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Quote:Fine. Have a guy wear a *formal* tank top then.
I don't think we'd be allowed to rock up in a t-shirt/tank top and jeans/leggings to a formal event either - the usual rules are suits for the boys, dresses for the girls - so the problem is more that suits are less versatile than dresses - like there's not the huge range of styles and cuts that we can have with dresses - we've got hemlines, sleeves, necklines, backs and sides to play with, but suits are more restricted, and the changes in styles for them have to be smaller and less obvious.
So what we wear to formal events hasn't really changed from Victorian times - men in suits, women in dresses - it's just that our traditonal formal clothing happens to have way more scope for changes than boys' one has
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Quote:Zombie Man, you write some excellent guides, but you're remarkably wrong in this situation.Wow. Totally fail on the use of English. Entitling something "Reverse... X" is not saying that *everything* is *exactly reversed* like some absurd Bizarro universe. It's a figure of speech.Quote:Well, even if we allow the outlandish premise that women are expected to wear next to nothing now, which I do not feel is remotely the case, especially with "**** shaming" as prevalent as it is, the rest of his argument doesn't follow at all.
Zombie Man has defined "Reverse Victorian Sexism" as women must wear next to nothing, men must be dressed from head to toe. He contrasts this to Victorian sensibilities in which women must be covered from head to toe.
This implies that in Victorian Sensibilities, men should be dressed in next to nothing, which is clearly not the case.
In Victorian Sensibilities, men are also supposed to be dressed from head to toe, as little skin exposed as possible.
Therefore, Reverse Victorian would imply that now men and women should both be dressed in next to nothing. This is clearly not the case either.
Since no argument for the term "Reverse Victorian Sexism" is applicable, Zombie Man must be entirely wrong."Zombie Man, your premise that these are 'Reverse' times is absurd. In Victorian times people had their skin on the outside but their internal organs on the inside. But since I see no one with their skin on the inside and their internal organs on the outside, you have absolutely no point!!"
And if you don't think women (at least the young pretty ones) aren't expected to wear next to nothing at a Red Carpet event, then you have not seen one single fashion show on the subject.
Fine, skip the title "Reverse Victorian". It's still double standards based on sex. Which is called... sexism. If it's not, I challenge you to wear a tank top at a formal event. -
Precious metals is in a huge bubble right now thanks to nutwing apocalypse preachers (and I'm not talking about the May 21 guy). They think that if the world economy collapses, you can use precious metals as tender. Like if you bring in an ounce of gold to the WalMart, they'll not only accept it but they'll make change with it... with you know... those billion pieces of precious metal coinage that doesn't exist for such exchanges to actually take place.
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Futurama.
Parks and Recreation: Bear with the first half of the first season as it tries to find its groove. But once it does, it really takes off.
Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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Yeah, it's called a shower towel.
Which brings me to my next rant on societal sexism: The Reverse Victorian.
In the Victorian age, modesty for females meant being covered from neck to wrist to ankle, even at the beach. Now, it's expected, AT FORMAL EVENTS, for women to wear as little as possible: sleeveless, shoulderless, strapless, backless, plunging, and mini. You've come a long way, baby: From being covered up because you were some man's property to almost showing it all so you can be every man's property.
And at these Black Tie affairs and Red Carpet Events, how are the men dressed? Covered from neck to wrist to ankle.
Yay. Progress.
Now, let's bring this Reverse Victorian sexism back to City of Heroes: Go to Ouroboros on the Beta server and check out the two new NPCs, Astral Christy and Empyrean Michael. Notice something?
[Oh, forgot another sexist thing the CoH Devs did until called on it: The original Pocket D dancers were all female.] -
Quote:And that last statement of yours is sexism, too, even though you obviously abhor it. It's societal sexism. With the 'Woman's Lib' movement, it was more easily accepted for women to adapt the clothing of the gender that had more power because they wanted to be considered equals. There was at the time a lot of pushback to that. I remember in the 60s and 70s the scandal to the previous generations to see women wear pants in public and professional settings!And my faith in the developers of this game plummets just a little more. But what reasons could they honestly give for not giving women certain options? I mean it's impossible these days for a woman to be considered a crossdresser
Naturally, the men weren't clamoring to be wearing the clothing associated with 'the weaker sex.' It was then stigmatized as being gay (not that there should be anything considered wrong with that) or feminine (not that there should be anything considered wrong with that). I remember the older generations bothered to no end when men started to wear hair length past their ears ("those sissies!").
