If I remember, maximum stealth requires:
Stalker Hide
Stealth Power
Stealth IO from Celerity
Super Speed
That should get you the maximum stealth in PvP.
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Originally Posted by Synesence
If I remember, maximum stealth requires:
Stalker Hide Stealth Power Stealth IO from Celerity Super Speed That should get you the maximum stealth in PvP. |
Super Speed doesn't provide stealth in PvP - and the trail actually makes you easier to spot if someone has enough perception to see you - but you're going to want it anyway so you can keep up with everyone else who does have it. To reiterate: it does nothing for your stealth in PvP, only PvE.
The Stalker PvP stealth cap is 1143' at level 50. Max perception for a non-VEAT is 1153', so if you're both at the cap they will still see you within 10'.
Hide (500') + Stealth IO from any of the sets (300') + Stealth (389') will cap your stealth and allow you to attack, albeit while reducing your speed.
Hide + Invisibility (611') won't let you attack, but will cap you for most levels without the stealth IO without a speed reduction - you'll still need the stealth IO to be capped in Grandville, though.
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Its funny reading the numbers posted by Slofir made me think wow cant really get alot of stealth.....but then I remembered from actual game play what stacks and what doesnt.
Maximum stealth is normally done with hide + invibility + celerity + phase shift...phase shift will be the thing that makes you fade from view.
If someone is stacking perception stuff...like accuracy inspirations and the detection temp powers they can get for example.....you can do a few things.
If playing with a team...a team mate can use smoke or other obscuring debuffs on your opponent....or you can stand in a whirlwind which will change their perception range greatly....also grant invisibility can help a tiny bit.
But the best powers are the stalker placates....which give a temporary super stealth effect for a very short time.....the trick is to use that and get away. Yes this includes the area of effect one from Ninjutsu.....Soldiers of Arachnos dont seam to get the same bonus as its not listed in their placate for some reason.
There is no archtype with any amount of percetion buff that can beat the placates combined with stealth effects....but the buff as you can read for yourself only lasts a very short time period....and normally your own supressed stealth wont come back yet in that period....but some things like invisibility and the celerity stealth proc. come back faster...and of course you can if you have it..activate phase shift.
Its funny but before the developers broke it...an actual useful to disapear power was the darkness one you could get from the store or got from going rogue.....though it would turn off if you moved or did anything.....now it simply lasts 5 seconds about the time it takes to activate it.......the developers really broke that power.
But you could stack that too when it worked.
Also you can stack some temp power rewards on too....but those are a tad detrimental and some wont stack.....like the symbiotic stealth suit that does damage to you......which can be silly...because other players may not see you or can even target you, but they can see the damage being done to you...or how about the over loading one that stays on for 60 seconds then takes all your energy and almost all health after that minute period....yah you can brag about not being detected then die right in front of them...>_>;;
Of course my favorite will always be the Freak Show Tank mohawk and back pack.....yah ok doesnt give extra stealth versus players....but does make them pause when they see it on a small catgirl.
Lots of wrong information here...
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Except that's not how it's normally done, and phase shift isn't what makes you fade from view, it's what makes the attacks (unless your opponent also phases) not affect you at all - and note that if you're both phased, attacks will still work as if neither of you were phased. What makes you fade from view is having a PvP stealth higher than their perception at the range you are standing.|
Originally Posted by PsychicKitty
Maximum stealth is normally done with hide + invibility + celerity + phase shift...phase shift will be the thing that makes you fade from view.
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Originally Posted by PsychicKitty
If someone is stacking perception stuff...like accuracy inspirations and the detection temp powers they can get for example.....you can do a few things.
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Originally Posted by PsychicKitty
But the best powers are the stalker placates....which give a temporary super stealth effect for a very short time.....the trick is to use that and get away. Yes this includes the area of effect one from Ninjutsu.....Soldiers of Arachnos dont seam to get the same bonus as its not listed in their placate for some reason.
There is no archtype with any amount of percetion buff that can beat the placates combined with stealth effects....but the buff as you can read for yourself only lasts a very short time period....and normally your own supressed stealth wont come back yet in that period....but some things like invisibility and the celerity stealth proc. come back faster...and of course you can if you have it..activate phase shift. |
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Doing some PVP stuff and had questions as to how the other side "sees" me. I was in a PVP zone and did a successful AS strike, my first kill. I did run into a corrupter who came right up to me while hidden. The corrupter was a few levels below me and had nothing special in the way powers. I'm not expecting 100% stealth 100% of the time but, would like to know what I can do to improve my stealth.
Thanks,