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'FREEM!' maybe? seems pretty opposite to d00m.

the 672mb patch is the pre-download it's just verifying and applying the patch

well they are doing Maint and messing about with things i'm sure it will correct itself soon. Why are you going to login anyway? xD wishful thinking?

I think it more likely they'll turn it on about midnight if they were going to be nice maybe it'll be just i18 after the maint? and then GR content after.

aww shame it might have been mildly entertaining to watch Cole being force choked.

I think it very much depends on my mood and that of the team whether I ghost or not. If i just want to get it done and move on to something else then i will ghost it. If i'm not particularly fussed and just want a relaxed run through then i'll clear everything.

Mostly it's on teams i enjoy and that can carry a conversation that i won't ghost and move on. At least things are kept fresh and entertaining while your socialising rather than mindlessly clicking away to clear a mob with nothing else to do.

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But superwomen also need to go fast

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Go make me a supersandwich.

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Rofl! this made me nearly spit my drink when i read it
I hope she comes back with a good one, defend the female species.

I'm glad they've increased the speed, never found Hover very manoeuvrable at the best of times.

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To everyone saying we EU players never get into Close Beta...

Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!

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lol! *get's the eggs to fry on their red faces*

Fried egg anyone?

Possibilty of Photoshop: 80%?

Welcome Avatea I'm waiting for the penny to drop as i don't think you know what you've let yourself in for

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Is that so? Well one thing did happen. I cannot log normally on anymore and have to log on without checking for updates. Probably coincidence but I am not certain that the devs are trying to solve that. Could be I worry to much we will see.

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There's no evidence that has anything to do with this. Also if i remember rightly the fixes are done in America anyway and then rolled out over here. So it matters not either way.

I agree with Myopic. The day to day running of the game is not affected so far and clearly NC can't say anything yet for one reason or another or they would have done it already.

There is no point worrying about something which you have no control over. i'm sure we'll know when they are able to tell us, until then the 'We have a right to know posts' are a little pointless.

have you tried the /stuck and /sync commands? maybe you just logged in weird.

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fixed :V

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lies >.>

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Except for Freedumb.

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It never ceases to amaze me how people can judge an entire server population on the actions of a small minority. I'm sure they're are quite a few dedicated and intelligent players on Freedom.

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So you're forming a judgement without any first hand experience at all?

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Well unless your suggesting they have taken every CoX player classified as Dumb by some peoples obvious judgements and placed them in Freedom and then put a bar on it too all intelligent people. Then yes i am.

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Except for Freedumb.

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It never ceases to amaze me how people can judge an entire server population on the actions of a small minority. I'm sure they're are quite a few dedicated and intelligent players on Freedom.

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I just looked at the page about NC Soft values and so I'm now certain that they'll talk to us as soon as possible.

BTW - I thought it's been mentioned that there were some US positions affected - did anyone find a linky about staff losses over there?

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I really don't understand why they'd offer jobs in America to the people in Brighton if they were going to cut jobs in America as well. It's morally dubious imo, unless they really didn't think anyone from Brighton would realistically choose to have a job in America.

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so i ask u this If u were a PvP hardcorer (or even softcorer) would u be happy with they way that they (Castle in particular) treated this.

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I don't think we should turn this into a 'i hate the PvP changes thread'. To be honest i'm not a Pvp'er, i dabble now and then but not to an extent that i would say it part of my gaming life. However i did play enough before and after to notice the changes. To be honest i felt that they'd tried to make it more equal and accessible for all rather than those top few who would just blitz everyone and make it less fun for others, especially new people.

What people have to remember is this isn't City of Veterans. It has to cater to new people too and obviously they felt that PvP didn't, as i did when i first started it.

As i previously stated i find the fact of creating a ton of bugs then not fixing half of them until i14 far more negligent than anything they did to PvP.

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again another person who reads what they want to read (it isnt an i hate pvp thread) what im actually digging at therer is Castle and his communist PR skills (not the dire mess that PvP is in) one thing that is fairly certain a lot dropped off becoz of the pvp mess.

and the not fixing of bugs are just as much a problem as the mess of pvp (both are terrible and BOTH will put subscribers off (meaning bugs will put some off pvp will put others off))

What is indiputable is i13 has been an epic failure (as is my speeling)

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No thankyou, i read what i see and what i actually meant was i didn't think that this thread should be turned into an 'i hate the PvP changes' thread which is what so often happens when this is mentioned.

I also think people are giving the PvP changes far too much weight in what's happening now. Fact remains some were going to like the changes and some were not. The small proportion that actually would of left is insignificant imo and could have easily been evened out by new people joining and old people returning for i13, which i saw quite a few of in game.

