Another_Fan

Even if you could use mind probe, you would still want your tier 1 and 2 ranged. There isn't enough recharge in any build to make up for the dps loss at range

I am pretty certain that I never mentioned stalkers in that thread.



I don't play ATs. I play powerset combinations from ATs.

I didn't create anything of the kind. The design choice with blasters is they are meant to be fragile, "The Glass Cannon". The problem is you don't get them being breakable, if you raise their damage by the amount needed to keep them in balance.

I can completely understand your position and even agree with much of it. My ideal fix would be to adjust the earnings rates of the various ATs or at least by at and powerset combination, the problems I see with that is one there is not enough mathematical acumen on the part of the devs to properly model the system to do this correctly. This is demonstrated by the attitude they have of see how people do with things and adjust. Blasters being a very good example of this. Their tendency to use use sledgehammers when tweezers are the correct tools is further evidence. Did every defender combination need a 30% damage boost ? Did every tank combination need the extra -resist ? Does anyone really think a super strength or a stone melee tank can't solo ?

What do you mean by "way out of whack" ? Really in the context of this thread, "best soloer that also melts face at end game". I doubt anyone would argue that blasters are the best soloers, or that the top soloers don't "melt face".

I thought that in the other thread, there was no dispute about other classes maturing later than blasters ? I would argue that blasters have the absolute best low level potential in the game, I19 may shift that to Brutes. Low Level defined as below 15.


As someone pointed out on the other thread, you have to work to make a bad scrapper, but blasters have plenty of pitfalls

Actually that's a great reason to sticky that thread. The very best case was that if you have a lot of skill and you invest heavily in IOs you can do about as well as average people do with other ATs. It sounds like he got steered to something much better for a new player.

And really "blowing stuff up while being on the screaming edge", you get that with other ATs, just at higher difficulty settings.

Well why don't you start. Then I can tell you, you're wrong, and we can turn the meaning of the word good into a popularity contest.

If someone walks into a bar and says, "liquor isn't even remotely as expensive as wine", is this correct or incorrect ?

Someone at the bar says, "Glen Fiddich is going for $150/bottle, Muscatel for $4.95 a gallon", correct or incorrect ?

First Guy Says "Aha, Glenn Fiddich is only $10/glass, you're wrong", correct or incorrect.

The market forum has one of the worst cases of confirmation bias anyone is ever likely to see. Its extreme in the way it filters theories, and and interprets facts. I still laugh at when Smurphy on the Chriffer account was saying that the market would function more efficiently and be less volatile if we had open an open outcry system instead of a double blind system. It was even more hilarious when market regulars told him he didn't know what he was talking about and should go read the market forums.

And to be accurate, I did mention up thread that the market was now for all intents and purposes irrelevant. Between tickets, merits, and the new hero villain merits just about anyone can completely evade the market and equip their character in good time.

Just going by the results of their actions, it looks to me, like the developers didn't buy the arguments the marketeers were making anymore than anyone else did. I am just ecstatic that they actually merged the markets despite all the arguments people on the market forum for it. I mean really when you have people over and over come up with schemes of the order "Make people take random rolls so they have to sell things cheaply when they don't want to, and we can buy them cheap", even if they say something that is correct you are likely to turn a jaundiced eye towards them.

Do you have yourself on ignore ? Or just not listen to yourself, after all if people that evade arguments by warping statements upset you so much, you must have real difficulty with your own posts.

On a text only forum, I am being ignored by someone who can't read.

Welcome to life, and the Human condition.

I know I am not questioning if blasters get benefits from building for defense or even if they get a good return from IOing, the question is how do the returns compare to other ATs.


In any given situation there is only so much damage that a character can receive per unit time. If you compare other squishy ATs the blaster has 20% more hitpoints so that puts them ahead, but the other squishies already have more layers than blasters do in general. Controllers can shut down 95% of incoming damage with their aoe controls, and depending on secondary can do things like boost regeneration, resistance or rate of incoming damage. Blasters can do this as well but not nearly as much.


So just comparing blasters to controllers,

Controler:
AOE control shuts down 95% of damage (no bosses),

IOed for Defense layer shuts down 95% of remaining incoming damage

Buff/debuff whatever number you think is appropriate.

Blaster :
Defense Layer shuts down 95% of damage

2ndary power set shuts down whatever number you think is appropriate

20% hit point advantage.

Damage output advantage for removing enemies

You should ask him for a refund.

You take it far to personally, it wasn't directed specifically at you.

But I can see why you might be hypersensitive

Where did I say all ? Show me.

Why don't you just demand I stand on my head while singing the national anthem at the same time,After all if I can't do that I must be wrong and afraid to admit it as well.

rofl

Try this its not remotely as hard to get a GM as it is a Mercedes ?

1 sentence less than 30 words,


If you compare Recipes to Recipes its true as well.

Except when they are

This is exactly what I said its the first thing I said in the thread the post is still there.

What a player wants from IOs is a personal thing, what it is possible for them get is an entirely objective thing.

We can talk about what is achievable with IOs with various ATs

Yeah but I am old, what's his excuse ?

This was my claim

Just what did I change ?

And just how did he refute that ?

But if you would like to talk about changing claims.

vs

We can go all day about his take on being able to take a god mode power is no big deal because you don't use it every minute. That's so stupid as to be near incomprehensible, its like saying having a good credit score isn't transformative for you, because you will only need a home loan a few times, or back to the car analogy, that there isn't much difference between a Gremlin, and a Ferrari because most of the time you can't open up the Ferrari.

You are still missing it. Its not about me being wrong or right. Its about you squirming to come up with new ways you are right. It was always about you beating on the original posters about trivial points and not being able to acknowledge your own errors.

Its hardly the first time you have done this, I suspect you will go to your grave denying minor errors, that you could never make.