Amazing_Guy

Originally Posted by Runo

Thanks for all the advice, all! I'm pushing my way to 50 as fast as I can, hoping to make this toon my fifth non-AE 50. My biggest concerns are getting the rest of the money to IO him out, which I should make by 50 (I'm sitting on almost 800 mil right now, with 100 mil in crafted IOs sitting in storage), getting all the hero accolades for HP and Endurance, and choosing the right Alpha Slot. I do like mauk2's idea of taking the +RECH/HEAL slot. Aside from the obvious benefit of improved recharge, Spiritual Radial Boost's heal - to the best of my knowledge -- will increase my MaxHP by a fair amount from Dull Pain, the regeneration on Health, and (maybe) my +HP accolades?

@Void Spirit: I skipped a travel power because I don't intend to ever PvP and I also couldn't think of a way to optimize the build's strong traits without weakening them by adding a travel power. I wouldn't have minded Fly for getting around, but since I don't intend to ever PvP, I figured I could get by just buying jet packs from the Firebase and using Combat Jumping in combat.

Regarding Kismet, that's actually a REALLY good idea, but I figured my +ToHit from Invincibility and Power Siphon and slotting (plus bonuses from sets) for Accuracy would help me land hits a fair amount.

With all the advice I've read, I revamped the slotting a bit, so that should address the resist passive issues.

The reason for saturating my defense over the softcap is wariness of Defense Debuffs, but as long as I have 2-3+ targets on me or am not fighting a defense-shredding AV, I ought to be fine, so I turned down the defense a bit.

@mauk2: Definitely agreed on the idea for the Incarnate slot. As for Mu, that would require me to swap to rogue alignment and to plow through the patron arc. That's not really a problem, per se, but I was eying fire for its slot usefulness and for how much it pads my damage. Still, Mu is a pretty handy idea (as it has TWO AoEs for scrappers, doesn't it?)

@bAss_ackwards: Fantastic build. I revised it with my own touches that may or may not help more or less, depending on what I'm fighting, but I'll leave that up to you and all the critiquers. Thanks!



I took the advice from all of your builds and came up with this from modifying bassackward's build a bit with everyone's advice in mind (though if my version isn't up to snuff, I'll just stick to Bass' build -- he has softcapped F/C defense in a mob of 8 or 9... mine needs 10). I didn't fit the Kismet in yet for the above reasons, but I probably should ... it just seems like ToHit overkill. Any thoughts/further tinkering to be done? I know the S/L/NRG/Neg defenses are still a bit higher than usual, but I'm hoping to compensate as much as possible for defense debuffs so Cimerorans don't shred me. Of course, as mauk2 mentioned, my defense should shoot through the roofs so that I'm softcapped to almost all the typed defenses when I'm in a crowd... unless I'm overestimating the usefulness of Invincibility. lol

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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Body Blow -- Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 2: Smashing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(13), RctvArm-ResDam(13), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Power Siphon -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(7)
Level 8: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(37)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 12: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Knock%(46)
Level 14: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(40), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 18: Burst -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(21), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(21), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 22: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(37), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25)
Level 26: Focused Burst -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29)
Level 30: Resist Elements -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam(39)
Level 32: Concentrated Strike -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(33), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Slow%(42), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(46)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Unstoppable -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(3), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(40)
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 2.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 21.75% Defense(Smashing)
• 21.75% Defense(Lethal)
• 9.25% Defense(Fire)
• 9.25% Defense(Cold)
• 21.13% Defense(Energy)
• 21.13% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 15.19% Defense(Melee)
• 13.94% Defense(Ranged)
• 6.125% Defense(AoE)
• 1.8% Max End
• 4% Enhancement(Heal)
• 50% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 16% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 4% FlySpeed
• 155.61 HP (11.62%) HitPoints
• 4% JumpHeight
• 4% JumpSpeed
• MezResist(Held) 2.75%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
• 11% (0.184 End/sec) Recovery
• 50% (2.795 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 2.835% Resistance(Fire)
• 2.835% Resistance(Cold)
• 3% Resistance(Psionic)
• 14% RunSpeed

