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No I understand. I know where I'm loved -pouts and sulks in a corner-

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You don't get an excuse! You came in after the fact.

So nyeh.

Much apologies to everyone I forgot when making that post, by the by. >> I was kind of doing it in a rush, and foolishly going off memory.

Which is like a steel cheese grater - rusty and fulla holes.

I stared longingly into my third cup of coffee. Normally I only drink one cup, but by the weather in the air and a dank feeling in my heart, I knew today would be a three cup affair. An affair to remember, or if I was lucky, one to forget. Sighing, I held my head in my hands and stared at the long list of projects and requests laid out before me, notes and papers strewn across the tiny, lamp-lit desk like fallen soldiers at Cemetary Ridge. Planning and duty had been failings then, and were shaping up to be failings now.

I glanced up, and looked around the room. The usual crowd was in tonight, laughing and playing away like they always did. But I didn't have time to play, today - I didn't even have time to observe the fun. Doctor Sackperson and his feline foil were at it again. Alan Pogomain had stopped in, ailing from some past adventure and looking for more. The poor [censored]. Then there were the lovely ladies, Ms. Tarby and Fey, and that weird kid Cap'n Amazing. But he was a good kid, all the same.

Just another, average day to everyone else. But for me? It was a three-cup day. I glanced back down, and noticed the empty mug. Sighing, I turned to the barbot, and frowned, "Hit me again, S4M. It's gonna be a long one."

*Slides in, wearing a nice, crisp clean suit. Adjusts her glasses, and sits on a stool.*

Coffee. Irish.

*Sits grumpily, in true noir detective fashion, while waiting. Probably doing an inner monologue about her morning, in exhaustive detail.*

Anyone else see the thread title, and debate segueing into 'U Can't Touch This' by M.C. Hammer?

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I say Bayani is cherrypicking the best costume artists for himself! I say we make him pair up with this guy instead.

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...is it wrong I'm more disturbed by 'Granny Flash' in the chat box?

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Oops. Someone took me seriously again. Gosh darn it, I need to be more careful!

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I know, right?

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it can lead to a lot of pointless arguing back and forth about stuff that didn't even matter

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So, basically this thread?

And neither term would be incorrect. You claim Arachnos is a faction and it would be wrong to lump the Circle of Thorns in a similar faction (of villains) with them because they work at odds to each other, yet conveniently ignore how frequently Arachnos does the exact same thing.

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Does what same thing in particular? Because technically speaking, there's a lot of things that Arachnos does that sort of screw with the average. I mean, are we going to bust out with an itemized list of infractions, or are we okay listing just one thing in particular?

Any faction is prone to in-fighting, and any alignment is prone to having one group or individual at odds with another. I don't necessarily see how that refutes my point, which was nothing more then not only do Arachnos and the Circle of Thorns work at cross-purposes (to the point of viewing each other as kill-on-sight), but the only link of commonality between them is that they are both Villainous organizations with wildly differing views, goals, and methods (in particular what methods they use to make you cease life functions).

You need far more commonality then that to suggest a faction, unless you're using the term improperly.

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Thanks for answering your own question with a baseless assumption.

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Hmmm....Maybe if i can figure out what I was assuming I'll remember what it was that I was asking.

Btw, I think u missed my point.

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You've missed mine frequently. I'd say at the least in that regard, we're even.

EDIT: Though, to be less of a snotty bint (I'm having a rough day trying to do tech-support for people that don't get or want to get computer information; This is why my preferred field is journalism. :&lt, my entire point is that when you start cramming players (that is to say, actual living, thinking people - or we can at least assume they're thinking for the sake of argument) into groups or clusters, you start to form pre-concieved ideas about the group that you then attribute to the individual person just for being a (perceived) member of that group.

I had another set of examples lined up, but again, religion/politics factor, and I make it a personal point to avoid those topics on a forum. Sorry about the HUGE delay in this edit, as previously mentioned annoyance sprung up mid-edit and I had to wander off to beat it with a hammer until it stopped being annoying.

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It's technically not polite, in that what if the person isn't exclusively one or the other, or is the other, and is just visiting on that side? Some people are really sensitive about that kind of thing

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Im still not gettin why it's 'technically not polite'. Well at least not any more that the general & common 'you guys' grouping. But that fits with alignment and ANY form of 'group' ie villain. Silly.

Sorry i dont live my life walkin on glass for those with skin that thin.

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Thanks for answering your own question with a baseless assumption.

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And even if used properly, it's still not exactly the best (or most polite) term.

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Umm...what? Why would it not be polite?

