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Quote:2/3 by what measure? It's not by number of targets I don't think. I didn't use a timer or anything, so I don't objectively know if it is so by time spent, but it didn't subjectively seem that we spent 2/3 of our time fighting AVs. Perhaps 2/3 by hit points? Again, I didn't check the totals or do any number logging to see if AV hit point amount to 2/3 of the total hit points of the enemies.Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Some two-thirds of the BAF raid is fighting AVs.
I based my impressions on the number of times that I attempted to use ET on a boss level enemy versus the number of times my team mates defeated the enemy before the animation time had expired. I didn't log the details so I don't know the exact ratio, but I can say that I gave up using ET before the first trial was done and didn't try it at all for the second one I ran on that toon.
Also, assuming the 2/3 (of something) figure you provided is accurate, that means that for 1/3 of (the something) the Energy Melee power set has it's two largest attacks sidelined and is limited to it's lesser attacks.
Energy Melee only compares well to other Brute primaries when Energy Transfer is included. W/o ET and TF, Energy Melee doesn't have too much going for it, imho. -
Quote:Exactly.Originally Posted by JKedan
I'm not sure how "Only use TF/ET on AVs" and "Spam Energy Punch/Barrage" do much to address the OPs issue.
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Quote:No, having a 16 man team makes for a different environment than regular teaming.Originally Posted by Coin
That will apply for the entire game though, surely?
I keep it for when I run low level content and I don't have access to ET. Also for when I get hit with some massive slow attacks. But my normal attack chain skips it.Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
I rarely use Total Focus when I;m doing normal missions, fighting Lt's and Minions, even when soloing, I just find no need for it, my lower tier powers do the job fine and for less end usage as well.
Quite possibly you're right about this. I am not so familiar with all of the power sets.Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
I agree YMMV, but this argument could be levied at a lot of powers in the game.
What I am trying to say isn't solely about individual powers as it is about how these two significant powers fit in the EM power SET. If these two powers are not usable in a meaningful way for a significant chunk of the Incarnate Trial, that means that the Energy Melee power set suffers greatly in it's over all effectiveness in those situations -
Quote:You're right. I can. That's one of the reasons why the set isn't entirely worthless. The content outside of AVs is where the issue is.Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
I believe there are several AV fights in those trials. I'm pretty sure your team can't destroy an AV before you can get one of your slower attacks off.
Part of the issue is that in addition to the new high-end AoEs etc there' also more people in a team than before. There are many more attacks going off than on a regular team.
Cool.Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
I've been playing EN/En as my main since day one, I feel perfectly useful on a trial, team, whatever.
I agree with you about which attacks to use and when to use them.Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
I tend to use my big hit attacks like Total Focus only AV's and EB's. As the OP says, pretty pointless using it on a minion, dead before it even hits. I've got my smaller attacks slotted for recharge so I can keep up a steady stream of attacks, especially with things like Energy Punch which hits fast enough.
Besides, wasting it on unneeded Total Focus just wastes endurance anyway.
It's just a case of knowing what to use and more importantly, when.
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I just spent a few paragraphs the other day explaining how EM wasn't worthless nor pointless, about how there're ways to adapt to the long animation times, about how to use that time wisely, about how EM doesn't really suck.
But after finally getting to run some incarnate stuff...well EM is good for soloing and non-incarnate stuff.
I already don't try to use Total Fucus on teams. TF just ends up being a corpse pounder on a decent team. But on the incarnate trials I had to give up Energy Transfer as well. Usually if I can get to the boss a little ahead of the group, I can get in a ET or two. But even when I initiated the attack when the boss was at full health, the boss would be defeated before the attack would deal damage.
The incarnate powers are exacerbating the log animation time problem of Energy Melee. EM is a fine enough set in most situations, but in those trials, I found myself having to forgo the two strongest attacks in the whole set because they were a waste of time--dealing damage to the already dead. Energy Melee without total Focus and without Energy Transfer is about worthless and pointless.
I hope something is don to make it a more fun and playable set in the new end game.
Perhaps, if the animation times aren't going to be adjusted, the damage could be dealt at the beginning of the animation so that it has a chance to do something useful before docking my toon endurance and health.
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The ones I just ran we split into teams. And the first team done got to be in the cut scene.
Didn't seem to cause any problems.
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Quote:As far as game mechanics go, he's a villain. However, if I were to RP him, he'd be more a rogue or vigilante being filial, benevolent and upright w/o regard to legality. The way the Outlaws of the Marsh worked, this could include people who drugged travelers then turned them into dumplings to sell to other travelers.Originally Posted by SupaFreak
That's what I'm talking about All Hell! I do need to know if they Hero or Villain and primary server. Thanx!
But he will remain a villain as far as the game goes Frenzy is just too awesome, imho.
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A millenium ago, everyone knew of Yan Qing's prowess, but none could discover what style he practiced, so they called it Mizong meaning 'Lost Track.' Mizong earned him fame as one of the 108 gallants with no regard for the law who revolted against the corrupt govt - the Outlaws of the Marsh.