Originally Posted by XkreegorX

did you even look at the build i put up for you?
compare the 2 builds side by side....there about the same cost as well
melt armor is just about worthless and yes imho ,
you have 1 to many atk's


@Kreegor

Originally Posted by Stone Daemon

Part of the problem is you logged in pretty late at night. Protector closes it's doors (so to speak) rather early. But that's only a vanishingly small part of your problem. Redside is most definitely a ghost town in Protector since GR hit--most of the villains migrated to blueside (which has always been the more populated side of protector). And then, yes, there is the /hide issue.

Sorry for the miscommunication, I tend to ignore redside as I don't play there myself that often, for that reason exactly.

If you were serious about looking for a team, sure, you can look me up. But if you keep the badge/tf channels open and play on blueside, you really shouldn't have a problem. I had logged in the other evening just to verify something and immediately got hit with a tell asking me to join.

Originally Posted by MunkiLord

No promises this is what you're looking for(could be out of date), but try this.

Originally Posted by MunkiLord

Have you tried your server's global chat channels for teaming and general socializing?

Originally Posted by Schismatrix

Oh, redside. Yeah, redside seems to have a small fraction of the population of blueside on most servers. Add to that that i know many people who are more likely to use /hide when playing villains. Personally i never hide and welcome PuGs on either side, but i know quite a few who don't feel the way i do.

Originally Posted by Stone Daemon

I would rather play in a graveyard than freedumb. I logged into that server for the first time, and what's the first thing I hear on broadcast? Someone with a Dragonball Z name asking for an AE farm, offering money. *shudders*

That said, Protector is no longer a graveyard. Many people, myself included, were simply bored and doing other things while waiting for GR to release. Since then, I'd say the servers are at a high it hasn't seen in years.

EDIT: Which isn't saying that much, actually, heh. Let me rephrase that to say it's hit the yellow status quite regularly since GR release, and still is. I haven't seen the yellow status on Protector before except for double xp weekends.

Originally Posted by lionheart_fr

Then I would have dropped out long ago.

I'm a 51 month vet -- my highest level character is 37. I play tons of alts (so many powersets, costumes, etc. to work with ). I'm in no hurry to max out my characters.

I love the AE -- for story purposes and alternate advancement, especially when I hit one of those pockets where the available dev content is stuff I've done repeatedly or don't care for. Obviously, I fail as a powerleveler since I have no 50s and actually like developing my characters over time.

The AE is great fun. Some misuse it, some use it for good stories, and some use it just to go beat up baddies for fun. It adds a lot of dimension and variety to the game. There should be no level restriction.

Originally Posted by Feycat

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that people who gained xp through known exploits in AE had that xp revoked when the exploit mission was removed? Or at least, at one point? Doesn't that stop those exploit farms from being actually profitable for power leveling?

I speak only from articles read online, since this isn't a factor of the game I participate in.

Originally Posted by Stone Daemon

I would rather play in a graveyard than freedumb. I logged into that server for the first time, and what's the first thing I hear on broadcast? Someone with a Dragonball Z name asking for an AE farm, offering money. *shudders*

That said, Protector is no longer a graveyard. Many people, myself included, were simply bored and doing other things while waiting for GR to release. Since then, I'd say the servers are at a high it hasn't seen in years.

EDIT: Which isn't saying that much, actually, heh. Let me rephrase that to say it's hit the yellow status quite regularly since GR release, and still is. I haven't seen the yellow status on Protector before except for double xp weekends.

Originally Posted by MrNotorion

One third of the subscribers would be very upset, one third would celebrate, and one third would either not know or at least care either way.

The market, however, would not crash. It would simply become a "truer" representation of actual market forces uninfluenced by AE providing means and motivation to NOT use the market as intended.

More people would be VISIBLE in game zones. As they move between missions they will be "physically" travelling in and through zones, not just stepping in and out of the thingy in AE.

