? Ew.
For example, consider some of the examples I gave for different means of climbing the floors of a building instead of just the standard elevator alone earlier in this thread:
In this effect, you gain a layer of complexity by finding different means to climb levels, the idea being that when you start going up one way, the badguys will do something to halt your progress going up further.Quote:Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
... Things could be used like large air ducts, windows to the fire escape, stairwells, maintenance, and even scaling up ladders in empty elevator shafts.
Then you could throw in destroyable (or in rare cases, indestructible barricades) either with portable force/repulsion field generators from the black market, desks, chairs, cubicle walls, and ripped off doors piled up and nailed together in crude barriers, and even portable defensive turrets to deter people from going a certain path.
Now while not adding complexity to a map's navigation I did post an idea to make generic maps like warehouses and so forth have a bit more flavor.
With all of these things, I think it would be possible to make realistic office buildings seem like quite a setting worthy of an epic battle. -
Quote:Ahhh... I see. I believe I've misread something somewhere... Severely.Originally Posted by Crime_of_Fashion
You have this quite wrong unless your not baseing it on real history. Japan's constitution prevents the right of the nation to go to war and wage war (Article Nine). They have a self defence force for defence of the homeland and it is very well equipped however.
While a review of this anti war article occurred in 2007 no major changes have happened.
Oh, and the article is self imposed. The US wanted Japan to rearm and militarize as soon as the Korean War started.
The full article below, translated into English
"ARTICLE 9. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. (2) To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized." -
Quote:Maybe it's because it's a bit closer on what I designed, but I kind of like the first one better as feeling a bit more "ninja"-ish. And I know how you might feel about the reaper's mask, but it's sadly the only way I've seen to simulate something like a large scarf that also conceals the cape's anchor point.Originally Posted by Leo_G
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While I can agree and understand this, part of me feels that it almost seems Arachnos is actually incompetent partly BECAUSE of this.
They spend so much energy just trying to hold it together, a lot of their schemes end up being 'all or nothing'.
But, in truth that could be said about all villain groups, indeed, Lord Nemesis can be appreciated for having apparent secondary objectives he can accomplish when the big prize falls through. (Or is it a primary objective for when his secondary falls through?)
Though the other big thing is a lack of game play and story segregation. the Knives of Artemis, for example, isn't supposed to have maybe more than a couple hundred members, but at least half of that is defeated EVERY KoA centric mission with no sign that they use some kind of hospital teleport. And the same could be said about Malta, or Council, or Circle of Thorns (who apparently were demi-gods prior to the Mu-Oranbegan war, if the fluff is to be believed), or countless others. -
Quote:Thanks. I imagine claws or straight MA or even katana or dual blades could work decently as well. I mean redraw doesn't seem to be much an issue for the existing Oni. However I kind of figured it might be best to make use of some of the new powers and fit the kind of mystical aspects that, if I recall, tend to follow the kunoichi a bit more than the standard male ninja.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Hmm... A girl ninja-wizard. I like. I like. I guess that's a good alternative to Ken Ogawa, the one man army of destruction who can land a plane with his bare hands. I guess Kinetic Melee is a thematic fit for such a Mastermind, and the fact that she's a girl ought to stand out enough.
This I could get behind.
(Though this may be a bit born from old sexist views that if a female ninja can be as effective if not more than a male, surely some kind of magic is involved. Mostly likely of the black variety! Besides, that kunoichi turned me into a newt!)
Well, the costume was a bit of a rough draft and I can see your point since, lord knows, I was going for a bit more of the fantastic as in the response to Sam. And as I recall, kunoichi would indeed sometimes play the seductress to loosen tongues (if you know what I mean) before cutting them off.(D: ) but to be honest, I was a bit disappointed with how the bottom half came out and it made me really wish we could have long skirts for the first time in a long time, just to demonstrate what I was seeing in my head.Quote:Originally Posted by Leo_G
Nice costume, ASC, but....
As much as I hate the way this will make me sound, but, she isn't showing enough skin >_>
I think using the shorter shorts option might give you something to use with the legs. The first costume is a good starting point but the 1st upgrade would look more stylized, agile and feminine with some leg.
NO! AS SOMEONE WITH MINOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, I COMMAND YOU TO POST A PICTURE OF THE CHARACTER OR I WILL SUE YOU FOR... ONE MIIIIILLION INFLUENCE!Quote:Originally Posted by Leo_G
am moving on to my DB/Nin stalker and I think I'll steal that costume (modified of course) for her base 'natural' costume.
I guess I'll post a picture if I like the results
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Well, in order to breath a bit of new life into this thread on the actual (and the original subject of a replacement for the oni) beyond the topic of buffing ninja.
As mentioned, it would not be breaking the cottage rule to replace a pet, as long as the pet had the same base function (which for pets in of themselves is hazy) and had powers that would accept the same enhancement types.
