The Best Time of My Life
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Posted on: 2012-09-02 22:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I was wondering if the beta client would be the thing we should be playing demos into the future with.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Holy **** that actually works in beta.
Holy **** it works on older demorecords. You didn't think it would take me that long to figure out F2. |
Man, I24 (and I25 after) feels like we were about to discover the fountain of youth, with a tree growing on it that had a never-ending supply of fruit that tasted like whatever you were in a mood for. And then a crevasse opened in the earth and swallowed us all.
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Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
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Which led us into the lost world of more wonders and splendorous delights...|
Originally Posted by UberGuy
I was wondering if the beta client would be the thing we should be playing demos into the future with.
Man, I24 (and I25 after) feels like we were about to discover the fountain of youth, with a tree growing on it that had a never-ending supply of fruit that tasted like whatever you were in a mood for. And then a crevasse opened in the earth and swallowed us all... |
Right? Right?
(Agreed on the updates and plans... I am especially, and completely, surprised and amazed that demo recording was getting improvements... It's astonishing and fantastic and I think things are going to have to continue, through Dark Respite's will alone, lol.
Seriously, this game was constantly getting better and, as I've said numerous times now, has no place being ended right now. None. It's insanity.)
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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You have to be a little careful about playing very old demos with very new clients because sometimes the animation names change, and then the entities don't do anything. Or sometimes they join the Ice Capades:|
Originally Posted by UberGuy
I was wondering if the beta client would be the thing we should be playing demos into the future with.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTRMYw3TXk
That is being played back with the camera repositioned, by the way.
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| Man, I24 (and I25 after) feels like we were about to discover the fountain of youth, with a tree growing on it that had a never-ending supply of fruit that tasted like whatever you were in a mood for. And then a crevasse opened in the earth and swallowed us all... |
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Heh. Well, happily or sadly, depending on how you look at it, that's a problem I don't really have. I don't have very many old demo recordings. In addition to a HD loss of my gaming drive that ate some of my oldest stuff, I was never really into movie making, which of course demos rock for. I'm much more interested in it all now, of course, in case its the only CoH fix I can get.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
You have to be a little careful about playing very old demos with very new clients because sometimes the animation names change, and then the entities don't do anything. Or sometimes they join the Ice Capades:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTRMYw3TXk |
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WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
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Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
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Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
So, why is this feature interesting? Lots of reasons, but here's one in particular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m_HDWTJr9Q
So here I am chilling in an old school Hami raid, which I used to demorecord a lot. The old school raids where after you cleared the mitos you used to just stand around waiting. And waiting. And waiting.
I wonder what was going on while I was just standing around waiting...
Huh. Hey, is that the rally rock way back there?
Why yes it is.
Sorry for the jerky movement: I use inverted-y mouse control, but demorecord apparently doesn't.
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Wow. There were always people who loitered on the rock and other various out-of-the-way places on Justice during raids, but not that many. 
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That's hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Why yes it is. |
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I think this is a very early raid, and the leaders were taking a short break before setting up the hold phase. That's where the non-controllers used to wait on Triumph until Hami was held.|
Originally Posted by UberGuy
Wow. There were always people who loitered on the rock and other various out-of-the-way places on Justice during raids, but not that many.
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Its too bad we can't pause and resume playback.
We can't pause and resume playback, can we?
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Ah, that makes a ton of sense. I don't think Justice peeps retreated all the way to the gathering rock, but it's been a long time and I joined that scene moderately late in the scheme of things. I recall falling back to the edge of the bowl, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was just me doing my own thing, as I am oft want to do even now.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I think this is a very early raid, and the leaders were taking a short break before setting up the hold phase. That's where the non-controllers used to wait on Triumph until Hami was held.
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Its too bad we can't pause and resume playback. ... We can't pause and resume playback, can we? |
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
wait....detached camera view? Seriously?
Does it need to go into a macro or bind as well? Or is it in the options somewhere? Because that is very handy. Dammit why does the game have to end now....
Blue
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Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Playback a demorecord with the beta client. As far as I've tested, this only works on the beta client.|
Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
wait....detached camera view? Seriously?
Does it need to go into a macro or bind as well? Or is it in the options somewhere? Because that is very handy. Dammit why does the game have to end now.... |
Then hit F2. Try using wasd or moving the mouse. Then hit F2 again.
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We used to tell people on Triumph to wait outside the goo because the goo buffed Hamidon. Or rather, other people said that and I made no effort to correct that statement, which is and has always been false.|
Originally Posted by UberGuy
Ah, that makes a ton of sense. I don't think Justice peeps retreated all the way to the gathering rock, but it's been a long time and I joined that scene moderately late in the scheme of things. I recall falling back to the edge of the bowl, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was just me doing my own thing, as I am oft want to do even now.
