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No, what I'm saying is that the MM should not be so technical that only those who are capable of min/maxing the build and doing EXACTLY what needs to be done at EXACTLY the right time should be the only ones enjoying this class. There needs to be a margin for error, and if only you people who know exactly how to play this class with no errors and with full knowledge of how to utilize every little nuance of the class can play it properly, then yes, it needs a buff. This isn't some arcade fighting game, Masterminds do not need that perfect 50-combo strike to be effective, and I really, really don't want to pull out a calculator to enjoy the game I have here.

You can stop with the snide 'Pay Attention' stuff, because I'm trying to be at least a little civil here.

Now, listen, okay, sure, maybe YOU can have this amazingly epic build with your Ninja build, and completely wipe the floor with anything you come across and have a fun time, but not all of us have the capacity to be quite as good as that. Sure, maybe that IS on us, but, consider for a moment:

I have a DB/Will brute and I can solo +1 x8 missions without even going past halfway HP, and I haven't practiced with him for very long either. At level 45, he didn't die once during a massive league raid on the rikti mothership in the RWZ.

Now, I've been playing MM's for a total of 9 months, and I struggle with all of them except my Bots/FF I made simply to see WHY it was so good, and I still run into trouble with it occasionally on more difficult missions set at +2 or so, but solo he tends to just fine. Granted, he's 32, so I'm not quite at full power, but..

I agree, MM's as a whole might not need a buff, but if Bots/FF or, as you said, Bots/Traps are so OP, then, yes, please, nerf them. But make my Mercs MM, my favorite, first-ever made MM, capable of soloing just as good as other builds, because right now I have trouble soloing anything past +0 x5 because everything is suddenly so resistant to Lethal damage.

The Mastermind AV is not an easy class to play, unless you chose the obvious Bots/FF/Traps or Thugs/Traps as people like to claim, and then you're golden. But I've yet to run into any specific archtype with such a massively underpowered setup like my Mercs/Pain has, the damage output is horrible and the heals just arn't enough to keep up with the damage my mercs receive.

Maybe I'm just slotting it horribly wrong, but I have unique pet-damage sets for each one, and a healing set on my PBAoE set.

And, lest we forget, AoE's DO deal double-damage to MM's, because while the MM himself may not be receiving all of that damage himself, his pets are. And a MM without pets is a very squishy target indeed, so, yes, AoE attacks are much, much worse for a MM than say your world-endngly powerful Brute or Tank or whatever it is you play.

Have you tried playing Mercs or Ninjas lately?

Sure, solo, they may scrounge through OK, they might even survive fine on a small team, but get them in TF's or anything that has more than yellows and the occasional orange, and, for instance, my Mercs/Pain is suddenly outputting as much damage as a defender might if they used only their first and second attacks on auto-fire, if even that.

I stood there in the middle of this nice team of well-rounded people, with auto-heal on, and I was being out-healed by a controller, out-damaged by a defender, and a blaster had more survivability than I did at that time.

Except they really do.
The fact that Bots/FF is such a great class selection is like saying that a Fire/Fire tank is too good in AE Fire farms.

Selectively, if you look at MM with ONLY THAT CLASS, you could assume that MM might just be a bit OP, sure.

But look at Ninjas, or Mercs, even as you mentioned - you're assuming that the devs are idiots and going to just nerf Bots and Thugs because they arn't underpowered and leave Ninjas and Mercs as they are.

The fact that two whole primaries with MMs are almost entirely useless is extraordinarily derp. My favorite MM, my Mercs/Pain was awesome, and I adored him, until I reached level 41 and everything suddenly was taking chunks less damage from my minions, and my soldiers started dieing fast and hard, to the point I literally could not summon them fast enough. Specops are vastly less useful than almost any secondary pet that the MM's get, and the Commando, bless his heart, while trying his damndest, he still relies almost, almost that is, exclusively on lethal damage, which everything suddenly decided was no longer a threat to them.

Why should I have to go back and reroll a bots/FF just to contend as a MM? Why do I have to suddenly take my lashings and accept that my Mercs/Pain is now less damaging, and less helpful than a Defender in task forces, or anything with more than +0?