Debating on Dark or Fiery Melee, w/ Fiery Aura
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Cyberium_neo,
Posted on: 2012-07-05 24:08 in Brutes
As I understand it, Fiery Embrace was changed ages ago to affect all melee types equally, but the text never got completely updated. I could be wrong. Honestly, for it's uptime I was never that impressed with it, and I say that as someone who loves /fire.
Correct. Fiery Embrace adds a fire component to all your attacks. And this component is based off of the enhanced value of the attack, so it's quite a boost to your damage.
You should be pretty happy with the mix of exotic damage from a DM/FA brute. 
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
I have both since I have /fire farmers on different servers.
I prefer the DM over FM because its better against single targets and the -to hit is quite handy.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
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Herostats lists Fiery Embrace as my 4th greatest source of dmg. This is for a low recharge fire/fire tank, a medium recharge ss/fire brute, and a medium recharge fire/fire scrap. It's about 50% of the damage dealt by my dmg aura over a x8 with bosses mish; a little under that compared to my melee set's aoe's. (edit to add: medium recharge for me is around 50% global +hasten; i'd think that as recharge goes up its contribution would become mildly more significant.)
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Originally Posted by LowbrowDeluxe
Honestly, for it's uptime I was never that impressed with it, and I say that as someone who loves /fire.
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But tooltip of Fiery Embrace enhances both the melee attack and fire damage, and some Fiery Melee attack does both lethal/smash damage and fire damage. Wouldn't FE add more damage to Fiery Melee than every other primary?
Nope. As mentioned earlier, the tooltip wasn't updated when the power was. It adds fire dmg to all attacks. This includes ranged and aoe attacks from your app/ppp, not just melee powers.
That's quite a damage boost O_O Then I think Dark Melee sounds like a good choice to go with. Does Brute's fury boost the damage granted by Fiery Embrace?
EDIT: Does Fiery Embrace adds damage to Blazing Aura?
Any source of +dmg adds to the dmg granted by FE. This includes fury, rage, soul drain, red inspirations, team buffs, etc.
It adds damage to all your attacks. This includes blazing aura. It also allows you to 'exceed' the dmg cap, as it's bonus fire damage, not a +dmg buff. Teamed with a kin, I recall blazing aura on my scrapper ticking for 100+ pts of dmg with fiery embrace up.
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This isn't actually true -- you can see whether or not a power has a Fiery Embrace component in the power's numbers section. Going by City of Data, none of the PPs/APPs/PPPs do, although all Scrapper Primary powers (that I've checked, but afaik really all) do.
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Originally Posted by EJI
Nope. As mentioned earlier, the tooltip wasn't updated when the power was. It adds fire dmg to all attacks. This includes ranged and aoe attacks from your app/ppp, not just melee powers.
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Fiery Embrace adds Melt Armor from Pyre Mastery becomes dangerous! Is Dark Melee the best aggressive primary for Fiery Aura/Pyre Mastery?
I stand corrected, sorry for the misinformation. FE does, however, boost burn and your dmg aura.
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"Best" is always subjective, But DM definitely SHINES with FA, more so in my opinion then FM, especially for a brute. the extra damage that FM brings doesn't add enough on a brute who can crank out sick damage with FA alone, DM's bag of tricks, mixed with the exotic damage type really turns out phenomenal! two self heals (one of which is a great attack as well), two +end powers, and two damage boosters, one of which does damage to the baddies, the other applies a nice -ToHit. add DM's -ToHit to even out FA's relatively weak res, and it's gotta be one of the BEST synchronized combos in the game. all of this is, of course IMHO, but, many many others feel this way, as i first made one after forum recommendations years ago.
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Originally Posted by Cyberium_neo
Fiery Embrace adds Melt Armor from Pyre Mastery becomes dangerous! Is Dark Melee the best aggressive primary for Fiery Aura/Pyre Mastery?
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Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.
screw your joke, i want "FREEM"
Dark Melee and Fiery Aura seems to sync rather well, with good self-heal and recovery, as well as PBAoE damage. However, the ability Fiery Embrace from FA adds damage to not only melee but all fire damage, which means Fiery Melee gets the most damage buff out of it, yes?
So the question being, DM or FM, with FA?