So I give you a more detailed look at the idea of replacing the Oni with a Kunoichi. (forgive the sloppy edit jobs and praetorian background. (But when you're working with mostly dark colors the other two are difficult)
Kunoichi: You can call a single Kunoichi to aid you in battle, a kunoichi is a highly skilled female ninja with mastery over shadows, illusion, poison, and martial arts. You may have only 1 Kunoichi under your control at a time, if you attempt to summon another one, it will fail.
Recharge: Very Long (2 min)
Minimum level: 26
Effects: Summon Kunoichi
Basic Powers:
-Resistances (21% defense to Melee, Ranged, AoE, and Psionic at lvl 50, 26.14% resistance to Toxic and Psionic at lvl 50, 50% Resisance to Confuse, 4.0 Confusion Protection, -400% taunt duration, +50% run speed)
-Body Blow (kinetic melee)
-Spectral Wounds (Illusion control)
-Alkaloid (Poison)
Train Powers:
-Quick Strike (Kinetic Melee)
-Crush (Gravity Control)*
-Repulsing Torrent (Kinetic Melee)
(Tropes Splash of Color and Sleeves are for Wimps invoked!)
Equip Powers:
-Blind (Illusion)
-Weaken (Poison)**
-Shadow Fall (Dark Miasma)
(Front)
(Back, to show it's not just any cape but the single shoulder cape)
*Sorry, it was hard to figure out a thematically fitting immobilize power. I had considered Tenebrous Tentacles or Web Grenade, but the former kind of stepped on the toes of the lich too much and web grenade didn't do any damage.
**While not giving direct mez protection, this does weaken an enemy's control durations, the only power I know of that does so, plus to give her a nasty hurty poison.
Also, the appearances, like a lot of this post, is all basically one use rough idea. I know her appearance might piss some folks off as not being true to historical kunoichi, or maybe being too boring, etc. etc. But this was something I was throwing together in a couple minutes. -
Quote:I like it, it sounds pretty cool, really.Originally Posted by Wolfram
I've had to do a bit of interpretation on the Paragon Police Department, due to roleplaying one of its officers.
The main liberty I've taken is the CCA Relations Division. This is a division within the PPD whose job is to maintain communication between the PPD and the city's heroes. They keep track of which heroes work well with the police and which don't, and accept and file official reports as and when heroes choose to submit them. If a PPD detective decides he wants hero assistance on a case, it's CCA Relations that finds it for him. If a hero supergroup assigns someone as its official liaison to the PPD, that person reports to CCA Relations. The division doesn't have anything to do with auditing or regulating heroes (which I believe is the FBSA's job, though I could be wrong).
The CCA Relations Division's staff includes Lieutenant Barry West, Sergeant Douglas Wong, and Detective Jennifer Sula (MIA).
There are two problems. First, the CCA Relations Division is not mentioned anywhere and is entirely a player invention. Second, I just can't get the name right. I've tried a variety of titles, none of which really sound right. "CCA (Citizen Crimefighting Act) Relations" seems official-sounding enough, but I'm still not happy with it.
Why did I create such a thing? It just seems like something that would have to exist. Paragon is full of heroes, running around doing their own thing. Someone in the PPD has to be trying to make sure the heroes and the police are complementing each other, not getting in each other's way. Not to mention that heroes are going to generate a lot of paperwork for the PPD, and someone has to take care of it.
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Quote:Well, the Oni does have the resistances in standard quantifications of most other MM pets as well as might-as-well-not-even-be-there defenses.Originally Posted by Baba_Kanoosh
I must be doing something wrong. I have had a lvl 50 ninja/ta for a few years and he mostly sits in dust as I grow weary of respawning dead ninjas. The oni stands strong. Maybe slotting, maybe syle of play (I slot TA for max debuff and the pets, well damage mainly I think a few of the pet procs are in there somewhere...) but it just didn't hit it off for me. Only reason he is still around is his costume and concept I loved too much to let go.
Generally I see the Genin and jounin having the biggest trouble since they are purely reliant on their defenses. -
Quote:So I take it your parents do not approve?Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Of course I'm not!
...NOT a crazed gunman, an assassin damnit!
Well the difference is one's a job and the others mental sickness!
Sheesh... -
Quote:Well, another good thing is that part of why I started this thread was to get a better idea of people who would find some of my own views unreasonable, thus, if we do ever end up RPing together (and you seem like a cool guy, so it would sound neat) I know not to bring that kind of thing up. (It's what I end up doing a lot anyway. I'm part of an RP group already and to be honest... No one seems to think such a theory is very valid...)Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
That's all well and good, but that only work until your version of events runs up against what Mr Stupendous thinks might have happend, or what Superawesome Girl's take on the world as they know it is.
Thing is, RP in this game is a shared world. We can easily- fairly easily RP in Paragon (where there are no holes in canon, that is) because we all know what happens here.