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Then you wouldn't mind if the Devs removed the Derby from hats for female models since that's a man's hat? <looks at Jophiel's avatars>
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Quote:I was privy to some developers thought processes both publicly and privately as to why the gender-specific choices were made. Not once was it because of developer resource limitations. The reasons given ranged from 'it's gay' to 'men don't wear that' to 'fear of prostitution harems' to 'cross-gender dressing is beyond the pale of the T rating' (but poisoning children into blindness is within bounds).I don't know what to call it, I am not party to the developer's thought processes in their decisions where to assign development resources.
I'm serious. They said that. Not all of them giving all those reasons. But by different devs at different times in regard to different pieces. -
90% Satisfied!
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Quote:Not being colored the way you want it is not a *fix* of a bug.
Also, it's a list of what they done so far. Did you think they recolored the backpack and Zwillinger inadvertently left that off the list? Otherwise, you're just asking for something which was already asked for and the question should have been, "Some of us have asked for the backpack to be recolored; is that on their list of things to do?" -
Quote:And the basis for making those Lack of Gender Parity choices is... what exactly? Genderism?Let me just say that what is being pointed out is not sexism in costume choices, but rather Lack of Gender Parity or perhaps Gender Inequity in Costume Choices.
Call it what it is.
I'm sure the Devs wouldn't want anyone in the world at large to wear barbed wire or to go around with an exposed brain, either. That's not the point.Quote:And it's not necessarily because the devs themselves have any strong opinions on who should wear what in the world at large, either. Remember that Huge isn't a gender, but it is a separate mesh type that doesn't always get everything the Male mesh type does either. Developing costume parts for multiple meshes is a nontrivial amount of extra work. If the developers think the demand for, say, skirts for Huge meshes is not going to be that great, they may just choose to spend that development time on something else.
They make the overwhelming majority of player costume pieces fit the mesh for three models. But they then they purposely exclude one or two meshes out of the three for about 1% of the pieces. Why? Is leaving out one or two meshes for such a tiny majority of pieces really going to save them that much time?
If they shouldn't make pieces because of how rarely used it would be, then there's a lot of stuff in the costume creator which should not have been, e.g., chains wrapped around the eyes. -
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Quote:We already have this:Now I wanna see a Huge character running around in fishnets and a mesh top.

And they're afraid of cross-dressing? Not to mention all the gender bending that can be done with other costume pieces (and not to mention switching gender models on the fly now). That horse has left the barn.
Which is why it astounds me when they keep up at these sexist choices in which model gets which clothing.
At one time, men couldn't get kilts because they weren't considered 'male clothing'!!!??!! Yes, that's true.Quote:The most sexist costume choice Ive seen in game is that women cant wear kilts!
We had to pitch a fit to get the cottontail ported to male models. Someone thought it was too feminine!!!??!! Yes, that's true, too. We had to remind them of: Harvey, Bugs, Peter, Easter, etc...
We couldn't have female MM pets because it would be unseemly for a male toon to have a stable of female 'pets' and the fear of pimp characters!! That's also true, and unfortunately, that's also a valid fear, but you don't restrict options because of a few jerks that would abuse them. That's what /petition is for. And yet today, we can now have a stable of Widow and Carnie girl pets at our disposal.
You know, I thought these fights would be over because it seemed they were letting go of old sexist stances and because there is now a female lead designer.
Guess not.
