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Originally Posted by AresSupreme

Post Op We'll Talk: 9800 points
Used 2 be good:9000 points
Reacharound ftw: 8600 points
I NO ANN: 5800 points
dUmb: 5500 points
Eternal P A I N: 4450 points

Are these last weeks standings? Or has it been 2 weeks or something since the update? Because if this is from last week the new numbers dont seem to add up unless i'm missing something 0.o

Originally Posted by Fire_Minded

By personally owning a Elec/Elec Tanker.Id suggjest Elec/Elec.The Lightning Rod attack that you can use as a Alpha on mobs not only looks cool and increases your survivability, it also hits pretty hard and knocks down the mob upon using it as a opener.

AoE is KING when it comes to Tanking.I dont care what anyone says to the contrary to it.Its a fact.

Footstomp.....KO Blow.....*Twirls finger in the air*

Footstomp doesnt compair with Lightning Rod, Thunder Strike, Chain Induction, Jaccob's Ladder, and even Thunder Clap will add far more midigation and survivability to your Armor set without having to worry about buying even Tough from your fighting Pool.

If people belive Single Target Oriented sets are the answer for Elec/ then they have to acctually seriously ask why thats belived.

Iv heard the arguments about how the Epic Pool will give thme more AoE potential, and how glorious Perma-Rage is.I call Shinanigans on these statements.

I wouldnt bother going with Stone Melee either.Its got 1 damage Aoe, and 1 short Stun AoE....So not going to effect your survivability enough, and certainly doesnt add to the damage output a Tanker can do on a team.Reality check...It Sucks.

Im surprised people suggjest Scranker Melee sets for Tankers.Then call the Tankers that do ALOT more damage, as well as AoE Damage the Scrankers.

If you want Electrical Armor to be powerful enough for you to play, get a set that doesnt suck.Heck, even Mace or Axe would be far better choices due to the massive midigation and better AoE.

Originally Posted by Fire_Minded

Granted the idea of making a DP character, reguardless if its a Corruptor or a Defender Class with Kinetics or Radiant Aura makes me raise a eye-brow and say NO WAY IN HELL!Thats just my personal opinion and shouldnt offend anyone in any way.

I find Rad/ and Kin/ to be lack luster sets for any AT other then the possibilities of a capable Controller.This also is just my opinion.

However appauling I find the use of these sets, theres plenty of ways to fix the NO ROOM issue.

First one is my personal favorite.Use Ninja Run instead of taking a Travel pool.

By level 40 you can easly have Swift, Health, and Stamina on any character build, and be shy only 1 single power between both of your chosen sets for your build.

Iv been curious as to why people have such a issue with lacking powers and having to choose carefully from a staggering amount of power choices due to bad build designs.

The easiest example would be to use the example of 1 of my characters.My SD/Axe Tanker.

It has every single power from top to bottom for its Axe Secondary, and is only missing Grant Cover from his Shield set at level 40.Yes, he has Swift, Health, and Stamina from the Fittness Pool as well.Currently using SOs, he has no Endurance Issues, nore does he have any issues in the Damage/Defense Departments either.

I still have starting at level 41 a Epic Pool choice.This is how I build every character iv got.I litterally dont short change my builds like many people do by taking the Fighting Pool, as well as the Stealth Pool, or even any of the Travel Pools.

Too many people build for Defense, or whatever they feel the character needs, and the majority of the time it gimps it completly.

Iv been capable of taking builds like a Traps/Rad and Tanking for a team when a Tanker couldnt be found or we had a horrible Tanker on the team.I held the Agro and dished good damage because I didnt have to skip anything, but I did skip Web Grenade, because Honsetly...really?Same thing with my Dark/Dark Defender.It could grab the Agro, and hold it like a Tanker.

None of my builds need to take the Fighting Pool, or a Travel or Stealth Pool.

As for DP/Kin being the new Hotness?I havent seen one on Freedom yet.Iv seen alot of DP/EM Blasters, and like 1 DP/Dev, and I dont even recall seeing any Defenders using DP.I rarely play Villians Side, so I cant make a statement for sure on Corruptors.

Long Story short, if you say youv got no room on your build to take a power, then you may be doing something wrong and short changing the ability of your character for a lesser helpful power from the pools.

Originally Posted by MeanNVicious

What are the GR changes that will make Fort's and Bane's more effective ? I havent heard talk of this yet.

Thanky.

Originally Posted by BrandX

If you're sticking to fight club, Dual Blade/Regen.

Originally Posted by Charnell

Really? I mean I know I play on the empty eu servers but they are really that bad?

