Riot Control (Natural/Tech Set)

We do not have any natural or tech control powers and I think this could help... This is just a suggestion.

Controller/Dominator - Riot Control (All shot from a Rifle)

1. Bola Grenade – Ranged (Single Target), Foe Immobilize
2. Tear Gas – Ranged (Single Target), Foe Hold
3. Wide Area Web Grenade – Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Immobilize
5. Sleep Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Sleep
4. Smoke Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -Perception, -To-Hit
6. Flash Bang- (PBAoE), Foe Stun
7. Pepper Spray - Ranged (Cone), Choke (Hold)
8. Riot Foam – Ranged (Location AoE), -Fly, -Jump, -SPD
9. Summon Robot – Summon Backup Robot

Dominator - Riot Assault (All shot from a Rifle)

1. Burst - Ranged (Single Target) -Def
2. Pummel - Melee, High DMG (Single Target) Stun
3. Slug - Ranged (Single Target) KD
4. Heavy Burst - Ranged (Cone) -Def
5. Swap Ammo
6. Venom Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AOE) -Res
7. Bayonet - Melee, Superior DMG (Single Target)
8. Sniper Rifle - Sniper, Extreme DMG (Single Target)
9. Hollow Point - Ranged High DMG (Single Target +DOT like blaze for bleed damage) range 50 ft

or

Pistol Assault
1. Pistols - Ranged, Minor DMG(Lethal/Special)
2. Pistol Whip – Melee, Moderate DMG(Smash), Foe Stun (Backhand with gun in hand)
3. Dual Wield - Ranged, Moderate DMG(Lethal/Special), Foe Knockback/Special
4. Empty Clips - Ranged (Cone), Moderate DMG(Lethal/Special), Knockback/Special
5. Swap Ammo - Change Secondary Damage/Effects
6. Foot Sweep - PBAoE, Moderate DMG(Smash), Foe Knockdown (Same animation ad Dragons tail)
7. Double Barrel - Melee High DMG(Smash), Foe -Recharge, -SPD, Knockback (Same animation as Ripper except with guns)
8. Piercing Rounds - Narrow Ranged, High DMG(Lethal/Special), Foes -Res(All)/Special
9. Executioner's Shot - Close, High DMG(Lethal/Special), Foe Knockback/Special

Not a bad set of ideas. Though I wouldn't mind seeing the Glue Mortar the PPD has in the set somewhere, it would make it stand out a little bit more.

Agree completely that we need Control and Assault sets that use guns/launchers of some sort. Many of the sets we have could be easily justified as "tech" if you do them from a "power armor" perspective, but I just want to be able to have some Controllers and Dominators in my "Soldiers With Big Guns" groups.

FWIW, my takle on it was Munitions Control and Assault

MUNITIONS CONTROL
1) Net Grenade (immob)
2) Taser (hold)
3) Wide Area Net Grenade (aoe immob)
4) Smoke Grenade (aoe -to hit, -perception)
5) Caltrops (like normal caltrops, but with a 80' range, deployed by launcher)
6) Sleep Gas Grenade (aoe sleep)
7) Flash Bang (aoe stun, -perception)
8) Choking Gas Grenade (aoe hold, + toxic dot)
9) Gun Drone

MUNITIONS ASSAULT
1) Micromunitions (similar to Burst in performance)
2) Pummel (as arachnos soldier)
3) Rocket (similar to Slug)
4) Bayonet (as arachnos soldier)
5) Targeting Drone (as Blaster Devices)
6) Flechettes (similar to Buckshot, but with a lethal dot and some -def)
7) Frag Grenade (as arachnos soldier)
8) Excessive Force (knockdown, stun, extreme damage over time, and aoe fear) [this is the one power in the list that's not really a ripoff of an existing power, your character knocks down the target and pummels and kicks them mercilessly, like a "when protests go wrong" video. Duration similar to Sands of Mu (except the damage doesn't end long before the animation does). If possible, it should simultaneously spawn an untouchable NPC holding a camera nearby]
9) Guided Missile (extreme damage sniper attack [smashing/lethal, and minor fire dot], with additional minor aoe smashing + knockdown)

any powers that would normally be thrown grenades would instead be launched from the grenade/missile launcher weapon the character gets. Both Munitions and Assault would use the same weapons options (like archery/trick arrow) so if you choose both you don't have redraw from primary to secondary or vice versa. Aside from any new weapon options the devs might want to give us for this, it would include existing grenade and missile launchers used by the 5th Column (and others) some assault rifle options (like the vanguard gun) and the D.U.S.T. cannon, because that thing just looks cool (I'd love to see it shrunk down and given as a pistol option as well, but that's another thread).

Let me stop you all here for a moment: You ARE aware Hold and Immo and other such powers for Controller/Dominators NEED to do damage, right? The Single Targets and the AoE Immo at bare minimum.

This is the only way Controllers deal damage outside of pets. And is their main source of damage until APPs. As much as your thematic Net Grenade/Taser/Bola Grenade/Tear Gas will work?

They need to be powers that would logically do damage. Unless you want a razor net, a deadly taser, a deadly bola, or deadly tear gas.

Or, not deadly, I guess, in terms of 'arresting'.

But do keep in mind: These powers need to deal damage, or they're just garbage.

PS: Also, I'd sooner have Throwing Weapons over Another Gun Set. Seriously, we have five of them now. (AR, BR, DP, Thugs, and SoA).

PSS: SoA and Traps characters already do what these power sets do, really. Sure, they aren't pure 'Control Sets', but you can already make your 'Natural/Tech' control-esque character.

The niche is filled already, is all.

This is a brilliant idea. I honestly never though I would hear a "natural" Dom idea that I would think is cool. But your name/idea sold me. Obviously the set would need some tweaks but thats nothing to hold against you. Not like you design power sets for a living.

Good job.