Alpha slotting for Ninja/Poison MM


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Hi all

I'm having problem deciding what to slot my Ninja/Poison in alpha!

The toon is fully slotted, and is performing quite awesome at the moment. The main issue is the end hog. I have currently slotted the MM with cardiac T1, and it is performing a lot better (good enough) endurance wise. My problem is though, that the T4 secondary effects (range and resist buffs) is not as interesting for me as the T4 secondary/tertiary effects in Muscular and agility. But is the 33%/45% end mod effects in Muscular and agility enough to replace the endurance reduction that cardiac gives?

I have tried to look at the data in mids, but cannot make heads and tails of it.

I have included the build for reference.

In advance
Thanks
Team Tios

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Generally, teh end mod from Agi/Musc will NOT be as good for fixing end issues as say..cardiac or vigor. The amount of recovery gained will be a very small amount..compared to having 20% end red in EVERY power you have. Obviously some different cases are a wp with qr and stam..which it would do more on.

I went musc radial on my necro posion MM. But he has been server banished..so it doesnt matter much. lol.

Was going to suggest Vigor..but ninjas have nothing to benefit from the heal right? Can the be slotted for def at all? Maybe agility would be better.


 

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Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
Was going to suggest Vigor..but ninjas have nothing to benefit from the heal right? Can the be slotted for def at all? Maybe agility would be better.
True ninjas wont benefit from heal, but my alkaloid will, and of course all my debuff powers will benefit from accuracy.
I didnt think that pets benefitted from any alpha slotting?.
If they do, will my ninjas benefit from the defense buff/ recharge from cardiac?
And do the pet aoe aura procs (edict of the master and command of the mastermind) benefit from the defense buff in cardiac or is it just powers that are cast that does?


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Originally Posted by Sulfur_Tios_EU View Post
I didnt think that pets benefitted from any alpha slotting?
Actually, they do. It's Set Bonuses they don't get.

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Originally Posted by Sulfur_Tios_EU View Post
If they do, will my ninjas benefit from the defense buff/ recharge from cardiac?
If you could slot Ninjas for Defense Buff, then you'd be able to leverage your Alpha Slot to enhance their entirely pitiful and pathetic Defenses. But as you can see, Genin, Jounin and Oni do not accept Defense Enhancements ... and therefore gain no benefit from Defense Buffing courtesy of the Alpha Slot. Mumble mumble fink grumble ...

The only Recharge benefit that Mastermind Pets get is that their summoning powers recharge faster. Pets themselves "ignore" all Recharge buffing (and debuffing?) because it messes with their already way too fragile AI.

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Originally Posted by Sulfur_Tios_EU View Post
And do the pet aoe aura procs (edict of the master and command of the mastermind) benefit from the defense buff in cardiac or is it just powers that are cast that does?
Alpha Slot will have NO EFFECT on these Aura Enhancements.


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Pretty sure they get ALpha benefits..I think. I know some incarnate powers are weird, with some of a type working..and others not.
You are right about teh rech being useless though

Perhaps someone can confirm if alphas do work..cause I KNOW the icon shows up (and interface 75% fire dot works).


 

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My experience mirrors Redlynne's.


The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by Redlynne View Post

If you could slot Ninjas for Defense Buff, then you'd be able to leverage your Alpha Slot to enhance their entirely pitiful and pathetic Defenses. But as you can see, Genin, Jounin and Oni do not accept Defense Enhancements ... and therefore gain no benefit from Defense Buffing courtesy of the Alpha Slot. Mumble mumble fink grumble ...
Hmm, so they wont benefit for any resist damage as well then. As I'm almost always is in close ranged/melee range it seems the range buff is useless as well. Seems my bet bet would be vigor T4 core my best "end" path.

...mumble grumble.

Thanks for the help though


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Originally Posted by Sulfur_Tios_EU View Post
As I'm almost always is in close ranged/melee range it seems the range buff is useless as well.
Range buff would be useful for Mercenaries or Robots (mainly ranged powers), situation depending ... not so much for Ninjas.


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Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
Pretty sure they get ALpha benefits..I think. I know some incarnate powers are weird, with some of a type working..and others not.
You are right about teh rech being useless though

Perhaps someone can confirm if alphas do work..cause I KNOW the icon shows up (and interface 75% fire dot works).
So this would mean that each of my pets would have a 75% chance of fire dot and 25% for a 2.5% resistance debuff if I slotted interface radial flawless? Could anyone confirm this?

Thanks
Team Tios


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Theyshould..as I said..they get teh 75% dot..but I remember hearing some werent working.


 

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The Alpha and Interface successfully effect pets in all cases. It is Hybrid that can be a little weird.