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The only acceptable compromise is being able to return tells.

No. Simply no. What you suggest is overly broad. I don't want to be inconvenienced because I have friends that have exceeded the basic level of rewards tokens needed would be on the same level as a RMT-scumbag (not a person trying the game, but one making a F2P account for the sole purposes of RMT spamming) that hasn't put a dime into the game. The existing rules are an acceptable compromise as it is.

By doing so, they are protecting their core money makers: their subscribers. It is there to make it so that there is a cost of business that will deter RMTs.

As a subscriber, I was harassed, annoyed, and had my play time shortened by free accounts spamming offers of $ to Inf schemes. I'm all for Paragon Studios curbing RMTs by charging an incredibly small fee (less than going out to a fast food joint) for the LIFETIME ability to send tells, talk in broadcast, and join groups.

If they get their accounts banned, eventually they'll find something else to do than annoy PAYING customers of this game.

The concerns of the free players are secondary to Paragon Studios' money maker: their subscriber base.

Given that I had 20+ tells & emails PER CHARACTER per day, it wasn't "more than a blip on the radar". It was 99% of my in-game emails. And even on smaller servers like Triumph and Liberty, I filled my ignore list with spammers that broadcast & sent tells.

Heck, it got so bad that I made a G15 macro to automate using the ignore_spammer command in 2007 (G15 Ignore Spammer Macro creation). I've not had to use it in over a year now, that alone says to me that asking for F2P to be given the rights to tells & broadcast is a BAD IDEA. If they want to send tells, that is a $5 purchase of Paragon Points. That is a reasonable compromise.

Now, having said that, the following changes could be made:

• Allow F2P players the ability to respond to tells.
• Give a warning to the VIP/Premium player that the target cannot respond to tells.

When I dump "junk" salvage for less than 100 inf, it is so that people can get the salvage they need without paying through the nose for stuff they need for crafting.

I know that I'm taking an Inf hit (I don't really care because if I'm in a hurry I'll delete it anyway), but when someone comes along and artificially raises the cost by doing what the original poster does, it annoys me.

Cut everything below this block:

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Sound Capture Devices
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That will give all the CPU, sound, and video drivers.

Speaking from experience?

I've quite frankly given up reporting the memory leaks as they been happening consistently since Issue 20 went live.

Lambda crashes FREQUENTLY. If I run another trial before it, Lambda will usually crash. If I manage to run two trials before it, Lambda WILL crash if I don't restart before it.

Underground has a chance to crash near the final battle, or on exit due to the length of the trial.

BAF may crash mid-trial or upon exit if I've done any TF or trial before hand.

Keyes may crash on exit, especially since Issue 21.
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May be related:
Having the Destiny Core Paragon on auto for 3 hours will, without fail, crash the program.
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I'll send you my DxDiag.
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Edit:
The game will crash with an out of memory error in 3-4 hours of play.

Or see if it is in the bargain bin at a store. I found several locally of almost every retail package (minus the CoH DVD). I've even found a sealed copy of CoV Collectors DVD locally.

I don't know... The VIP starter set should include an extra Reward Token as it should be considered a retail code. It also is a great taste of what you can get as a subscriber.

Flashback exemplars you to level 7 for that.

Don't feel bad, I'm not computer stupid by any means, and I have issues actually using it.

The original post might as well be ancient Greek for all that I can understand how to build a character with MIDs.

I think this quote is something to live by.

Robin Williams once joked that death is nature's way of saying "your table is ready". I can only hope that he has a good seat.

After carefully reading your post, I'll have to disagree with the above posters.

https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/St...em&item_id=593

NCsoft store:
You get those benefits for ONE MONTH.

After the player's subscription runs out he'll need to purchase:
Alignment System (no, he will not keep that for free)
Ability to start a Praetorian
Any Going Rogue Powers
Any Going Rogue Costumes

Answer in the Going Rogue Badges FAQ:

Okay, my next bill date is December 7th (due to a couple of refer a friend referrals it was changed from my "start" date of the 10th) and my Veteran Rewards were awarded on the 12th every quarter.