Paragon Studios still puts out a game with sexist stances. Always has and it seems always will. -
Quote:Please let that player know the next time they are online that no Community Rep nor Developer would ever do that outside the confines of scheduled events. That was just a random Rikti Raid that happens when someone complete the Lady Grey TF. NCSoft employees are not allowed to use their god-mode powers to affect gameplay on Live Servers and bombs causing damage would be interfering with gameplay.Zwillinger I didn't actually see you so I don't know how bad it was, but I was trying to speak up on behalf of others cos I saw someone complaining before, can't find the right one in search now grr.
Found this tho:
05-30-2011 01:45:38 Two Across: S'no War Walker. It's Zwillinger
05-30-2011 01:59:38 Rebel FireStorm: Yes, but still slightly irritating when he turns into a Rikti ship and drops bombs all over the place while we're trying to RP.
05-30-2011 02:01:56 Steel Flechette: I hate to say it, but I agree with rebel. Hes not interacting, hes showing off.
05-30-2011 02:02:06 Steel Flechette: I wish he'd just go away.
05-30-2011 02:02:17 Rebel FireStorm: ^
The recent appearances of Community Reps as seagulls or giant spiders is not interfering with gameplay mechanics... no one dies and gets debt from it (in fact, debt is turned off in zones with these special events).
Their showing up is actually a form of RP, which the player above should appreciate if they're a RPer. Of course, it a Community Rep as a Giant Spider drags a hundred other players past your RP session... well... then they should RP it! If they can't, then they're not very good RPers. -
Nice guide. Some notes:
Quote:- DO. NOT. ATTACK. ANTI-MATTER. UNTIL. THE. FINAL. PHASE. PERIOD.
- DO. NOT. ATTACK. ANTI-MATTER. UNTIL. THE. FINAL. PHASE. PERIOD.
- Attacking Anti-Matter and damaging him only increases the amount of damage of the pulses.
- Be careful of AoE damage when Anti-Matter is around as well as pet agro and damage procs in auras and debuffs.
- If you have AoE Heals or Regen buffs... use them. The damage pulse does more damage than most characters ordinarily regenerate. The Destiny Incarnate Rebirth powers are very helpful to have for this trial.
Why would you do that since you can just click the first player on the first team with the yellow star?Quote:- It helps to move the League leader into the Focus Tab so that during the beginning of each Phase you can target them and rally together in one spot.
I like to add an audial cue:Quote:
- /macro DIS b HELP! I'M BEING DISINTEGRATED, Y'ALL!
- /macro DIS b HELP! I'M BEING DISINTEGRATED, Y'ALL!$$em whistle
Add a mention that the warworks guarding the terminals need to be defeated *or moved away* from the terminal. Thus pulling or knocking them away will work as much as defeating them.Quote:Phase Two: First Reactor
Called Goliaths.Quote:Phase Three: Second Reactor
In this phase we will have to defeat the EB Warwalkers to get the Power Cells. Each EB Warwalker...
Add:Quote:Phase Four: Third Reactor
This is the final reactor that needs to be shut down. In order to access the terminals, all the Warworks guarding them need to be defeated or moved away; and Anti-Matter needs to be present in order to use the 3 Power Cells.
- There are three doors to each bunker, so, make life easier by destroying the big garage door to get in and out of the bunkers rather than the tiny door which gets easily blocked.
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It used to be we were suppose to PM BAB about FX that was or wasn't being suppressed correctly. I don't know who to PM about this now except maybe Zwillinger and he'll send it to the right Powers Team person.
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I'm not having trouble with my MM on Lambda or Keyes. Then again, I don't mind constant resummoning as needed.
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Quote:I'm gonna make my Rainbow Aura toon where each costume piece is a different color and make sure I'm always on your TFs!Im a colour freak, need to match everything

I wish the armored boots for female came with a kind of high heeled plataform.
Those boots are sexy as hell for females with the thight armor part.
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Quote:And together, they fight crime!Bought. One goth chick, one pirate-wannabe girl, one time-traveling gunslinger, one airship pirate, and one steampunk professor re-costumed.
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I know that it was purchasable as of at least 9 AM EDT on this Wednesday, June 1.
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Prices are Beta placeholders. Having drama attacks over them at this time is unnecessary. Please read the Dev digest, folks.