I think PUGs would become more common again - at least for those who are currently avoiding AE. Without AE missions to run through people would have to again turn to IN-GAME content so the AE-phobic would have more people to interact with in the game on a regular basis.

When AE was introduced I thought it was a mistake. Generally I still do but only because I think the general idea behind it was improperly incorporated into the game. The conceit behind Architect Entertainment is that the missions are not REAL. They are holographic simulations that heroes use for entertainment purposes. For the people responsible for providing content for the game it was a boon because it sloughed a large chunk of responsibility for new/updated content upon the players themselves. But the EFFECT was to remove players from participating in the EXISTING content. People still interested in playing through existing content now had a LOT fewer people to team with.

That same effect has been realized to one degree or another with other changes in the game. With City of Villains players who would otherwise be playing in blue-side zones were split off to isolated red-side zones. With Going Rogue they've been split further into Preatoria meaning both blue and red-side zones will see fewer players who would otherwise be there. With AE you may still see their names listed as present in the zone but for all intents and purposes they're NOT there and may as well be in the Rogue Isles or Praetoria.

What would probably have been a better means to incorporate AE would have been to have the player-created missions reviewed by GMs and then made available as actual live game-world missions not "fictional" missions. Perhaps as radio/newspaper missions or maybe issued by a Crime Computer that players could put in their supergroup bases, or access from City Hall, police stations, FF, or Vanguard, etc. The point being to keep them moving around and playing in the ACTUAL game world rather than promoting them removing themselves from the game world for playing within an isolated, fictional representation of the game world within the game world.

Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano

It isn't as big as it once was, the days of the Rikti Comm/Hami Bubble farms being the norm are long gone.

Though I did amuse myself while buying salvage in steel canyon that there was one guy in broadcast asking for an AE PL for a solid 20 minutes with no answer, throwing a huff and then quitting.

Probably should have sent him to Atlas if that's the thing he wanted but eh.

Though I do find it interesting that the most prolific EU farmers are more 'I don't need the extra bodies, I just need the company' and will bring along lowbies just for someone to talk to.

Originally Posted by Furio

They already did that. They're called Epic Archetypes, and tying unlocks to lvl 50 was something they've said they would never do again.

Originally Posted by DumpleBerry

I'm not sure we're thinking the same thing. AE has some AWESOME stories in it, but if your buddy hit 50 in a few hours...he skipped EVERYTHING. He skipped every single thing in the game. And for what? Fifteen bucks?

What a waste.

Originally Posted by SlickRiptide

Power leveling is about the worst reason I can think of for losing the mission creator.

Those people who are power leveling to 50 in two days? They'd be doing the exact same thing out in the game world. It might take them three days because they had to move around a bit.

There's no helping someone like that. I certainly wouldn't hold an extreme Achiever type up as an example of how the game needs to be changed. Those people are the type that only care about hitting max level. They don't care about playing the game. They only care about the number at the end.

And it IS the end, for them, since this game doesn't have a traditional end game.

Those people do not represent a typical player.

To answer the question, though, you'd make a lot of people angry, and a lot of people indifferent, and the end result would be a loss of content without very much overall effect on the other aspects of the game.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Originally Posted by DumpleBerry

Ouch. His loss.


Biiiiig loss.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Your post is both late and uninformed. Quite honestly, the only place I see AE farms broadcast about is Freedumb. Market crash? You're kidding, right? You are aware those drops come from normal mobs as well (or sometimes exclusively, in the case of purples,) right? Not to mention the PVP IOs that you can't do jack about getting from AE?

Now, personally, *I* would be pissed, because I - like many others - have actual story arcs I've worked on and run, and others in the works. Don't care about rating, they're fun for me to come up with and go through.

There's also the side issue that it's a very convenient place to pick up inspirations before you have contacts offering them to you.

Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman

Isn't this thread a little on the late side?
I was unaware AE was still that popular. Yes, I know some people use it to farm and whatnot, but it long ago ceased to be the PL'ing tool it was during its initial release.

Originally Posted by rad

Yeh i have a build worked out for perma rage even without hasten,tho thats in the build too.