Zetargos

screw that if your not stealth tanking than its just not dUmb.

well heres the thing the pack that was suppose to come out two years ago that was scrapped was suppose to take down the war walls and open up the zones, thus allwoing vehicle movement. However that plan was changed instead of paying for the pack they released it in several issues...i9-15 I think. The fact that many of the changes that were suppose to happen in that pack but haven't and the fact that issues are slow coming and still are buggy are still proof that the expansion pack was never really ready.

MA/DA never found that combo to be that good. MA took more endurance for damage it delt than most any other combo I played. Probably do to lack of aoe damage so that your not using big attacks to finish off people with little health left or possibly due to the fact that it lacks real reliable mitigation in the set. More likly its a combonation of the two, however as far as stacking stuns go...cobra strike is your only reliable one in ma and its the only one that you will make a difference.

DM/DA Touch of Fear and Cloak of Fear area really all you need. The presence pools suck as far as stacking, you can never get the recharge down fast enough on either and if you could touch of fear would already be up way faster than them.

Personally if you really want to do either of the two of stacking stuns and fears...make a team of dark armor scrappers...2 OG stuns bosses, 2 cof fears bosses...and you just did exactly what you want with only 2 people. Other combos that play well with dark armor, dark miasma and pet gaze and og in the epics. Illusion control and mind control also offer fears to stack with. Overall I find these options better than presence pool and ma stuns.

so I have seen you talking about this kat/da in the past...what kind of build do you have for it?

well the other dUmb teams could race each other...now thats a little trash talking

yes, though I think it would have been with the Pittsburg Steelers. They always would have a place for them considering all of the gimmick routes they run. He would have been the back up qb but would have been playing mostly at wide reciever.

its not really trash talking to behonest atleast not on my part. Its an honest question. I left the game for a year or so and came back recently. Many of the people that are in the dUmb channel are not known by me and I don't really talk with them much. I was just curious if the group had kept a hold of the speed events.

Ran the Speed STF and we won by 10 minutes or so beating at that time a really good time, in fact the osha team came out beating the record for the STF for our server and we came out and beat their time a few minutes later.

Katie TF race we blew the competition away there as well

We did a croatoa story arc race and put a time of 15 or 30 minutes...the next best time was 45 minutes away if I recall right.

If blunt honesty is trash talking then I guess thats what I was doing

As far as his criminal record the man did his sentence and lost millions I truly believe he is sorry for what he has done. Why bother allow a person to even get out of jail if your telling them they can no longer make a living at what they do.

As for a player...I don't think vick can run the west coast offense effectively enough for him to warrant a QB spot. Kolb is suppose to be the future, Feeley is a very nice back up, Vick shouldn't really be considered a QB for the purposes of the game. Heres why.

First 3rd string QB's can't play in a game unless the 2nd string QB is injured. So Vick can't be considered the 3rd string qb because they are going to use him in unique situations. He can't be used as the 2nd string QB because he really can't run this offense consistently.

So now you have to consider that your going to move him to A) running back...where you already have a power back, a full back, westbrook, booker, and McCoy. Thats a long jam for the Eagles because they normally only keep 3 backs and a full back. Even if you cut Booker (most likly since he isn't that good) you still have Vick there to take his place creating a 5 back rotation.

So move him to WR, well theres a problem there as well...Eagles are very deep at WR. They may be the only team with out a true number 1 but they have 5 number twos from last year, and they drafted Maclin so you have to assume he is already making the team. Thats 7 wr currently that should be on your roster if you move vick there. That doesn't help out considering the Eagles usually only carry 5. Jackson, Curtis, Avant, Brown, Maclin, Vick, Baskett...even if you cut Basket and Brown thats pretty good talent your letting go. Basket is a big body and consistent often coming up with big plays and Brown was your number 1 reciever 2 years ago, along with being a big body. Then you also have Gibson who is a rookie who is playing pretty well on special teams. So now your at 8 recievers

So now as the coach you can easily just say alright he gets a roster spot as a WR even though he will play qb for us, now you have to get rid of a spot from somewhere else. The Eagles love to rotate their defensive line to keep them fresh...being a dallas fan you're aware of that because so many people hitting Romo when they play. So you can't really cut there. The Eagles also like to keep a deep secondary they usually have 5 solid corners who usually play through out the year due to all the styles of defense like nickel and dime. They also keep a lot of safties because they will run 3 safty formations and you usually want a back up for each spot.

Overall when said in done, I don't know if Vick will be worth loosing our current players, hopefully he is more than just one or two gimmick plays a game. He definatly has potential for big plays but potential and actually doing is two different things. Long story short Vick's signing as a former criminal doesn't bother me much because he did his time. The Eagle organization is probably a very good one for him to go to because McNabb, Reid, and Lurie created a family like atmosphere there. Those three should be able to help Vick out. However only time will tell.

No and den!