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The real reason raid leaders said that was to prevent people getting bored and start shooting Hamidon before he was held. Can't shoot him if you're waiting way over there, and the myth of the buffing goo made it easier to leverage peer pressure to prevent people from rushing Hamidon rather than raid leaders having to admonish players from doing so.
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This my favorite part!|
Originally Posted by Black Pebble
TLDR: I love this job, I love this game, and I love you guys (except for those that I don't).[*]One conversation during the Going Rogue launch party was particularly memorable.
"Hi, I'm Hosun. I work in marketing. You probably hate me." - Me, as I shake ANONYMOUS PLAYER'S HAND. "Oh no, we don't hate you. We just hate that Black Pebble Guy." - ANONYMOUS PLAYER WHOSE NAME I ACTUALLY KNOW. He didn't get a costume code card. |
LOL!!!
Thanks for sharing.
Catreena
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We need to spread the word about this to base builders. They could use this to fly around inside demos of their bases, which is really damn cool.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Playback a demorecord with the beta client. As far as I've tested, this only works on the beta client.
Then hit F2. Try using wasd or moving the mouse. Then hit F2 again. |
Blue
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Nightfall: 50 DDD
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Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Excellent idea: I'm cross posting to the base builders forum now.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
We need to spread the word about this to base builders. They could use this to fly around inside demos of their bases, which is really damn cool.
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Oh man... the free camera is so friggin' awesome.
Is there a way to get the CAM coords when doing this? We could use it as a way to set the camera just-so and save it that way (or set it that way after the fact) if I can pull up the current CAM POS and PYR (hrm, probably is a way).
And another question, BP... You are wonderful and gracious for telling us this now, but... were you going to be so evil so as to not tell us about this amazing feature when it would have gone live?? 
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Hmmm for some reason I cannot get this to work...
Not sure what I am doing wrong, Arcanavilles instructions are simple enough. I push F2 and move but nothing happens
**Edit**
Nevermind, figured it out and damn that sucks that it came this late, really useful
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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And you're playing the demo back with the Beta client? (Sorry for the "Is your computer plugged in??" question, but I figured it was worth checking)|
Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
Hmmm for some reason I cannot get this to work...
Not sure what I am doing wrong, Arcanavilles instructions are simple enough. I push F2 and move but nothing happens |
EDIT: I see you got it working, hehe...
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
lol yes...the computer was on =P
No I think I hit it twice the first time and then nothing happened. In any case, these demo tools really really help when making a demo.
I am torn now, want to be on the live game but have a bajillion videos I wanna make on Beta IF/before the lights go out...
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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Note: I'm not sure if this is relevant to your statement, but live demorecords do playback on the beta client. In fact, the beta client plays back demorecords I made in 2004. The catch is, as I mentioned, when sequencers or animations changed sometimes the demorecord doesn't play back perfectly, but anything recorded recently on live, beta, or test clients should play mostly fine on the I24 client.|
Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
lol yes...the computer was on =P
No I think I hit it twice the first time and then nothing happened. In any case, these demo tools really really help when making a demo. I am torn now, want to be on the live game but have a bajillion videos I wanna make on Beta IF/before the lights go out... |
If you're torn between playing live content and playing beta content, that's one thing. But you can play live content and demorecord it, and still use the I24 client to play it back with freeflight. Just to make sure there's no confusion.
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50/50 on that one.|
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
And another question, BP... You are wonderful and gracious for telling us this now, but... were you going to be so evil so as to not tell us about this amazing feature when it would have gone live??
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To answer my own question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bzekKQobB0|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
We can't pause and resume playback, can we?
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And its been there for a while apparently, not just in I24.
Black Pebble, while you were asking a programmer to sneak in an unlocked camera, did you happen to also ask them to turn sound back on in demo playback, or was that fixed and I'm just doing something wrong?
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A lot of hidden demorecord functionality was rediscovered around I24, including detached camera control (which now worked outside of demorecord). Audio was not one of them. Mostly because it never occurred to me to ask.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
To answer my own question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bzekKQobB0
And its been there for a while apparently, not just in I24. Black Pebble, while you were asking a programmer to sneak in an unlocked camera, did you happen to also ask them to turn sound back on in demo playback, or was that fixed and I'm just doing something wrong? |
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I'm really missing audio. I'm actually beginning to wonder if it can be hacked back in.
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Originally Posted by Black Pebble
A lot of hidden demorecord functionality was rediscovered around I24, including detached camera control (which now worked outside of demorecord). Audio was not one of them. Mostly because it never occurred to me to ask.
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