Wintry

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  1. Oh, also... out of the 5 threads in this forum at the time of writing precisely 0 (yes, that is zero, none, nada) follow the required format as described in the OP.

    .... 1 is close though.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
    Recently, I've spent time talking to people who were new to the game, and even asking people, where can I find builds (I was incognito of course). Very few folks could point me to one place, the usual response I got was "On the forums...." and when I asked "Yeah, but which forum" the response was almost always "I don't know" or "You have to really dig through the AT and General forums".
    Ok, seriously... what server did you try this on?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
    I believe that if you give it a chance and follow the suggested format we can make this forum a place for folks to naturally gravitate to for builds, specifically. Plus, we can give better visibility to Mids updates here and sticky each update.
    Personally I think it'll get messy and confusing, but who am I - we'll see how it turns out.
  3. For a while we'd been stuck closing on 45 mins, which was with 2 corrs (screenie).
    But then I figured I could probably cut the time down by swapping my part (not the debuff) out for a Widow, so I did...


    Enlarge screenshot

    Have people on any server accomplished this before at all?
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    I doubt that's true. Few companies that operate in as many markets as NCSoft have a good handle on their compliance requirements. A fair amount of companies do their best and use the corporate version of "I'm sorry, I won't do it anymore," when they get caught doing something they shouldn't have.

    It works surprising well and is a heck of a lot cheaper than hiring lawyers in all those jurisdictions.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Casual_Player View Post
    I no longer practice law for a living, but I do try and keep up with things that interest me in the legal field. And the sale of virtual items is a field that is just now getting the law's attention.

    I can guarantee you that NCSoft hasn't reviewed all they need to know on this subject because the subject matter is changing.
    What do they need to know?
    You both assumed I meant I believe they have it all covered such that they can't lose in a court of law, but I didn't.
    I didn't say that, just as Samuel Tow didn't rule out in his statement they might still know it if they were legally or ethically obligated to - only that that would be the reason for it.

    Businesses that work with customers and provide a constant service for which they need as much customer retention as possible can work quite complex internally in this matter.
    If you've worked in the legal field it really depends on in what sort of position exactly you worked if you've ever seen this, but at the very basis it comes down to it not everything even makes it to a court of law in the first place because some cases are lost the moment they come to pass since the profit in that was already determined in a previous risk assessment.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TriAngel_EU View Post
    Same as with any "what vets want VS what looks good in advertisement" argument; As long as the the final result of the little formula that weighs dissatisfaction of existing customers and the probable rate of eventual cancelled subs caused by it against the tradeoff in the shape of new customers attracted and all sales attached to that yields a positive number indicating profit the course is decided.
    This basic rule applies to every decision made in a business that deals with customers engaged in some sort of service.
    It is, in fact, very similar to that.
    Cases can be lost and settlements and / or fines can be paid without spending any further money on a matter simply if the profit gained from being on the wrong path for long enough before more than covers those costs.

    A good example of this sort of strategy at work is the Netscape settlement in the Microsoft Antitrust Case.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
    If Paragon Studios institute a system for refunds, then it won't be because they were legally or ethically obligated to institute one, but rather because they decided it was a smart business move.
    Now that we did not need 14 pages for.
    It's all cash flow numbers.