Yan Qing met an Immortal and bargained to become immortal himself. If he could best the Immortal, he'd receive the 'secret to being alive centuries from now.' The Immortal was pleasantly surprised Yan Qing could honor the bargain. However, the Immortal seemingly tricked Yan Qing and gave him an elixir that caused him to be dead but preserved for centuries.
In the late 20th century he was discovered and accidentally revived by archaeologists when there was an unexplained reaction between the elixir and the experimental omicron particle reflection technique used to see inside his body. Since he has awakened, he has not aged and has had amazing powers of recuperation. He may indeed be an Immortal now.
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Quote:I remember being tickle as can be when I sold my LotGs for 15-20 milOriginally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
No, they used to go for 40million-60million but this was several years ago, (back before the AE). I remember acquiring a Ragnarok set for my Blaster at those prices.
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Quote:Or that inf is easier to come by. The amount of inf earned by 50s by defeating enemies has almost doubled.Originally Posted by Praying_Mantiss
Basic economics dictates that demand is up, but why?
I don't think any more than before, but I have no way of knowing.Quote:Originally Posted by Praying_Mantiss
Are a lot of people purchasing influence (personally that "chaps my hide")?
My toons have a whole hella lot more inf than a few years back. I made my money by selling drops, and working the market.
In the niches I follow, prices have all declined since I20. I suspect because everyone is playing their 50s and playing them for longer than they were a short while ago.Quote:Originally Posted by Praying_Mantiss
Is it because of the new issue Incarnates?
One of my niches saw sales prices drop in the neighborhood of 50%.
I don't follow Hecatombs, but in the purples I do follow prices have taken a nosedive recently by about 1/3. Now they're selling for about 400mil-450mil whereas previously they were selling for about 500mil to 625mil+
I would say yes, you are missing something. When the prices are high, you sell.Quote:Originally Posted by Praying_Mantiss
Will people cancel their subscriptions because they can't afford the time or influence to optimize their characters? Am i missing something about acquiring these purple recipes?
High prices mean that when you get a purple drop, you can sell it for a lot of inf.
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Quote:400mil!! 400mil!! WOW! The price has dropped!Originally Posted by Praying_Mantiss
Wow! Hecatomb 400 mil!
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The year numbers are too small and I can't find my glasses.
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I think so. Unless it's different than other weapons.
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redraw only applies if the weapon is not already out, iirc.
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Double Merits twice in the same week!!!
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You may not need Energy Mastery. My WPs run sprint and super speed all the time and only rarely run into end issues
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Quote:It's not an either/or.Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
Does anyone play an EM/ brute's or is the 6 seconds animations for 2 attacks just too much?
I play mine and the longer animations are just too much.
I won't roll another EM rute till EM is "fixed" though. Other sets just offer more.
I think useless is a bit of a stretch. It's not as useful as it was, but it's still useful.Quote:Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
EM/ seem's pretty useless now
By some other sets. Idk the numbers to know if it's a lot of them or not. extra power pools help.Quote:Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
easily out DPSed by alot of other things
I am not sure what this meansQuote:Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
or you'll just end up dieing cause there's no way to hit buffs.
Totally up to you.Quote:Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
I asked cause i was thinking of useing my EM/invul, but it seem's pretty pointless now.
I use the animation times to eat, drink and chat. I also use the animation time to target my next victim.
With Total Focus, you can initiate the attack and then click a glowie while the attack is animating. That's another way to get some use out of that awesome hang time.
Another thing with TF is that is you have Super Speed on, the travel suppression is just about over by the time the animation is done, so it feels like you weren't suppressed at all. -
Quote:QQ TTOriginally Posted by Aggelakis
As seen in the announcement forum, the WST is bugged and won't reward the Notice. During Thursday's maintenance they are changing the WST back to Psyche/Mantis. Until then, Posi/Tarikoss is only good for the extra merits, and for sub-50s, the extra XP.
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Quote:I got what appeared to be a form letter email that was similar to what you're saying. In my e-mail, however, the subject actually was the bonus reward merits. Once I explained that the bonus reward merits were fine and it was the NotW they bumped my case up the line.Originally Posted by Daeron
Unfortunatley support at this time is not taking seriously the problem. I have been back and forth several times and they do not believe that the Notice of the Wells are not dropping. It has been suggested that the players are not running the Weekly Strike Target TF/SF for the first time this week, they are suggesting that we are cheating and I will have none of it.
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My mouse scroll works fine in Win7
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Quote:Sweeeeeeeet!Originally Posted by Aggelakis
I20 changed shards to award to any even-con or higher enemy, not just level 50 or higher enemy.
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Quote:If you petition, you may be able to save yourself some time by pointing out that you got your bonus reward merits and it's only the Notice of the Well that didn't get awarded.Originally Posted by Arilou
One problem seems to be that neither Posi1 nor Tarikoss is actually properly awarding the Notices...
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If you petition, you may be able to save yourself some time by pointing out that you got your bonus reward merits and it's only the Notice of the Well that didn't get awarded.
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Tarikoss didnt drop a NotW for us either