I sometimes use faction to describe the group the mob belongs to, ie Hallions, Rikti, etc. (Sometimes I use sect) But if someone wants to use it to describe hero/villain, go for it.

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It's technically not polite, in that what if the person isn't exclusively one or the other, or is the other, and is just visiting on that side? Some people are really sensitive about that kind of thing, and depending on the context used (specifically in the derogatory), it can lead to a lot of pointless arguing back and forth about stuff that didn't even matter until it was put into a specific context or phrased incorrectly.

I'd go into real-world example mode here, but unfortunately, I'm not sure how to keep that civil and not delve into religion or politics for it. :/

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While 'alignment' might be a better fit, 'faction' is not used improperly.

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I dunno, I think it is, but it really depends heavily on context. And even if used properly, it's still not exactly the best (or most polite) term.

The only time that I can see it being proper is from a metagame point of view, referring specifically to players that play a hero or villain, but given the fact that many people can and do play both sides, that's rather incorrect in trying to claim that somehow what side one plays somehow makes all that big of a difference in anything at all.

Trying to pigeonhole players into neat stereotypes works about as well as it does in trying to do the same thing to those people in a real-world environment - poorly, and woefully inaccurate for the most part.

From a game standpoint, Alignment is the better fit, with individuals belonging to X or Y faction within that alignment. Used that way, the term faction is fine.

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As per The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary Thumb Index Edition:

Alignment:

4. Bringing into (esp. political) agreement or alliance; a grouping of parties, powers, etc.

Faction:

2. A group or class of people; spec. a (self-interested or turbulent) party, esp. in politics

Are villains not a group (A number of people or things regarded as forming a unity or whole on the grounds of some mutual or common relation or purpose, or classed together because of a degree of similarity) or class (A group of people or things having some attribute in common) of people?

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Villainy itself includes, at it's greatest focal points, a collection of multiple groups that are not interested in the welfare or needs of other groups within the system. Each group is out for itself, and can be more or less considered to only be working together in the loosest sense possible (IE: They're forced into light cooperation almost entirely by Arachnos, and this is only rarely [particularly only with things important to Arachnos] enforced).

I don't think calling them a 'faction' is exactly doing any of the villain groups proper justice. A moral alignment, however, is far more general, and the most general use in this case. An alignment can contain a faction, but a faction cannot (by the definition presented) contain an alignment (which is a greater classification of a number of groups, rather then being one specific group).

In other words: Using the most general terms, Alignment fits better then Faction.

EDIT for clarification:

Arachnos is a faction. The Circle of Thorns is a faction. Both have very different goals and aims, and due to Arachnos containing a sub-faction (Mu) that is diametrically opposed (in that they don't wanna be blowed up) to the Circle of Thorns, it would be a disservice to lump them into the same general faction of 'villain'.

Longbow is a faction. The Vanguard is a faction. They both have very different views on how one should go about saving the world, to the point that they regularly distrust each other. Lumping them into the same general faction of 'Hero' is likely to gain one an earful (at best) from one or both sides of the issue.

However, for the most part, we can all agree that Arachnos and the Circle are of a very villainous alignment, and the Longbow and Vanguard are on the opposite spectrum of being a heroic alignment (though the Vanguard has a more loose, whatever-it-takes view, and technically speaking the Arachnos will use whoever sounds like a good patsy that day as well).

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Let this be another lesson to anyone that confidently posts "never going to happen" in response to a suggestion they don't like.

Add side-switching to the long list of things that were "never going to happen". I love this game....there is simply no such thing as "never going to happen".

[/ QUOTE ]I don't believe I ever said side switching was never going to happen... but I did say I didn't want it to happen. I still feel that way, but I'm torn, since the prospect of more canon regarding Praetorian Earth is enticing. (Also, more badges for my badger characters)

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Pretty much this, but if they do it right, I doubt I'll be all that upset in the long run.

Though, I do recall going on record at least a few times stating that it was statistically unlikely at the time it was suggested (and every darn time it was suggested that week). Much like anything else involving statistics, though, there's always that chance you could be wrong.

Guess it was far more likely then I thought. Some of the other stuff I've knocked in the past, though, is probably not. :3

This expansion is heresy, and this forum shall be cleansed by the righteous firepower of the Imperial Guard.

Expect Exterminatus in the next ten minutes.

For the emperor!

(P.S.: Doom~!)

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Thanks! I like Androphonissa and Maiden Light a lot.

What about color palette? Everywhere I look (not just in CoH but in Marvel / DC) all I see are red, gold, blue. I was thinking orange/maroon since it is a bit different. Or going crazy and trying one of Nazghul's Color Palette Contest themes. Not sure yet.

