X_treme

the team we used last night in the international pvp against LNM was as close to perfect as could be imo, easily the best 8man team i've ever played with

Shaman X, Empath Defender
Dr Mambo, Illu/Kin Troller
Quicksand, Earth/Kin Troller
Gatling, Elec/Energy Blaster
Bitter Ice, Ice/Energy Blaster
-zak-, Spines/Regen Scrapper
Max Powerz, Invul/Axe Tanker
Solid Sgt, Invul/Energy Tanker

thanks a lot mate, was great fun i think union fielded our strongest team ever tonight and it certainly showed it was still very hard for me and was great practise, dont think the score lines really showed how good u guys were and its amazing how u guys take defeat so graciously, its a pleasure fighting u...and winnin some 8man matches for a change cya next week

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I dont play these kind of battles in the Arenas (yet) so am not au fait with the dynamics but wouldnt a decent Granite tank with the presence pool be a boon? 3 taunts and damn near unkillable.

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Except that you can just run away from a Granite tank and there's no way in hell they'll be able to keep up with you. Of course, if you have a kinetics on your team with 3 runs in SB it's a different story.

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just jump on a box and laugh at the granite tank

i agree as the only people that turned up were 2 union teams, 1 french guy and 1 guy from defiant

if ur bruises have healed by i7 from our last 2 encounters then X3 will fight u again

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my plan at this point is to get SJ (only for resitans in CJ and Acro) + SS for speed. i would also be able to add fly (since its my fav travel) at lvl 50. can acro/CJ be run simultaniously as fly? if not im thinking of TP for escaping tarpatch,webgrenade and similar

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SS+SJ is probably the best travelpower combo for PvP, since you can still move around with slows on you if you can jump. Also, hasten and Acrobatics are incredibly useful. Yes, you can run Acrobatics and CJ at the same time as fly but it won't protect you from any -fly affects that get put on you. I wouldn't have it, but many others would. Oh, and don't take Acrobatics for the hold res. One controller will hit straight through it with one hold.

[/ QUOTE ] i personally think fly is awesome in PvP although u have to have SS or SJ as well for when u are -fly but i've only ever played one person who made -fly a problem for a considerable part of the match

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Dreadful Wail: is the Nova-like attacks usefull in PvP?

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No. AoEs generally are not very good in PvP, and nukes are even worse.


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with elecs thunderous blast being the exception

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what are ppls opinions on how the mm shud play? im toying with the idea of completely dropping all primary powers and playing as a dark defender, this wud free up more powers to keep myself alive which is a huge problem as a mm

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That's exactly what I've been thinking of. Actually looking for a lvl 40 */dark MM who's willing to try a Secondary only build out on test to see how effective it is.

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i'd try this but im only 37, i find the late 30s very boring so levelling quite slow my current PvP build has 6 dark powers so i will try playing as a dark defender among other tactics on tuesdays practise, hard to practise a mm in zones cos the pets just aggro NPCs and die so they're pointless

i've also tried group fly but u have to keep stopping or the pets don't keep up, the -acc wasnt too much of a prob but when u attack they all seperate so group fly for pets gets the thumbs down imo

i'll come along to represent Three Lions

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dude why'd u remove ur sig? whats the point in playing a game if u dont wanna be good at it? i encourage u to b uber, i was just pointing out that u shudnt lie about it

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Maybe the idea of you topping now is lost on you.. or maybe you don't know quite what I'm doing with my sig.. yea.. you don't..

and fyi X- I was GIVEN that title by Lost Samurai you half-witt.

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Lost_Samurai: way to go man, behold the almighty raz, the man who can slam the shadow shards, the unchallenged PvE god


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same as half the people here was given "quotes" by other people about them. Open your eyes.. instead of having personal flaming attacks against me, you might see something.

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rofl i give up, maybe u shud just pick ur toys up and get back in ur pram, last post on this thread from me

what are ppls opinions on how the mm shud play? im toying with the idea of completely dropping all primary powers and playing as a dark defender, this wud free up more powers to keep myself alive which is a huge problem as a mm

dude why'd u remove ur sig? whats the point in playing a game if u dont wanna be good at it? i encourage u to b uber, i was just pointing out that u shudnt lie about it

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and for record is has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING UBER

[/ QUOTE ]might wanna remove "unchallenged PvE God" and "I solo'd the shadow shard" from ur sig if it ain't about trying to make urself uber, not that i have a problem with u wantin 2 b uber, just dont lie about it
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But, as said, if all I'm gonna get is bullcrap from the likes of you.. whatever.. forget it :: I won't bother myself jsut to get flamed by two overrated PvP/Arena "uber wannabes" - stick to your PvP and keep out of my world (PvE).