    Same as with any "what vets want VS what looks good in advertisement" argument; As long as the the final result of the little formula that weighs dissatisfaction of existing customers and the probable rate of eventual cancelled subs caused by it against the tradeoff in the shape of new customers attracted and all sales attached to that yields a positive number indicating profit the course is decided.
    This basic rule applies to every decision made in a business that deals with customers engaged in some sort of service.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    You know I actually practice law for a living and I would never say that. I don't know what 50 states, Canada, Mexico, the EU, and however many more countries' laws state as to consumer protection. And neither do you.
    Believe me when I tell you Paragon Studios/NCsoft have reviewed all they needed to know on this subject.
    If that were an issue in this context we would not be where we are today.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    I believe there is something in the new EULA about back-charging/refunds.
    Quote:
    YOU ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT NCSOFT HAS NO OBLIGATION TO REFUND ANY PAYMENTS, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, RELATED TO AN ACCOUNT WHETHER OR NOT SUCH PAYMENTS WERE MADE OR AUTHORIZED BY YOU, FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO INTERRUPTION OR UNAVAILABILITY OF SERVICE (SEE ALSO SECTION 10). YOU ACKNOWLEDGE, AND FURTHER AGREE, THAT NCSOFT MAY, IN ITS SOLE AND ABSOLUTE DISCRETION, TERMINATE UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 3(c) ANY ACCOUNT RELATED TO ANY ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN A REFUND OF ANY PAYMENTS
    That.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    And then NCsoft will simply lock your account for your efforts. Trust me when I say they don't take very kindly to people charging back purchases like this. But if you don't believe me go ahead and knock yourself out with that.
    Issue is also it can be done with things not like this.
    I mean, the powerset is something that's easily identified on your account, they could in theory relock it.
    But with the same PP you can buy things you can sell again on the in-game market like recipes. When you sell that the product you bought with PP is gone and nobody is gonna make an effort to tranceback what you did with it and what they need to retrieve.
    For this reason all chargebacks are handled the same which is indeed banning/account locking/whatever you wanna call it.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    I think I will

    If I really really was upset, I would charge back the point purchase, I know credit cards will back the customer on this over the game company, I did it before to another company that did tick me off to that point.

    But it does create a bit of a mess.
    And would probably get you banned.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
    A LOT of people love the street justice set, so it was clearly a powerset which they felt was more of a premium set than time manipulation.
    I doubt that has anything to do with it.
    Who uses Time Manip most? Corrs and fenders (fenders at least when it gets fixed sometime in the distant future...)?

    Where will you find Street Justice the most? Scrappers....

    Disclaimer: Number are off, used only for illustrative purposes.
    All ranged ATs combined = 675,202 toons
    Scrappers = 3,156,646,344 toons

    Which group are you going to charge?
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague View Post
    And [The I Win Button], obviously.
    There's a shortcut to delete all your scrappers at once?
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Biowraith View Post
    You can, but you have to take a roundabout route to do it: get the power names from wherever (Paragonwiki for example), then use in-game chat to bring up power info, e.g. by chatting [Heavy Blow] then clicking on the link it creates.

    Far from ideal in terms of convenience and likelihood of people knowing about it, but it does work.
    Getting links from someone else who also had to buy it to get those doesn't count. There has to be a source at one point.
    True, for an individual it can provide a solution to get the stats from a third party, but it's not something a business should rely on to make its approach fair.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
    15 targets obviously.
    Most cap at 10... and so does Foot Stomp, for that matter.
    Whirling Mace/Axe/Sword, Fire Sword Circle, Thunder Strike, Spin...
  13. Wintry

    What do I do?!?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpikyShane View Post
    There's a spider above our bed, and it's really clumsy looking. It keeps falling from the ceiling, but luckily it hasn't fallen on my bed (manages to hang from a web). I want to get rid of it by killing it or capturing it and throwing it outside, but my girlfriend is in bed asleep and she doesn't like spiders. Do I wake her up and tell her to get out of the room, or do I leave the spider and hope it doesn't fall on our bed and wake her itself?
    What do you do?
    Anything but sit down at your PC and post about it on some forum - it's not very superheroic.
  14. Wintry

    Downtime

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gemini_2099 View Post
    100 PP sounds reasonable as compensation.
    Ah, at first glance at this post I thought you were gonna say "100 PP per hour account-bound non-tradeable uptime in Paragon Market soon.".
  15. Wintry

    Downtime

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof_Radburn View Post
    When are the servers coming back up ????
    Most likely before this time tomorrow.
  16. Wintry

    Downtime

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
    This post intentionally left blank.





    Well, except for the notice about it being left blank.




    Oh, and that last line.



    And that one.



    And.... ok, this is getting silly.
    This is a demonstrative post with the intention of allowing people to learn from it how to make a post like this post that is intentionally left blank apart from this very sentence and the preceeding quote.
  17. Wintry

    Downtime

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Heyman View Post
    Yet by annoucing it you are also taking part and getting +1postcount.

