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Just an observation on your slotting.
You have performance shifter chance of slotted in drain psyche. You also have stamina 3 slotted. Moving the proc to stamina will give you endurance more often.
You can either move the proc to the third slot in stamina or move the slot. If you move the slot you can put 4 pieces of performance shifter in stamina for some very nice set bonuses. If you move the proc but not the slot, you can put in a recharge proc in drain psyche to have it available more often. -
Just something to think about before taking financial advice
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=196176
The above is a thread from October speaking of both the perfect time to buy purples and the perfect time to sell purples, because of price rises coming and the immediate crash of purples, respectively. Oddly enough prices are pretty much where they were then, with small variances in both directions. -
Quote:Wut ?Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
If you exclusively team, and do not do market stuff aside from selling your drops, redside you can easily get to 22 and not be able to afford all your SOs.
The team drop rate sucks.
The xp/inf scale in the same way on teams. If you don't market your drops you don't care about them anyway except for crafting. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Santorican
On my DP/Energy I usually hit build up boost range then empty clips then jump in with hail of bullets but the glaring problem is that even after that I still find quite a few minions are still alive.
Hail of has an outstanding chance of killing nothing. -
Have to disagree on world of confusion. It should be called needs purples to be useful.
And I would toss Hail of bullets into the ring. Call it, will get you killed probably wont do much to the enemy. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Hard Kisses
soon the mini-maxxers will abandon the set and move on. i want the concept not the numbers. less DPs the better.
here's to it remaining "sub-par" indefinately :P
I don't want to bust your bubble but, if your concept has someone who does very little damage and has silly silly animations to go along with it, the concept is comic relief. Think Barney Fife, Agent 86 from get smart, or the goofy gangster from resident evil that's always getting slapped around. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I was quite surprised that Hail has 2 minutes recharge. Even more so that it seems to have been the one power that didnt get the love it deserved from the Beta testing. The rest of the set wound out nearly spot on, IMO. But Hail is, while still gorgeous, lacking something.
The set has a horrific redraw penalty. Until that is fixed the set needs to be significantly better than it is. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
I think the issue is mosre that RoA and FA are overpowered (especially in these days of IOs) and Hail of Bullets is more representative of where they should be.
Niether is overpowered, nor is blizzard. Your tier 9 power should be something that actually want not something that is meh optional. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Blunt_Trauma
Dual Pistols. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but, the animations are just ridiculous and drive me crazy. I was soooo hoping for more of a Malta Gunslinger type feel: a little flash and fairly straightforeward. No joy.
This, this, this
The animations are all things that will get you escorted off a gun range. The damage from the set is at best subpar.
2 minuses no positive. I just don't see playing it on a blaster. The only upside was the nuke was pbaoe non crashing, but given the animation time, recharge time and low damage, its rain of arrows ftw still. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Some people do like the ding fest.
Others are of the "Must Reach Level Cap Now To Start Gameplay" mindset.
Either way, I seriously doubt either (or both) for a majority here.
I well remember the comm officer fever. I saw people I hadn't seen in forever playing the game and usage was at multiples of normal.
You may well be correct when you apply "here" to your statement, but that is only because what is here is what's left.
Edit: Just a counter data point
If so many people were using and enjoying the fast leveling that this gentleman couldn't find teams its pretty substantial evidence that a majority were enjoying it. Now you can go into the wisdom of removing features that your customers like and use, but cost you nothing but that is a different discussion.Quote:Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire
The same way exploits screwed over the game for everyone who doesn't want to use them before; near-impossible to form non-farming teams, high-level zones are filled with clueless powerlevelled newbies that have no idea how to use their powers, nobody playing non-50 content, etc. -
Quote:Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
I guarantee the timing was NOT coincidence.
I used those damnmissions to get some characters past the really early content, since after the hundredth time, Kalinda's missions get REALLY stale. And Burke's aren't much better.
I don't think I've done the initial contact blueside in over a year anyway, so that was no big deal.
There are other missions that will get you past the first 20 levels in about an hour. Easy enough to find them as well. I would say more but there are people that resent anyone having access to such things. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Chriffer
I apologize. I'll retract my statements. I made this paragraph bigger because it's more important. I made the following paragraph in small, fine print because it is me just trying to save face. Mostly, I just use a bunch of big words and try to explain what I was thinking to make myself sound like I know what I'm talking about. I suggest you don't read it.