If I'm reading your announcement right, I'll get my Paragon Points stipend on the 11th this month, and over the next few months that will go back to the 7th, as long as I continue to subscribe.

My Paragon Rewards Tokens on the other hand will be awarded on the 12th of every month, as long as I continue to subscribe.

Is this generally correct?

Yet that means isn't available to players. However, does that mean you'd be okay with being able to open up the character creation and see a locked power set's numbers just like every other power in the game before buying the power set? Or how about putting in a power encyclopedia into the help files? Click on a power (in game help files have can have active links) and a window showing the power comes up.

The "more information" is more than they are currently providing, like having the player be able to see what is in the power set(s) in the character creation. Just like the Costume Creator lets you see locked parts.

I actually agree with that. Yet they haven't met that standard yet though.

And yet, they haven't done that with purchased power sets on the live servers.

You do know that consumer protection acts and civil trials are not criminal trials, right? Well, they are if you go out of your way to defraud someone, but that isn't happening here.

It seems that you might not understand the concept of ethics as it pertains to vendors. In this case, you really can't say that Paragon Studios doesn't have an ethical duty to disclose to the player what they are buying.

I agree with this. I would add the producers to the list of people that need a boot to the head though.

That is what I've been trying to say, yet I'm apparently not saying it well enough.

I expect the following about any product (not necessarily just power sets, but costumes and boosts as well) on the Paragon Market:

• Timely information about the product. Either before or at launch of the product.
• Easily accessible in-game information about the product.
• Easily be able to tell what has, and has not, been purchased.

Paragon Studios has failed on all these points.

I agree with you, yet I think a lot of people disagree with this position.

I agree with this as well.

I partially agree. The person that buys a power set without checking it deserves what they get. However, that does not absolve Paragon Studios from being partially at fault for not providing the information in either a timely (holding onto the Informer at least 6 weeks till the day AFTER it is released on the market) or not having the information accessible in either the market itself or in the character creation.

My point is that they haven't done so in a sufficient manner.

I agree with the first half of this statement, but disagree with the second half. They want us to buy the products on the market. By not providing adequate information prior to purchase, they are hoping people buy without knowing what they are buying. That, to me, is unethical.

Actually, they lost a sale. I've bought Beam Rifle, I doubt that I will be buying Street Justice even with the "free" points. How it was released has left such a bad taste that I doubt that I'll ever warm to the set. I was "meh" about it this morning, and have since gone actively to "dislike".

Over the individual purchase? No. In their business practices? Yes, they are at fault. They need to take steps this doesn't happen again.

It would be acceptable if they:

• Provided that information at the time of character creation.
• Provided that information in the help menu (clickable links to the specific powers in the power sets).

I had access to dual pistols on the test server for the week before it went on sale. I can't really say the same about Electric Control (though I was in closed beta fairly early for I18), Kinetic Melee (same), or Demon Summoning (this came out before I was invited to closed beta). However I didn't buy Going Rogue until almost 2 weeks after due to the inept handling of cross border sales & GameStop (despite having pre-ordered it 2 months before).

If I remember correctly, less than a 7 playable days after I got into open beta it was taken down. I say playable as a few days the beta wasn't accessible by any player.

The official announcement on the website, forums, and ustream happened the day AFTER release. They should have happened last week, before release.

As to the test server, they need to let players know that the billing system is not connected to the test server and that the player can "test drive" the power set there. Preferably at the same time they make the official announcements the week before.

Not the follow-up transaction though.

And that doesn't absolve Paragon Studios from having better descriptions of their products that players can use those points on.

So you are saying that Paragon Studios has no ethical responsibility to inform players what they are buying? I think that could be challenged in the courts or under any number of consumer protection acts.