Imho if someones going to throw a hissy fit over a few PvP changes which accounts for a small part of the game then we didn't need them here anyway. There is a whole load more to do in game to have fun with. if they really wanted to make a point they could have stayed and put their point across rather than leaving in some sort of false martyrdom.

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the only one turn this into a PVP debate is you

I mainly implied that Castle and his epic 1337 skillz at PR caused a alot of pvpers to leave.. i sorry but arrogant beligerent we do what we want and sod the rest of u attitude whihc is what he did cost the game a heck of a lot on subs (including some albeit not as many as pvpers)

you can not deny he has had a big part in the fall of subs

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I'm not debating the PvP changes, I'm debating whether or not they had a large negative effect on the subscription base as you suggest. Regardless of how Castle handled it as i have already said, you were either going to like them or hate them. Bit like marmite in that respect.

With all due respect Castle is answerable to other people and if he is told to make some changes to make the system fair to both new and old players and all AT's, then he has to go make those changes and there is nothing you, i or anyone else can do about it. Maybe he did deal with the PR wrongly but in his defence some people were never going to like it anyway.

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so i ask u this If u were a PvP hardcorer (or even softcorer) would u be happy with they way that they (Castle in particular) treated this.

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I don't think we should turn this into a 'i hate the PvP changes thread'. To be honest i'm not a Pvp'er, i dabble now and then but not to an extent that i would say it part of my gaming life. However i did play enough before and after to notice the changes. To be honest i felt that they'd tried to make it more equal and accessible for all rather than those top few who would just blitz everyone and make it less fun for others, especially new people.

What people have to remember is this isn't City of Veterans. It has to cater to new people too and obviously they felt that PvP didn't, as i did when i first started it.

As i previously stated i find the fact of creating a ton of bugs then not fixing half of them until i14 far more negligent than anything they did to PvP.

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again another person who reads what they want to read (it isnt an i hate pvp thread) what im actually digging at therer is Castle and his communist PR skills (not the dire mess that PvP is in) one thing that is fairly certain a lot dropped off becoz of the pvp mess.

and the not fixing of bugs are just as much a problem as the mess of pvp (both are terrible and BOTH will put subscribers off (meaning bugs will put some off pvp will put others off))

What is indiputable is i13 has been an epic failure (as is my speeling)

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No thankyou, i read what i see and what i actually meant was i didn't think that this thread should be turned into an 'i hate the PvP changes' thread which is what so often happens when this is mentioned.

I also think people are giving the PvP changes far too much weight in what's happening now. Fact remains some were going to like the changes and some were not. The small proportion that actually would of left is insignificant imo and could have easily been evened out by new people joining and old people returning for i13, which i saw quite a few of in game.

Imho if someones going to throw a hissy fit over a few PvP changes which accounts for a small part of the game then we didn't need them here anyway. There is a whole load more to do in game to have fun with. if they really wanted to make a point they could have stayed and put their point across rather than leaving in some sort of false martyrdom.

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re: nooby_damz and others

this really isn't the place for discussion about what caused the global money problems, it's interesting but not here, it's asnnoying to see new posts on the thread and find it's no more new news or ideas on what's going on and just political arguing. :/

I wouldn't bother normally but this is quite important and I doubt I'm the only one watching this!

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Well the recession is obviously part of the reason they've decided to shunt so many staff out of Brighton. International trade is obviously very difficult right now, even China's exports have fallen significantly. It's probably easier for them to retreat to the US and wait out the storm than to try and keep it all afloat now and risk it all going under.

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so i ask u this If u were a PvP hardcorer (or even softcorer) would u be happy with they way that they (Castle in particular) treated this.

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I don't think we should turn this into a 'i hate the PvP changes thread'. To be honest i'm not a Pvp'er, i dabble now and then but not to an extent that i would say it part of my gaming life. However i did play enough before and after to notice the changes. To be honest i felt that they'd tried to make it more equal and accessible for all rather than those top few who would just blitz everyone and make it less fun for others, especially new people.

What people have to remember is this isn't City of Veterans. It has to cater to new people too and obviously they felt that PvP didn't, as i did when i first started it.

As i previously stated i find the fact of creating a ton of bugs then not fixing half of them until i14 far more negligent than anything they did to PvP.

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but how long will it take to gain back the purchase of AI of CoH before they even hit break-even? (afaik no numbers of purchase are known)

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Well i have more faith in them than to think they'd buy the IP (by Ai i assume you mean the IP) even though they thought they couldn't break even or turn a profit. The fact is they did buy it which means they thought they could make something out of it. Which is why i think this game as a bit of life in it yet and i doubt they're just going to shut it down and cut their losses.

P.s. even if you didnt mean the IP my point still stands sorta