My first draft of this post started off by defining "Demand" is exacting terms. Explaining how it is a curve, has different values at different points, and is a rate. I had graphs and examples and everything. Then I was going to explain about substitute goods. First, when comparing perfect substitutes price is the only consideration. Examples of how this applies to some CoH items like procs. Then I was going to go into non-perfect substitutes. Explain how Demand can shift based on price and quality. I had examples ready. There are many items on the market with sub-level 50s for sale and at prices below the level 50. My explanation would have been that the lower quality caused lower Demand. People simply demand these sub-50 items less. The demand has never moved, it's always been there, always been the same, and always been low. Then I ran into Luck of the Gamblers, and Numinas etc. Essentially, lower level is better in almost every way (minor difference for LotG). Except there are those items for sale on the market at sub-level 50s, and they are cheaper (not the superlow ones though). The substitute good, which is better in every way, quality/price etc. is better. Yet it's cheaper... and it's for sale. The Demand that should be there isn't there. Apparently yes, the Demand has shifted. As I thought about it more I remembered all the times I've heard "I didn't even know there was a 'For Sale" checkbox. Then I thought about all the times I've gone to the market and never cared to educate myself on the market situation and just bought whatever. Apparently yes, the Supply in this case is a quality factor to the item that drives up demand for substitute goods. Though, Roderick's examples does have many flaws that someone else will have to sort out.
Paragraph 2, good example of why in the real world if you ask 2 economists a question you get 6 different answers. -
Quote:This, There is nothing like seeing to the heart of the matter.Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
IMO, level 50s are "the best." A large enough amount of people aren't planning on being exempt enough to where having IOs below level 50 matter to them all that much. The poster children for this are farmers.
There are entire categories of activities, that can only be done efficiently at 50. Its almost pointless to go for epic badges if you are exemplared, farming for purples would be silly, powerleveling other people ? all practically require you to be at 50.
Seeing as the farmers/powerlevelers are the people who generate the supply, the demand and the inf to pay for its really not surprising that 50 is their sale / purchase point.
You toss in the fact that if you want to buy anything off level in a reasonable time, you better be willing to dedicate a bunch of slots to the effort and be willing to wait upwards of a month or two for your goods, its really no surprise that 50 is where the activity is.
Edit: Or to put it another way, according to the last hour challenge good farmers are currently earning 40 million/hr raw inf. So for them to wait a week to save 5 million makes how much sense ? -
Quote:You can actually play the game from 1-50 without enhancing at all.Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
The game can be played from 1-50 with SOs.
Simple as that.
My kin defender is quite welcome on task forces even though its secondary doesn't have a single enhancement slotted.
Quote:Originally Posted by Redoubtable
Here's my definition, from earlier in the thread:
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Originally Posted by Redoubtable
That's true, "need" is a fairly nebulous concept in this context. My highly subjective definition is that "need" is what's required for your character to perform to the level that one could reasonably expect given the abilities/limitations of their archetype and power sets (assuming relative competence on the part of the player). The line where "need" turns to "want" is when a character gains the ability to solo a tough EB without Shivans/Nukes, partially because this was the expectation I had in SO days, and partially because the game usually gives you a warning if you're about to enter a mission which contains an EB.
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SOs and soloing. Even with this there are multiple regimes to be considered. SOs only pre ED, SOs + HOs pre ed, SOs only post ED, SOs +HOs post ED. Then there is the matter of what is a reasonable level of difficulty and death rate.
In the example above a kin defender on a team doesn't need that much to be viable. That same kin defender would need much more to be viable for solo play and be enjoyable. -
Quote:Could you define need ?Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
None other than the fact, that casual players don't need IOs.
But we knew this already. As stated perfectly by the examples posted just above your post.
Carry on.
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Quote:Why ?Originally Posted by eryq2
Actually i tri-box and pl or run for drops in PI and AE. I may not get merits but in AE i get 9000 tix per hour i can easily get gold rolls on each toon. Although, i generally use 1 toon for gold, 1 for silver and 1 for bronze. The silver rolls actually make the most inf for me.
In PI, i normally max salvage and common recipes on 2 runs. Some junk, some good. Sometimes i can get 2-3 orange salvage per toon per run.
I haven't tried to run solo mishes but whenever i run with my friends or a team, i rarely even get any recipes to drop at all.
I am interested in how many drops are actually dropped running mishes solo. What are the settings that Nether runs at? 0x8 or what to have a fitted toon AND 300mil doing mishes to 50? Even farming every day, it takes time to get "good" drops and to be able to do it all just on radios or contacts is hard to believe.
Its one instance that would not have been mentioned if it failed to support the point to be made.
And even if it were representative. You have things like this.
vsQuote:one, how much inf would a theoretical 'casual gamer' pile up playing the "right" way to 50- running story arcs, selling drops, no marketeering, no farming
Quote:I logged him in to move him around for day jobs, started doing a little marketeering -
Energy has some nice opportunities for enhancement and you can pick up some very nice sets on the cheap.
A single full set of kinetic crash strategically slotted will get you 7.5% global recharge and knock back protection.
You can also slot thunderstrikes to build up ranged defense.
The question is how do you want to play him and what kind of approach have you been using to get there. Oh and lets not forget how much inf can you spend ? -
Quote:Originally Posted by eryq2
lol.
I understand your reaction. My own first reaction was something along the lines of sociological researcher manages to find evidence to support pet theories.
Then I remembered a thread in the blaster boards.
Quote:Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I've started playing my AR/Dev again, who I retired in disgust after ED but never deleted because I really liked everything about him except for his crippled primary & secondary.
He's an OLD character. He was built to a theme, but predates the original nerf to caltrops, let alone smoke grenade. He made it to 35 before getting shelved.