    Irony ftw
    Duh? That was kinda the point.
    I could've told the OP this thread wasn't gonna bring the servers up any sooner, but that would've been cliché and not much more meaningful than most other replies.
    In this type of thread it's hard to correct the lack of meaning, but you can avoid the cliché.

    I'm disappointed you didn't see through it enough to see it wasn't irony...
    And even more so you made me ruin it by now making it +2...

    *sad panda face*
  18. Wintry

    Downtime

    +1 postcount thread go.
  19. Wintry

    Speed runs

    Kahn time needs updating, Phil.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Swifty_NA View Post
    Errrmmm..

    Did state at the start end would be an issue and wanted more recharge but wasn't sure how to get it without making the defence suffer. The point of this thread was to get feedback and suggestions as I have not attempted build making before. If you have a suggestion on how to do this please share.

    As an aside. Thanks to the help for the other so far. Big help. Have learnt alot so far in this experiment in numbers
    Fixing the end will be quite hard with the approach you and seemingly most people with you that I've seen so far took on getting def. It will be much easier to get all the numbers right if you settle for softcapped S/L/E def purely from powerpicks.
    At least get all the accolade autos if you go on with this.

    One thing I would at least change in that last build you posted is swapping the slots in RoF and Fireball. Fireball recharges fast anyway. RoF will be a hell of a lot better that way.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Neogumbercules View Post
    As far as I know, that defense buff persists even after power boost wears off since Farsight is a click power. You just gotta make sure you use PB first. Isn't that what FF'ers have been doing for years? Then Farsight is easily perma-able out of the box and the recharge on PB is half that of Farsight, so it'll be ready every time farsight is up.
    With Hasten, Chrono and Farsight you already have 3 powers you'd love to have on auto.
    With this bit of awesomeness you're making it 4 and adding an extra complexity in casting it too.
    You rather than me.
  22. RoF is not perma.
    What's wrong with you?

    And endurance is gonna be a problem.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quantumizer View Post
    I received a blind invite. Ok, I thought... why not? I accepted ... doom follows
    Never accept blinds...

    If the fenders weren't doing anything I suppose you could've waited until they were ready as it's important if you're facing mobs that are so tough on your team to ensure everyone's ready before anyone dives in. If they were doing something it obviously wasn't enough and that many red and purple conning mobs at that level may've been over your head.

    I'd say you could also have said something before hitting quit, like... too low for this or I don't think this is gonna work, I'll pass. Cya.

    But more importantly I think there's nearly always something to say for either side of a scenario and you shouldn't worry about it too much.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by _Force_ View Post
    The wife and I managed to snag these.





    Axel
    Devotion
    Aspen
    Magical
    Force
    Rebellion
    Attack
    Invasion
    Violent
    Ring
    Conquer
    Treason
    Offense
    Exiled
    Rough
    Hell on Heels
    Insane
    Fringe
    Impulsive
    Pentacle
    Reveal
    Passover
    Serene
    Subdue
    Tranquil
    Fierce
    Furious
    Frantic
    Vicious
    Acute
    Raging
    Cruel
    Ruthless
    Roar
    Injury
    Deathly
    Menace
    Epidemic
    Awe
    Horrify
    Abuse
    Enrage
    Explosive
    Violence
    Ire
    Risky
    Mystical
    Provoke
    Hellish
    Rime
    Hoar
    Obliterate
    Profit
    Dainty
    Bizarre
    Bias
    Cult
    Accension
    Harmful
    Grave
    Intrigue
    Tryst
    Semper Fidelis
    Insurrection
    Might
    Disaster
    Eartly
    Evasive
    Mystify
    Volatile
    Cage
    Covert
    Somber
    Dubious
    Explicit
    Shadowy
    Beguile
    Bogus
    Contrary
    Whimsical
    Spectral
    Visionary
    Hallucinate
    Species
    Authentic
    Dreamy
    Phantasmagorical
    Phantasmagoric
    Practical
    Pensive
    Glee
    Hellementary
    Bray
    Debauchery
    .......... you reserved the dictionary?