I'm not talking about the original poster though. Yes, the original poster is at fault for not waiting for more information. However, it IS ALSO the developer's fault for not providing the information in a timely manner.

Both the original poster and the developers are at fault.

The thing is that I'm not asking for any revenue to do so. Besides, I'm not going to destroy the carbon units as there would be:

• No place to store my stuff.
• A huge mess that I wouldn't want to have to clean up myself.
• No one to serve me.

Okay, you are saying that providing the real numbers before sale is a bad idea because it would cause more complaints when the powers are changed, right?

Do you agree or disagree with this statement:

"The developers, when they have asked subscribers to purchase a power set, have asked more from players should be held more accountable to provide more information in a timely manner than with powers that are included with a subscription."

It is a fairly simple question. They want to charge for a power set, so they should have to provide more information in a timely manner. If you agree with the statement, how are they to provide that information in a timely manner to the players? If you disagree with the statement, how do you answer the complaints that the developers are not forthcoming with information that helps players make an informed decision?

Criminal? Please show me one instance in this thread other than this reply where I mention "criminal".

If the numbers are not provided, how are the players supposed to "look for these on their own?" Circular arguments are circular.

They've had that Intrepid Informer typed up for at least a month and a half, if not 3-4 months. I doubt anyone can claim that they could not have provided that information at an earlier time than a day AFTER it being put up for sale.

Player reported, not official channels and not in game before purchase. If it is on the test server, then that is ok for low levels, but doesn't show what would happen at higher levels unless a player is willing to spend a lot of time on a throw-away character.

When, before Issue 21, have they charged $10 for a single power set?

They had a beta test for a week before the Going Rogue Pre-sale where players could test Dual Pistols before release.

Open beta for around 3 weeks before Going Rogue went live.

Both:
Under $10 combined when the full powers & content were $29.99.

The only official venues for the information are the test server and official announcements.

That is no excuse for them to not release that information in the future. There is also no excuse for holding that Intrepid Informer till the day after it goes on the market.

So what? A lot of players could not access the Beta Server before Street Justice was pulled from the Beta.

No, you misunderstand. I meant that this has been in the developer's hands for at least a month and a half, if not 3-4 months. Why the heck wasn't this put on the website before the set was put on the market? How are players expected to do any research prior to purchase if the developers are not going to disclose the information?

And Paragon Studios did not fulfill THEIR responsibility for full disclosure for players to actually do their due diligence. It takes two to form a sale, and I'm not willing to put the blame on one party only.

Your objection (edit: seems to be appearing ) to deny any responsibility of Paragon Studios to provide information before the player buys the item. They are responsible for providing accurate information at/before the time of purchase. Failure to do so will cause these complaints.

Then they had better find a better way to describe the items before purchase, as what they have provided is woefully inadequate.

My disagreement is that you are advocating that the developers bear no responsibility to inform the players as to what, exactly, they are selling. They do. As they are expecting money over and above the subscription cost, they have a greater responsibility to inform the player as to what they are buying.

Seems fair as they are asking for more money than existing power sets, even more than they charged for Going Rogue. As they are expecting a higher standard from a player, they should expect to be held to a higher standard when selling power sets.

I'm not saying either. I am saying that if Paragon Studios expects more money for a power set, then they had better give more/better information than previously provided (edit: in a more timely fashion). The improved description should have, at the top of the description, that the numbers are subject to change at a later date with a link to the EULA. If the developers provide enough documentation prior to purchase, then complaints that the player needs to do their due diligence can be brought to the player. Not before the detailed information happens though.

The Intrepid Informer was written during closed beta, why the heck wasn't it made available prior to it going on sale?
As to the others: Like any real numbers shown, to expect them NOT to change in an MMO is insane, so I don't agree with your objection. At the very minimum, they need to have a preview before buying. The Beta and Test Servers seem to be ideally suited for this, as they are not connected to the billing server.

Question: This seems to have been written up during the Closed Beta. Why the heck has this been posted the day AFTER it was released to the live market?