I logged him in to move him around for day jobs, started doing a little marketeering (as an old school character he was ridiculously poor, so I made a few moves), decided to franken-slot his attacks as an experiment to see how cheaply I could do it, and then of course wanted to see how well they worked with my el cheapo enhancements. And although he's not what I'd call a 'strong' character, his current incarnation has been pretty fun to play.
Which got me thinking.
Up to now I've used IO's to make already powerful characters somewhat comically more powerful, notably my fire/rad controller & the Goat, a fire/dark corrupter.
But what would happen if I applied "the good stuff" to a generally underperforming character? Could throwing money at a 'gimp' set make it a (relative) powerhouse?
I've decided to find out.
So, assuming an unlimited budget (he's still not rich, but it won't take me long to get him there) what's the best way to make him a killing machine?
My initial instinct is to pile on the +defense and seek the legendary "soft cap" (which I know nothing about other than hearing the phrase bandied about by various power gamers and IO gurus).
Anybody have any advice, either general or specific? He's got respecs to burn and I can make him look however he needs to. Right now he's primary heavy, with only web grenade, caltrops & gun turret (unslotted, he just picked it up because I wanted to check it out) from his secondary, plus Aid Other & a heavily slotted Aid Self.
I'm looking for a place to start and a general direction to pursue. -
To the OP
Killing lots of Romans is worth it. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Chriffer
I should have been more clear, honest, and straightforward in my post that I quoted here.
Actually you were at your most honest with the original post and it was a welcome change.
As I alluded to initially that picture was part of a long series of posts demonstrating flipping in the wild and showing how it can and did raise prices.
And back to the magic of your words altering prices ? Well I have always found that a good salesman can achieve magic with a few well chosen words. -
Quote:I suppose I could move the blessing of the zypher one spot over. Or perhaps there is someone who has 2 billion plus inf on a toon and likes playing musical chairs with a blessing of the zypher ? and has made screenshots available to me ?Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
I know this is you (and not you reposting an image someone else put up) how? It's not that I don't trust you. I don't trust ANYONE. Especially that goofy looking bastich in the mirror (he freaks me out).
Actually as high as I could go without slowing my sales.Quote:In your supposed time flipping salvage did your set your pricing at 2 million a pop or did you set it lower and have players bid it up that high? And, if the former, are you aware that your behavior is NOT the norm for marketeering?
I have no idea what normal is but I have seen guides and recountings that strategically fail to mention very important and rather valuable bits of information.
You will pardon me I keep that information for myself as I am still regretting making the comment that snowballed into the rare recipe project. Solace on that is that they seem to have a very good chance of getting it wrong.
Beats me but I haven't said that.Quote:And how, if I am wrong about you SPECIFICALLY, does this invalidate the notion that marketeers aren't responsible because people are stupid and impatient in their market use, and thus wind up paying more?
What I have said repeatedly is that many people don't like using the market in the game, their viewpoint and desires are no more or less valid than the people that do like using the market. Because the market is the fastest way to equip a character it creates a perception of need that it has to be used. Because this is a social game and there is a certain amount of requirement to keep up with the joneses that perception of need has a measure of reality. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Chriffer
According to someone, this is definitive proof that flippers raise prices.
Well done.
Brief, to the point, completely out of context and misleading on what was said, and requiring far too much effort to put right.
Tell me how has the talking up the price of respec recipes been working out for you ? -
Quote:2 Billion one month started with nothing all of it via flipping salvage, regular play and nearly at that 20th transaction badge too.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Then prove me wrong. PLEASE!
I'd wear a monocle but my eyes are too weak these days and tea is a little to acid for my digestion.
So now just what constitutes intelligent use of the market for you ?
Don't bother I really don't expect you to acknowledge you were wrong.
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Quote:Why are you the only person who replied that failed to understand what was said ?Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Do you even read what you're writing or is it strictly stream-of-consciousness?
Restaurant: STORE
WW/BM: NOT A STORE
You keep saying that as if it were so.Quote:Your being incapable of intelligently using the market in no way prevents you from playing the game.
Search the threads for a post by gamemaster ? He details the technique for creating a wave. It was a very nice outline of the technique. Perhaps after reading it you might chose to examine your assumptions, or the fact that you seem to be blindly repeating things you have heard without actually thinking about them.Quote:You might be on to something were it not for the fact that THE SELLER DOESN'T SET THE SALE PRICE. -
Quote:Originally Posted by UberGuy
But this comes down to grousing about the nature of the game, and not the behavior of its players. This is a superhero game with loot that you can buy from other players in a market.
Saying it's a "superhero game," full stop, leaves too many open ended expectations. It's a superhero game, an MMO, a game with classes and not point systems ... it has a very specific nature and other things attached to it beyond its superhero genre. People bring expectations from all over the place, and some of them are going to be wrong. Expecting to come to this restaurant and have no wait for food might be an explainable, but it's not valid.
Fair enough. I will note that the game promotes itself as a Superhero game, and that many people who play the game started playing specifically because it did not have loot.