We don't get any information about the rest of the world. So, really, it's safest to simply go with what we know as fact. Mostly the past, general locations of stuff.
Individual trips out to do stuff around the globe tend to work ok, as you can generally work under the assumption of not bumping into anyone in your own fiction. But trying to say that Tokyo is actually patrolled by giant robots and the Japanese began to clone dinosaurs simply doesn't cut it, because thats godmoding the world itself. Unless everyone agreed on it, theres no way it could happen.
And its less people RPing that the world outside the City has nothing interesting happening, but more that the stuff in Paragon and the Rogue Isles is altogther a lot closer and more imminent. -
I think this is the true weakness of suggestions and ideas threads...
When we encounter a good one we can reach a consensus on, there's really not much else about the idea to discuss. -
Quote:One thing I will admit that was truly fishy about the clone was that SOMEONE had to have done those things that would have gotten those charges put on you, and then along comes this clone, who while talking about being the good guy, is working with Malta (possibly not seen if your settings aren't high enough) so... Yeah, I'm honestly not sure what to make of that.Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
well, on my take it seemed disjointed because i had stomped blade pretty handily on the top o the stair landing, so what i saw onscreen was not what was going on. but here is how i saw it, rian and silent blade fought, rian(a scrapper, not relevant to the story but it fit the situation) demolished her in a stand up fight, she fell back to talk to him(my memory of the dialogue is a bit fuzzy) but she largely makes impotent threats about how she will fulfill her contract, nice talk but too beaten down to take action. He's planning on just cuffing her and getting a pizza or 5.
all of a sudden, a guy who looks like rian comes bolting in the door, rian runs to face him. she, a character skilled at hiding and hitting from the shadows. waits till rian and a self that looks like rian and shares his skills fight at full force, two high level martial artists clash and punishing strikes are given and received. rian wins but is winded, he doesnt notice her, but she figures out from the dialogue who the real deal is, and drops alterna rian, who as the fight has shown, is weaker than hero rian, and then bolts. rian's still heroic, she just did what stalkers do and hit a weakened prey from out of nowhere, and rian, was still collecting his breath after 2 fights. Even a dragon is only human. and she got away with a cheap shot.
one side funny note for me is that the idea that all these clones are running around is that many of my characters are mystical robotic or unique creatures that would seem to be too strange to be cloned by normal procedures. i know that in making those characters i hopped over canon and cant complain, but cloning an angel or a robot seems kinda funny from my perspective.
On the second point, one personal theory of mine is that what really makes these clones "different" from just any clone, at least the ones in the Dark Mirror arc, is that they're actually made from some kind of raw, conceptual, multi-dimensional energy that's synched to your character.
Sort of like what Reichsman was doing, only instead of just siphoning power into one, it was used to generate a clone. This allowed the clones to be completely unrestricted by biological and mystical boundaries and literally create an exact copy with all supplies and abilities out of effectively nothing. -
@Catus Brawler and Techbot:
Well, that doesn't mean anything for YOUR toons. This is about what your outlook on the rest of the world and your takes on what's presented to us.
Mostly I brought up mine as examples and to keep the first post from feeling too short.
Another reason why I like to try to think about what's going on in the outside world beyond the Isles and Paragon and such is because we're clearly presented with heroes and villains from all corners of the globe, in-game backstory tells about global events that metahumans were involved in.
But a lot of times, I see people tending to RP as though NOTHING out of the ordinary (except possibly themselves) EVER happens or happened outside of Paragon or the Isles of interest. -
Marian Sussanna then stepped into the D, her amazing and unique powers of being able to see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Believe its Not Butter unaffected by the normal protections of Pocket D.
((Did I step over the "Just god modding" line?)) -
Quote:My samurai character highly resents that remark.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Any system based on power being in the hands of someone because of who their ancestors were rather than because the people chose them is not only inherently stupid - it's inherently wrong too
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Quote:She won't acknowledge it Ben. She also fails to acknowledge heroes in City of do indeed kill people. Tarantula units (they explode with the pilot inside), Warhulks (explode with the person inside leaving no sign of the body unlike Sky Skiffs), Fake Nemesis' (they have real brains inside of them, plus at the end of the Eternal Nemesis arc, you were kind of sent to kill Nemesis), Malta titans, and possibly the floaty Arachnos Drones, specifically the coordinators since Marshal Brass has mentioned Arbiter drones use human heads, not a stretch to imagine the less important versions don't do the same.Originally Posted by BenRGamer
Not to go into too much detail... you do know that America has supported alot of dictatorships, right?
Steam, Ben, it's as said earlier, convincing Golden Girl she's wrong about ANYTHING is harder than changing the current of the Nile through logical discourse.
So let's get onto something of a related but unrelated topic.
Like how well do you think life outside the Sonic Fences does? I'm planning an AE arc here in my head.