Anyways, thank for the inspiration!

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Feel free to use one of the palettes. I'm sure the gang would love to see what you come up with.

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Seriously. >> Most of those palettes are awesome.

As far as the Super Strong Super Babe goes, here's a few more classic 'big name' examples to think about:

Power Girl
Supergirl
Caitlin Fairchild
Ms. Marvel
Big Barda
Sabra
Frenzy

Aaand so on, ad inifitum.

There's a few common elements between female bricks, but I always sort of make it a point to design the costume around the character's personality as much as their powerset, as well. :3

...Plenty of good looks out there.

Was more disappointed I didn't respond earlier, honestly.

Usually I pounce at first draw (pun not intended, but recognized as there) for this kind of stuff. >.>

Darn, a bit late on the boat here. >.> But, anything to potentially help out a Wassy!

Karen Stelvind, evil genius.

Some things can only be said simply at the beginning, snowballing into complexity as time goes along - who would have thought that a former MIT graduate turned local weather girl for WSPDR would skyrocket into the CEO of a new technological research firm that's slowly getting the attention of the world? Fired for a 'crazy' idea of creating a series of mobile weather control units (dubbed 'Weatherbots' by a younger Ms. Stelvind) by her employers, she set out to prove them wrong in any way possible as a salve for her wounded pride.

And somewhere along the way to the top, forgot to come back and stomp flat the station (and their resident reporter, Amanda Vines. You hear that, Amanda?! You will rue the day!) that so sorely hurt her fragile ego. Finding investors across the globe for her insane scheme of controlling the weather, she instead poured the idea into a co-op firm (Sigils & Synapse) to advance all aspects of humanity through the combination of science, technology, magic, and alchemy. Many dirty deeds were committed in the name of advancement, from shattering the vaults of bank doors, to backstabbing Arachnos itself in a number of schemes all designed for the noble, lofty goal of The Greater Good.

Now slowly becoming one of the leading edges in technological research (though not quite the juggernaut of Crey Biotech Industries or Vanguard), Karen's shady deals in the Rogue Isles and rather lax recruitment policies are slowly coming to light as some bigger scheme looms under the surface.. and her crack team of security enforcers and 'researchers' start gaining some notoriety as cut-throat and deadly mercenaries.

It's gonna be a cold, cold day in Cap Au Diable, in the future. As soon as Karen stops playing at CEO and goes back to the source of her determination - showing the world, and WSPDR, just what she's truly capable of.

EDIT: I'll get some new, updated shots of Karen's costumes later - she's got some really fun ones now, but the linked one is still my favorite. And probably always will be.

What to say, to what is most possibly the biggest name on the Art Forums.. A guy that's been here since I started playing, and has been consistently nifty the entire time. And has an art collection that is the envy of art hunters everywhere!

Oh. Right.

Happy Birthday, TA.

And I don't say that (specifically) to just anyone, mang.

Enemy group adjusted - though, if you're wanting to see just those changes, the Synaptic Field Test arc (#53003) is probably better suited to that purpose.

It's just one mission, and now forces spawning of both boss types for the solo player.

EDIT: Though, they're not required objectives. Just finding/clicking the glowie in that missions SHOULD end it. But, as it's a field test of the enemy group.. busting up as many of them as possible is recommended and encouraged.

*Sets up the lawn chair and gets the popcorn.*

...What?

Arr.

May the candles on yer cake, burn like cities in yer wake!

Felicitous Annual Hatching, Deebs, though I somehow feel the 'hatching' part is a bit too literal for a giant gecko fer my liking!

(But no, seriously. Best wishes. :3)

D'awww! It's Chibi-Soultrain-chan! That turned out fantastic.

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I wouldn't suggest this as a zone event, only an event within the AE building. On the hero side it would be something similar to a police raid, there might not be any charges filed, but it disrupts business. Honestly, I don't care. Just an idea to do something that changes AE from its currently lvlfiesta.

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We would be much better served by fixing spawns whose "risk vs. reward" ratios are greatly skewed, than to do something that would punish legitimate users as well.

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I'm a fox, and I approve this message.

I'd be down for a new poll.

People have come and gone. New people have flooded in. We've had a good, long run to survey the land...

And we've got a new set of people that are (from the look and sound of it) at least willing to seriously consider shaking things up on occasion, as far as developers go.

Couldn't hurt.

Very nifty! I can definately dig it.

It was sort of neat seeing how various parts of it came together. >_> I do love the way your colors turn out. How many times have I said that to date? ._.