[/ QUOTE ] sorry i'll ask permission next time i log into this game not in a PvP zone, does every1 have to pay a toll to be in ur world? and do u have any evidence to support ur claim that we're "two overrated PvP/Arena "uber wannabes"" or that we have ever cclaimed to be?

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boring maybe.. but its a challenge.. something this game lacks sometimes..

As for posting it here, I feel its a UNION - EVENT that one of its well known (I should hope I am) has done something "out of the ordinary" and "ONLY ON UNION THE HAPPENED".. hence the location

And if I wanted it easy.. I'd get a team to do it.. but I want as said.. a "challenge".

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errm, a challenge..? last time I did a TF solo, it was simple and easy..the TF adapts to the players in mission regardless to how many start. - I fail to see how this is a UNION event as its just you doing it. and none the less you are trying to make yourself sound "uber" by soling somthing that 100% of the server can do anwyay...

so err good luck!

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/em agree

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Clear Mind powerfull resist to mez and great boost to perception. 1 question tho to X, sicne hes got PvP experience on his Emp: will CM protect(or reduce) against toggle drop in PvP, just as in PvE?

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CM doesn't stop toggle dropping but it stops stuns, same as thaw, so it will protect allies toggles dropping due to stuns but it doesnt protect against toggle drop powers

just a couple of things to add to ur post:
CM protects against fear whereas iirc thaw doesnt.
Fort gives 30% to acc, dmg and def, Forge give 100% acc and 75% dmg.
R Auras can be rarely given out to multiple playrs in battle, i use them more to keep myself alive than others.
If u caan fit it in Rise of the pheonix could have very effective situational uses whereas resurrect has none.

And i agree with your conclusion

i couldnt say 100% but im pretty sure it affects those around the target but they have to be reasonably close which isnt really going to happen as people with snow storm will usually run, i no i've flown past a target who is snow stormed many times and it drops my fly for about half a second while i fly past

i play empath most of the time but i also play a kin too, SB and ID are awesome, SB will completely negate all slows that can be used on ur team as well as end recovery, ID gives mes protection, stopping ur team being held, and stops knockback and allows ur team to walk through bubbles, whirlwind etc...

With these two buffs ur team wud do very well with u just buffing them, if u cud give them inertial reduction they have free unsuppressed travel power. It is at this point that ur teams individual skills need to be worked on, with SB, ID and possibly IR there is very little that can stop them running so if they're dying a lot there tactics need working on.

Similarly other team mates can help too, one very effective tactic is getting ur brute to perma taunt people, try playing against Max Powerz as a killer and see how many kills u get, hes vvery annoying lol

with fly u can get away very easy and u can launch attacks without being seen, what more advantages do u need?

never ever take just fly as a travel power for PVP put with other travel powers it has moments of magic, theres soooo many -fly powers in the game for a reason...

i'll be there with sum1

was gonna put this in my sig bu its too long think this sums up PvP perfectly:
"Every morning in Africa, a Gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle... when the sun comes up, you'd better be running"

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Hmmm...what buffs would these be?
And how do your teammates look after themselves?
I'd be very interested to hear alternatives to healing (I'm not ready to accept every team needs a /thermal :P), but so far we haven't seem to run into a villain combination that pulls it off. Doens't mean it's not there tho.

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basically whatever set u go with keep the team buffed with all shields and mes protecct powers u have available, thats mostly what i do and sometimes they need heals but most of the time they can look after themselves, the simplest way to do this is to no exactly when to run, defense is the best offense cos if u aint dying u cant lose

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Drop some tripmine, stick an empath ontop of em in full view, and then hide, works on pretty much all villans but especially sweet on stalkers

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i can say this works as i was the empath

healing isn't essential if u can get ur team good at being able to look after themselves, i give my team buffs and rarely have to heal them as they can look after themselves

yea fly sucks in PVP, definately needs a buff

if he's able to stand in a group of heros, turn invis off and get away an AS then this clearly shows the state of PvP in the mighty USA.