Winterminal

Thank you. This does my heart good to read.

That seems like the only logical way to do it. The entire Incarnate system is wholly based on the lore of the game (gaining abilities that come from somewhere higher than the 5 Origins). No way they should they let us just buy into that kind of power.

I don't quite agree with the issue numbers, but I think all of those options are possibilities except your idea for I23. The Hazard Zone spawning difference is interesting, but I don't see them completely demolishing side-specific archetypes. You can already make an heroic Corruptor/Dominator/etc. via Praetoria, and it would make very little sense to have an Arachnos Soldier start out as a Hero, given the in game canon.

I am all for war wall demolition, and for further power customization.

...Must we keep this going? He dropped it, 2 pages back. The bottom of that post, and I'm pretty sure this was before the HERO system was even brought up, and by someone else.

Though, one thing you said is valid... it's time this thread died.

Haha! No worries dude, I don't even know if I'm right, it was just a pattern I noticed. I gotta think some kind of staff melee is coming. Now that Shields and Dual Pistols have been incorporated in-game, that is currently the most requested non-existent set out there. I'm totall behind back pieces for characters, as it still bugs me when my natural Archery blaster reaches back manifests an arrow out of thin air. And I've already siad how much I'd like to see some attention paid to travel powers, so, /signed.

OneWhoBinds, interesting idea. You're right, it would have a HUGE impact on the game, especially for long-time players who have known an area like, say, Skyway City for so long, and to have it suddenly turn into a zone like Boomtown would be a very new experience. Though, that being said, I would assume said zone(s) would turn into hazard zones, and we already have a number of "something/someone blew up and nearly destroyed everything" zones, i.e. Boomtown, Faultline, Rikti War Zone, 'Eden', The Hollows, etc. That isn't to say it won't happen, hell, that seems to be the direction that they are heading! But if they did that, I would want to see either another zone "fixed up" or see some new regular zone. Hell, maybe take a zone like Boomtown where there isn't a ton going on anyway, and have it turn into the place where Tyrant has set up his Primal Earth base of operations? Overall, I'm liking tossing this idea around.

SolUnitus, more customization is always something they are looking into, but in terms of unlocking the archetypes and giving people the ability to choose any combination of power sets... I'm not sure if this will ever happen. For starters, as the game stands, just imagine someone choosing a blaster archetype, but choosing Fire Control. The amount of damage they would be putting out would be off the charts. Now, obviously, that's not what you meant, but in order to facilitate such a change (as allowing a character to choose a blaster primary, and an armor secondary), there would need to be a re-design of nearly the entire character system, which is why I doubt we'll see it. After all, that's the reason we have Ancillary Power Pools, in order to supplement what archetypes lack, and to give someone a chance to create a character that attacks once or twice from range, and then runs in and pummels everyone. Regarding your other hopes: stances and expressions is something that we've been told they are working on (along with individual finger movements), but it's not high on the priority list. And we already have an intricate body scale creator, unless that's not what you meant...

So far I'm /signed for nearly everything here.

I would not recommend it. You only get 3 melee damage attacks to begin with. Frozen Fists is atrocious, and Freezing Touch is a great hold but deals minimal damage. That leaves you with Ice Sword, which is the only solid attack of the bunch. Oh, and with Chilling Embrace you can hog attention from a lower level tank, not something you really want to do as a blaster.

IMO, Ice Manipulation is much more suited for ranged combat. Set up Ice Patch at a choke point/corner, launch Shiver, and you'll kill everything before it has a chance to get in melee range.

As for my on topic comment... I'm not a blapper. Few of my blasters actually take the melee attacks, and those that do usually only use them to finish off the one or two bad guys that actually got within melee range without dying. It's a matter of choice really. I prefer to shoot from a distance, but I can think of plenty of character concepts that would involve killing a few enemies from a distance, then rushing in to pummel the rest.

We've already been told that Shield Offense will never exist precisely because it would need to be a melee/ranged combo. Leaving out EATs, that leaves Dominator secondaries and (kinda) Blaster secondaries, neither of which have access to Shields. Perhaps as an Ancillary power pool for melee archetypes, but that is the best we could hope for, and even that's a stretch. For right now, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, try Super Strength's alternate animations combined with Shield Defense. Jab, Knockout Blow, and Punch (when it fires with your left), all look as if you're using the Shield to hit your opponents.

I would love to see a water set, though I think it would be best as a Control set. Water Blast is very appealing, but I think the secondary effects as well as the animations (to a degree) would look too similar to Energy Blast.

I've already mentioned Staff melee, that seems to go across the board. Some kind of Throwing blast set, with customizable knives, thorns, shurikans, etc. would be cool too.

Completely mis-read the power. (I was going off online descriptions, haven't actually rolled a /Fire yet.) Thanks for the clarification. Outback, obviously ignore that bit of my post

*snipped for specificity's sake*

At this point the thread has gotten to the point where people are just responding to the first few posts. The above is from the top of page 5.

We have established:

1. That the majority of players are, at the very least, okay with the Fitness pool becoming inherent.
2. That the majority of players do not wish to see any other action taken towards Endurance/Recharge/Damage/etc., citing many worthy "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" scenarios.
3. That the majority of players disagree that endurance is unmanageable.
4. That Ultimo_ (having said so himself) is of a minority of players who wish that the game had a slightly different design.

I propose that we either push the thread direction towards possible solutions/options that could make the game more appealing to players of Ultimo_'s opinion, or (perhaps the better option) we let the thread drop. Clearly, what needed to be said has been said, and at this point we are either talking in circles or taking unnecessary shots at someone who has conceded in his argument.

I still intend on taking Fly, to be sure. Hell, once i19 hits and Fitness becomes inherent, I'll be struggling to find 3-4 new powers that I actually want, so I'll be keeping the ones I have already. I just meant that the slots I've devoted to flight speed (both in Fly and Swift) can obviously be freed up, and I don't even have to enhance Fly. Which is cool, I guess...

Very intriguing idea, with what sounds like a feasible way to pull it off (then again, I don't know much about what's doable and what's not, haha). I totally dig the concept, and would love to see this. That being said, I don't think you could call it a blast (Ranged) set. Unfortunately, it floats in between. You are starting from range, but the actual attack is melee. I actually see this as a future possibility of how to expand Pool Powers (if they every choose to). Adding a few of these types of powers to the Speed and/or Teleport Pools would add a ton of more customization possibilities for characters. By that I mean that someone who wanted to build a "speedster" type character could take one of the melee power sets (such as martial arts or super strength) but augment/compliment it with attacks from an expanded power pool, choosing fewer powers from the primary set, and more from the power pool.

Granted, I think something like this is a little ways off, but again, I'm all for it.