On my blaster that is at HP cap with some decent loldefense, some of the stalkers in there can unleash a downright hailstorm of pain on me.

I know they are decent players with expensive builds and they really hit hard. I went in the other day just stood next to the base and two of them opened up with sharks and even pumping my heal and hitting hiber didnt make any difference. All those procs and ticks was just crazy. Dead in about 2-3 seconds- heal didnt do anything and hiber didnt kick in anywhere near in time.

Gotta love looking at yourself in an ice cube then dieing like 8 seconds later.

But yeh I must just suck compared to you uber guys. I mean to attain the level of skill where i can actually leave the room and let a stalker hammer on my blaster and not die. Sheesh if only I had skills such as those.

I didnt really mind stalkers pre abomination pvp. At least they didnt have sharks then and WASD actually worked as a counter to AS.

But it seems to me now after a 6 month break that the major factor in most builds is the sheer amount of cash spent on the builds.

I could hold my own on my cheaper builds in zonal, between 250m up to about 600m against more expensive builds pre abomination. But now I can really feel the difference in performance.

But yeh as Union has only a tiny pvp population now the majority of pvp'ers all seem to have very expensive builds. And while im not singling out stalkers as especially unbalanced I really cant see how ANY build could afk in front of most of the stalkers on Union. Maybe a scrap or tank for a few seconds.

Originally Posted by Charnell

Never? I take it you are insinuating that you have "never' been killed by a solo stalker?

Originally Posted by Amy_Amp

Wrong, Earth has been known to beat Mind and Ill in some cases.

Guide to Controller Damage Vs 1 Target

WarTroller Single Target Damage Testing Videos

Originally Posted by Fire_Minded

Im scratching my head and trying to figure out why anyone would say Earth Control is lacking or weak in any way.

I have a Earth/Sonic Controller, and a Earth/Earth Dominator, and they dont lack a thing.

Its prolly the same people that use Mids and forget that its a imperfect program that lies more then anything.

Ahh well, Flame on!

Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot

Kick and Boxing are usually only taken for Tough and Weave.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

Arguing from a pespective that has used SS/SJ on every toon since way back when... shouldn't be enough to verify what teleport is capable of without using it first.

I look at incoming hit rolls as well. I also keep my TP power button on my tray to see when it's available or know when it is not. I know that some poweers will supress me for up to 8 seconds... I learned that toggling on invis reduces that time to about 4 seconds... I started dong the same kinda tests for over a year with other powers and their TS durations. What affected them and what powers didn't and for how long. Thanks though for explaining the way TS works. I'm sure it has been helpful to many.

Thanks for listening too. I'll come back to this when you all are ready. btw go verify some ****. Stop riding on old credentials.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

Powers that affect self, as well as other powers can reduce TS time attained from both attacking and getting hit. TS time from attacking is much much shorter than the time supressed from being attacked. With enough recharge on Invis or PFF for example, TS doesn't really threaten a good teleporter unless they're up against 10+ in a zone or something. Assuming they can stay in the air of course. Attack, invis, suppression over in less than a second.

TS does not stack like effects do. Getting hit with 3 powers in a row or DoT means that TS ends after the first application of TS, it doesn't continue until the 3rd power's TS duration ends or for the duration of a DoT... Another round of TS will be applied if this small window of no TS isn''t taken advantage of though, so it is often missed when using any other form of travel, and is often why I don't recommend TP to those brand new to PvP. It does take practice.


[EDIT:] To clarify. The hardest part of this appoach can be having the patience to NOT attack when attacked/webbed/outnumbered (and outnumbered) so that you don't create more TS. Waiting 2 secs for that window can be very difficult and/or fatal at times.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

This suppression can be reduced to less than a second. Teleport benefits from the powers that reduce TS more so than any other Travel.

Teleport works best when paired with a travel that allows you to stay in the air. Hover > fly. Or alone as an alternative to Hibernate when it's time to get away.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

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Originally Posted by Dahjee

Um, He has both... Grav/Ta.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

Although the duration of the -regen effect in EMP arrow is shorter than many other powers that offer it... very few of those if any combine the -Regen and -Recov with a decent hold.

A well timed EMP can mean the end for just about any toon

Originally Posted by Xanatos

While I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. Entangling arrow has an accuracy bonus of 95% and an overall accuracy value of 240%. Surely that would be enough?

Thanks for the advice though. Dimension Shift is definitely making it into version 2.0

Originally Posted by Angelic_EU

Does Bane need a +Preception Proc to see stealth heroes in PvP?

And thanks for the build

Originally Posted by TrueDarkLord

well is finally here...time to work on my new fire/elec Dom named "The Ninth Dial" (<----barrier gets it )