Angry_Citizen
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What I find most amusing about this entire affair is that suddenly everyone is an expert in finances, business, and microeconomics.
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Quote:Why? Exposure to the game doesn't necessarily boost the chances that NCSoft will stop being penises. These efforts.. they're cutesy, but I don't see how they help.
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Quote:Meanwhile, the dev team atrophies and goes to find other work, and the AMA will eliminate any suspense and surprise from future content that may be developed if/when the game is saved.Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
That's a good thing.
It means they are clearly aware of the community's response but are taking their time to make a careful, measured response.
It seems likely the decision to sunset CoH was a knee-jerk reaction. A second similar reaction to the fans could really blow up in their face.
Add to that that if they are also in talks with anyone about the game's future, then they won't want to speak publicly.
In other words, no news is good news.
With all the people pouring their hearts out about personal stories, it's gonna be miiiighty awkward if the game is saved. -
Quote:How many employees were working on the game's development? Fifty? Multiply fifty times fifty thousand (rough annual salary estimate), and you've pretty much erased all that money.
As of 11:12 PM PST, the SaveOurCityOfHeroes petition was at 15,895 signatures. If each of them paid 15 bucks a month, that would be 2,861,100 bucks a year.
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Quote:This is why I always disliked the formulaic "brainstorm --> THINK --> plan" form taught in elementary school. It encourages people to put the most ludicrous ideas down with the excuse of "brainstorming". Think first. Ideas come naturally from that. It'd take NCSoft's lawyers about five seconds to win the case by simply saying "You signed it. Don't like it? Tough."
All I'm doing is brainstorming. -
I'll probably just not log on that day. Too bittersweet.
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Quote:This isn't good.
Lord Nemesis - "... this didn't turn out like I'd planned at all..."
Lord Nemesis: "Told you I'd win in the end." -
Quote:You get half a Purple Heart then ^_^ Maybe a Purple Spleen or possibly a Purple Buttock.Originally Posted by .Viridian.
One at Sega, a little over a year at Leapfrog, and just under two at Paragon.
Thanks for making sure our game was the best it could be. QA isn't a very flashy job, but it's necessary gruntwork and very respectable. I'm glad you got your chance to shine in the position you wanted. What content did you end up helping to create? -
Quote:I called it, eh? Didn't I call it???? *angry homeless man vindication*Originally Posted by Leo_G
Not sure if that balances anything. I still think Stalkers are broken too...just in the way that they've been made into Scrappers rather than improving their ability to be Stalkers.
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Quote:I.. agree with Leo_G O_oOriginally Posted by Leo_G
TonyV, I have to agree with the majority: don't try and make a corporation look like the good guys here. They're not.
But then I'm probably on the other side of the fence here too. Why boycott NCsoft? Because they made a business decision that directly affected you? Meh. Happens every day. Happens every second. A corporate decision will affect someone somewhere in a negative way...Let's boycott Cryptic because they were in direct competition with CoH...or Activision because WoW sucks up all the market for MMOs.
Corporations are collectively cut-throat, at least the largely successful ones. That's just the nature of business. You can go through the history of pretty much any big business and there's going to be a dark side. Business is corporations is money is greed. It's inescapable.
The way I see it, if you yourself don't think of your money as an investment in a product, you're shortselling yourself. Support the product that you think deserves money rather than believing you're lining the pockets of some evil CEO. Because if you don't, you'll never get the product you deserve for the price you're willing to pay.
Dunno about you, but I'm buying what games I find fun and innovative because I'm supporting the artists, writers, designers, programmers, animators, musicians, etc who make the game in hopes the future will be just as fun and innovative. Boycotts only stifle advancement and blinds oneself with their own emotions. Similarly, if Sony supported the continuation of CoH, those boycotting Sony simply expresses the sentiment that 'CoH is still not worth my soul'.
Well dignity and money are two seperate things in this world. Either you want the product that you want or you should be dumping it all into charities for people that don't have it.
/cue hyperbole of NCsoft killing 50 puppies per min to run Aion or something.
