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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project

Wrong. It atrophied because this game was designed from the get go to be PvE, and as such has always had a dedicated PvE population. Nearly all of the playerbase has no interest in PvP and never has. Even in PvP's heydey it was lucky if the PvP population was 10% of the community.

Originally Posted by War-Nugget

Heck, IOs are not a deciding factor. A well skilled SO blaster vs. an unskilled IO blaster... the SO blaster will win.

Originally Posted by PowerFlame

<3 my earth/fire. thanks PerilX.

Originally Posted by The_Five_Katras

Just wanted to chime in that I thought this new Azuria from the first post(since it looks like there was originally another remake version there) was a pretty awesomely done and would not be opposed to an upgrade like that.

Originally Posted by ZedOmega

Why write "draw your own conclusions" when you clearly mean "draw my conclusions?" When you don't know the facts, as you clearly say we don't, it's called leaping to a conclusion, or "making stuff up." The boards could use less of that.

Originally Posted by Stryph

That could be taken both ways. It could mean that NCSoft has officially got back enough money in revenue to pay the cost that went to developing the game. I wouldn't really say it's due to a lack of players playing per capita - not unless they plan to shut everything down a year from now.

Originally Posted by Reiska

I'm going to wager a guess that (s)he doesn't like the kind of player attitudes and/or drama the typical PvPer brings to the game. Mind you, CoX PvPers are, in my experience, a cut well above the "typical PvPer" of other MMOs on average, but I've run into my fair share of jerks even in CoX.

Originally Posted by MaestroMavius

My thoughts?

I find it laughable when anyone chimes in on the 'paying for powers' debate with the battlecry of "It's been done before with COV and GR!!!1@!!" For the exact reasons you listed above.

Yes, while it's technically correct that we're locked out of 4 sets if we don't have GR. I simply can't view that as paying for powersets. It's an expansion I'm paying for, that happens to include 4 power sets, among a plethora of other goodies. Trying to claim that it has precedent because we have to buy the expansion to play the sets is silly.
Unless I'm missing something and buying Beam Gun set also gets me 3 or more new zones and arcs ala CoV and GR it just doesn't equal out.

However, that's just a personal gripe. I dislike when people that have a legitimate case use barely thought out reasons to justify it, when all they need to do is let it stand on it's own merit. All it does it weaken the case instead of reinforcing it.

No, simply put, no matter how anyone wants to 'Spin' it. Our $15 a month has given us every powerset (bar expansions) for free. This will change with Freedom and...

That is a really good thing! Seriously.

I gave much thought to it when F2P was announced. I knew we'd see powersets being sold eventually. At 1st I really didn't like the idea. Feeling like my 7 years of loyalty wasn't being considered, since the longtime players will be the ones wanting new sets the most (having played all the others)

I also don't go for the "Just use you monthly PP stipend" excuses as that ignores the fact that spending the PP on powersets negates the ability to spend it on anything else... No, fact is ViP's will be expected to shell out extra cash on top of the Sub from here on out. That too, is a good thing.

What changed my mind on the issue? What got me to go from being upset over it to actually wishing it would launch sooner? I realized the potential.

We've gotten used to getting 1 or 2 new sets a year. Sometimes not even that. This new model has the potential to put numerous new sets in our hands. By taking in money for specific items/features they can then turn around and put more time into creation of more. I realized that this new model means we'll get sets we've been asking for that otherwise would've never been created. That makes me smile.

I have no problem with having to spend $10 for a single powerset since I'll get 10 times the use out of it then the equivalent $10 server transfer. If it means Blasters get Martial Arts secondary sooner rather than later! It means Staff fighting and Street Fighting and numerous other sets get to see the light of day when they otherwise wouldn't.

That is a very good thing indeed!

Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim

All in favor? If people really are interested in a roleplay meet 'n greet I'll set up some sort of RP event/OOC meeting and post it to the Virtue forums.

Originally Posted by Lucky666

who cares at this point pvp is a dead sytem that like 12 people use.

If people want real pvp they aint playing this game for it.

Originally Posted by Drakos

Mabye they will set it back to the PvP at lanuch, one can hope.

For those who don't know, there was no PvP at launch.

Originally Posted by Zombie Man

How can I follow you into a thread in which I posted first?

You stop following me into my threads with your deliberate pot-stirring. Good day, sir!

Originally Posted by Zombie Man

You are again called out on your constant negativity and you feign surprise... again. Sorry you're being treated like you treat us.

Originally Posted by Von Krieger

Yes, they plan to remove PvP from the entire game except from that little hidden island in Cap au Diable that is going to be made into an entire zone where 12 year olds can question each others sexuality and hurl epithets at one another and leave the rest of the server alone.

And I left the information out of the show notes just to spite you.

Cause lolpvp.

Honestly, it's Tunnel Rat. Talking about Visual Effects of the new powersets. I have no idea how you'd expect there to be a mention of anything PvP related in there, or there to magically be some PvP related information that I didn't drop into the original post.

Or are you just hosing down every thread you can with your pet personal issue just for the lulz?