Warshade/Peacebringer Concept Questions.

I've poured over quite a few websites, and they all seem to say the same thing regarding Kheldians in that Kheldians murge with living hosts, only if the host is willing; while Nictus do this by force making them the evil of their kind.

Now I understand that this description has been kept as brief and vague as it can be so not to hinder someone's ability to make and write a character however they choose. But the problem I am having is what exactly can a Kheldian meld with?

A Kheld is an energy based species, that basically uses the human form as a way to house their energies; The Kheld gets a place to live, while the human gains abilities, knowledge, longer life, and the ability to say 'we' when referring to themselves. With the Kheld being an energy creature in mind, my question is whether our not it is possible to meld with a body that either has no mind, or is not alive?

Which boils down to, can the undead become Warshades and Peacebringers?

The next question following a similar mind set of energy creature. Is that when a Kheld joins with a human, that person's body is overall changed and reprogrammed into a differen't being all together. Changing body and mind alike during the joining. The human brain is a complex machine, but overall is a biocomputer in general, exchanging information via small bit of electricity and energy being transfered amongst the lobes. Would it then be within the realm of possibility for a Kheldian to use their energy form, and reprogramming nature to join with a robotic being/robot form?

Which boils down to, can robots become Warshades and Peacebringers?



Thank-you for your assistance.

-Krims

I have an SG-mate who basically said they joined with someone in a vegetative state to stay alive - the body was there and forgotten and it was an emergency sort of thing.

There's nothing lore wise I can think of off the top of my head that would prevent that from happening. It would probably be frowned on (being somewhat close to the nictus way of doing things) but not preventative.

As far as a dead body... I can only go with how it "feels" and say that generally wouldn't work. But I have nothing to base it on.

Of course, you mention "undead," which in general is something completely different than just a corpse, as most have animation (really, my zombies keep turning out looking like Huey, Dewie and Louie) and/or some sort of drive - vampires, for instance, would probably be seen as sentient, while most zombies (depending on the sort) would probably be much like merging with an animal.



As far as robots... again, nothing saying no, no real canon (as opposed to player) examples of "yes," other than the Battalion using captured Khelds as fuel, so there'd have to be some way of drawing energy from them into a machine - so energy "controlled" isn't, IMHO, that big of a stretch. I don't think they'd get the life-extension benefits, though, or be able to transform into a robot later - it'd be (to use a very rough and fairly poor example) the difference between eating a hamburger (becomes fuel for you, or becomes part of you) and getting into a car (stays separate even though you're operating it.)

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The lore suggests that Kheldians are capable of bonding with almost any living thing. They do this through a natural, non-magical process, so I'd say that they should be able to bond with anything that is truely alive.

With that in mind:
Resident Evil zombie: Yes, the person is still alive, just changed by the virus.
Traditional necromantic zombie: No, the body is dead, and animated by magic.
Frankenstein's Monster: Yes. While previously dead, the monster has been brought back to life - it has normally functioning brain, body and organs.
Vahzilok Zombie: Maybe. The body is mechanically reanimated, but it seems like they respond as living things. Slow and dimwitted, but alive and partially aware. Considering Dr V's goal is to conquer death, I think his intention is Frankenstein-like reanimation. Probably, but I'm uncertain.

For robots, that's a tough call. There is no lore precedent (that I'm aware of) that states that Kheldian energy is or isn't compatible with technology. The Battallion's use of the Kheldians as fuel doesn't convince me, because we know nothing useful about the Battallion yet. Their ships may be some form of biotech that forces the Khelds to merge with them and then drains them. It might be techno-wizardry or even straight up magic that uses life forces for fuel, and the Khelds were picked for their availability, not their energy form. There's no way to know at this point.
That said, I'm inclined to say that a Kheld should be capable of possessing and animating a mechanical body, but I don't think it could fully bond with an artificial intelligence (ie, a computer program that merely simulates life/intelligence). If it were a full blown computer intelligence, and not just a simulation of one, then I'd say it would probably work. Everything in this paragraph is pure speculation, with NO lore backing it up though.

in short I went with concept with my warshade that it's an alien race that comes from a planet where khelds/nictus bonded to the population long time ago and is the norm there.

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Bill (and others), you know the lore better than me but what about this thought:
Nictus cysts are crystals and we use crystals in a fair bit of our technology (I have a watch that uses a really crappy ruby, and quartz is still used very commonly as a time regulator), and crystal-based sci-fi tech is very common. We know that the nictus at least can survive inside a cyst crystal. In theory at least, it would seem reasonable to me that the right crystal-based technology would allow a kheldian to not only merge but get the same lifespan benefits as when they merge with humans or other living beings.

I'd assume it would need more than a liquid crystal display, but having crystals for data storage or processing, might be all it takes.

At a minimum, something like this is close enough for me that I'd hand wave away the rest.

For the most part, I have decided that joining with a normal robotic form isn't much possible, or at least it isn't too effective. Some one on the help channel brought up the simple fact that Kheld's use their host to lengthin their lives by feeding off the host in a way in exchange for powers etc. So a Kheld in a robot shell would only have about 5 years of exsistance being that all of it's energy it has to toy with is it's own. Making cyborgs good being that they are just altered humanoids, but not a plain robot they found on the side of a road.

But I have a new concept in mind which I think it could work, because I am bound and determined to get my Kheld a mech suit.

So bear with me as I go through my concept, and feel free to shoot it down, or add your own 2-cents.

Using the idea that through Warshades (Who were once Nictus, therefore have knowledge of their technologies), along with Peacebringers who probably have knowledge on the technologies as well in order to combat it.

I want to make a peacebringer who through a few too many traumatic losses of it's hosts has more or less cracked, going a bit radical (Meaning I'm crazy, and would more than likely have to be a vigilante). I decided that I didn't want/need another host to die on my watch, so I gathered together a few of paragon's best and brightest scientist and inventor to backwards engineer a few of the Nictus' tech to the dismay of most peacebringers.

In order to power spaceships/robots, the Nictus would have to have some way to keep the Khelds A. In some sort of stasis in order to keep them from going Dwarf and simply ripping their way out, and B. Some sort of energy field to keep them from turning into straight energy and leaking themselves out. Using this technology, I would have the scientist design and build a suit that has similar energy fields on the inside to keep me from simply falling out of the suit, while having all of the robotic limbs and legs set up to detect fluctuations of my own energy and react and move accordingly (Think Johann in Hellboy II). With a few well placed vents so I could seep out a bit on my own accord in order to take the Nova and Dwarf form.

But the energy/life span problem arrises the same as if a Kheld were to try to join with a robot. So for this, I figured (Which would piss of Peacebringers even more) on backwards engineering the Nictus device that was used to suck the life from Kheldians from over a few light years away. Turning it into a type of battery pack of sorts in order to power myself and keep a lengthy life time. But the pack would be narrowed down, so instead of remotely sucking life away from anything/everything, it would be powered by those who would willingly give some of their life to me via them having some sort of device on them that the pack picks up on. So in essence, I would be a full powered Peacebringer without technically joining with a host.

And that's my idea..