Yeah, well I'm sure Walmart also runs on the eternal souls of dead orphans...I doubt those orphans need their souls anyway now that they're dead...
No need to boycott, because boycotting is a political goal. Boycott them if they go Chik Fil-A on us. But if you don't trust them to protect their product, that's just good sense as a player. No need to explicitly boycott them.
... to balance this tear in universal fabric: Stalkers are still broken. -
Quote:Judging from the rest of the thread, I'm not alone in my sheer disbelief regarding this feeble (and rather narcissistic) attempt to persuade CoH players not to be angry at NCSoft.Originally Posted by Feycat
Speak for yourself, not for the rest of us. "It's insulting to us."
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TonyV, you may be spearheading efforts to save CoH, but you aren't our spokesperson or our leader. Trying to defend NCSoft and make it out to be some noble corporation is ignorant both of the history and nature of corporations, but is also irreflective of the manner in which NCsoft chose to shut down our game. You claim NCSoft did this unwillingly - well yes, I'm sure they did. But it was not for any love of the game or loyalty to its players. NCSoft may have realized that the game wasn't turning much of a profit, and chose to invest money in an alternate project for which it had greater aspirations. Never forget that NCSoft is a corporation. It exists to make money. Your flowery, stupendously ridiculous speech to the contrary, there is no reason to suspect that NCSoft ever did anything for this game that wasn't specifically and solely designed to turn a profit. Unlike Paragon Studios, NCSoft chose to be an inhuman, soulless corporation without care or regard to the players of the game. Ample evidence exists for this in the manner in which they chose to shut us down without warning or stated reason.
In this scenario, NCSoft is like a supposedly loving husband telling his wife to pack her things and GTFO after some decades of marriage so he can have a skinny young blonde in his bed; and you are claiming the man only did it because he has special needs that must be met.
In short, please keep your nonsense to yourself. Trying to save CoH is one thing - I think it's a pretty hopeless battle, myself - but do shut up about what you clearly don't know or understand. It's insulting to us.
... Welp. Guess the Anger is back at last. -
Otherland? Guess I'll have to snag that series - it's been on my list for a while.
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Wow man, I'm really sorry
That's such an awful thing to happen, and the date on which it happened is eerie. RIP Mr. Campbell.
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Quote:I love you and will bear your children, despite this being anatomically impossible.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
Its a modified "Retreat, Hell" from the army. I think.
The whole quote was "Retreat? Hell, we just got here."
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Quote:... maybe.
The shut down of CoH, on the other hand is purely an immediate cost cutting measure. -
You dun got scooped.
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Quote:*checks date*
How are you able to search back that far?
Oh. That.. that explains that. haha
Actually my oldest post (that I actually wrote) was in tpull's Journal of a First-Time MMO Player thread, dated March of '05. Over seven years ago. Yowza.
Here be the thread, it's a good read: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...112810&page=20 -
He was an absurdly nice guy.
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Can I have your money too?
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Quote:Oh come on, no one got this?Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
Delete? Hell!
You people are fiends -_- -
Quote:Yeah, it is. Sorta. I mean, I always thought CoH had about 100k subscribers... so we've netted, say, 4% of the total in the petition.Originally Posted by Tormentoso
That's the problem with change.org and online petitions, they are so easy to dupe, that they carry less weight. It also doesn't help that the moment you sign one petition change.org throws at you like 5 'just one click here to sign this other one.'
They still carry some weight, though. The ratio just works differently.
I'm not sure about the math, but I'm sure someone somewhere has calculated how it works. Say 1000 internet signatures equals 400 paper ones, or something.
Regardless, 10k is impressive.
Sorry I'm the resident dickbag these days, but all this optimism hurts my soul. -
Mine is me talking about how I apply Fortitude with my emp. Not the best oldest post - I was expecting a rant of some sort.
My second oldest post is a rant of sorts against Castle regarding the stalker Placate bug
that makes me happy.
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Delete? Hell!
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How many of them were duplicate signings?