Ok first off why did you have to post it with Halloween colors? second off you r over the rule of 5 with your LoTG recharge. Only 5 of them count. Plus why did u not take Death Shroud? It is one of the things that u can have up to help you to keep aggro on you and it dose some damage to your enemy's. You didnt even take taunt to help you since you didnt take death shroud. Focus Accuracy which is a big end hog. Not to mention maneuvers which is another big end hog. I would of tooken CJ instead of maneuvers which is better on the end wise. DA is one of the few ATs for melee that has no KB protection, and most ppl use 8 to 12 KB protection since lot of the end game content has 8 or more KB, 7 is not helping u much there. It also looks like you r trying to go with positional, and typed def, pick one not both. Also you have hover on which will get u close to SC but I am not sure your going to be in hover mode all the time your fighting. Not to mention you are over slotted for res in dark embrace. Eye of the storm is one of the special attacks that works with staff mastery.
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Sorry about the LotG mis-step, that was an artifact of a previous build. I was looking at Death Shroud but concerned about endurance, also how effective it would be. What would you suggest I drop to add Death Shroud?|
Originally Posted by LSK
Ok first off why did you have to post it with Halloween colors? second off you r over the rule of 5 with your LoTG recharge. Only 5 of them count. Plus why did u not take Death Shroud? It is one of the things that u can have up to help you to keep aggro on you and it dose some damage to your enemy's. You didnt even take taunt to help you since you didnt take death shroud. Focus Accuracy which is a big end hog. Not to mention maneuvers which is another big end hog. I would of tooken CJ instead of maneuvers which is better on the end wise. DA is one of the few ATs for melee that has no KB protection, and most ppl use 8 to 12 KB protection since lot of the end game content has 8 or more KB, 7 is not helping u much there. It also looks like you r trying to go with positional, and typed def, pick one not both. Also you have hover on which will get u close to SC but I am not sure your going to be in hover mode all the time your fighting. Not to mention you are over slotted for res in dark embrace. Eye of the storm is one of the special attacks that works with staff mastery.
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I actually did take CJ, and maneuvers. I shifted for another point of KB in this new build.
FA is just a mule to hold perception and S/L defense while unlocking PP. It should not have been turned on.
For defense I am going for typed, the positional is just an artifact of the other bonuses.
I'm used to fighting in hover, so that shouldn't be a problem.
As for EotS, I chose to focus on only using SS because I liked its effects better, and thought it was better to take one rather than both, especially since I am tight on power slots for this build.
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Styq: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Aegis - Resistance
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Aegis - Resistance
- (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (13) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Aegis - Resistance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (19) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (21) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (25) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (29) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (31) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (33) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (19) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
Level 22: Afterburner
- (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
- (23) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (23) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (37) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
- (31) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Aegis - Resistance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
- (43) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
- (43) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
- (45) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (45) Miracle - Heal
- (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (46) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (A) Empty
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (50) Endurance Modification IO
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 20: Form of the Body
Level 20: Form of the Mind
Level 20: Form of the Soul
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If your concern about end u should of taken conserve power. I switched out both maneuvers and put in hast,, and focus acc and put in conserve power in there, but I didnt put in taunt which i would of done instead of after burn. I moved some slots around, and added in some sets of reactive amour instead of the aigis which will be better for you in the long run. plus got u closer to SC in s/l/en/neg.
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Styq: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(3), GA-3defTpProc(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Mercurial Blow -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Knock%(9)
Level 2: Murky Cloud -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(11), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), S'fstPrt-ResKB(13), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 4: Guarded Spin -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Erad-%Dam(15), Erad-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Erad-%Dam(19), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Theft-+End%(25)
Level 10: Precise Strike -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Knock%(29), Hectmb-Dam%(29), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(33), SW-ResDam/Re TP(33)
Level 16: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 18: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Staff Mastery
Level 22: Afterburner -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(36)
Level 28: Serpent's Reach -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Apoc-Dam%(39)
Level 30: Death Shroud -- SMotTanker-Rchg/Res%(A), SMotTanker-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 35: Innocuous Strikes -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Erad-%Dam(40), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Armgdn-Dam%(42)
Level 38: Sky Splitter -- SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg(42), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SMotTanker-Dmg/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(45), P'Shift-End%(46), P'Shift-EndMod(46)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(48), EndMod-I(50)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 20: Form of the Body
Level 20: Form of the Mind
Level 20: Form of the Soul
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eh, my dark/dark tank only has 4 points of -KNB. You specifically said you're not planning to be a "primary tank" so the knockback protection isn't that big a deal.|
Originally Posted by Beelzy
I actually did take CJ, and maneuvers. I shifted for another point of KB in this new build.
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| FA is just a mule to hold perception and S/L defense while unlocking PP. It should not have been turned on. |
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Death Shroud is Dark Armor's taunt aura. If you do not have it or Taunt, your ability to hold agro is dependent entirely on Gauntlet. I would not want to be a blaster relying on Gauntlet to keep things off me. | I was looking at Death Shroud but concerned about endurance, also how effective it would be. What would you suggest I drop to add Death Shroud? |
With Staff Fighting, endurance should not be a problem at all. Simply live in Form of the Soul until you have your end issues straightened out. And presonally, I'd drop Serpent's Reach. After 40 levels of a DA/Staff Tanker, I found I was never using it, so I dropped it from my build to add Cloak of Fear.
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| As for EotS, I chose to focus on only using SS because I liked its effects better, and thought it was better to take one rather than both, especially since I am tight on power slots for this build. |
My reasoning is that Staff Fighting's single target damage is mediocre, but its AoE is excellent. My build isn't even complete yet and I have a full attack chain of nothing but AoE attacks.
I'm not even sure what Eye of the Storm's effects are in the various forms, because that's not what I use it for. I use it for AoE damage output.
To be perfectly blunt: If you skip Death Shroud AND EotS, your damage output will be pretty pathetic. Staff doesn't have the kind of ST damage output to get away with skipping AoEs.
Here's the build I'm currently working toward:
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Here's something I posted in another thread.
-Soft capped defense versus all positions provided you refresh Defensive Sweep. Cloak of Fear provides a small buffer against -Def with the -ToHit from it
-Decent global recharge
-Very high damage resistance (capped S/L/N/Psi as far as I recall) with no Resistance lower than 60% in combat. The superior tanker ATO will constantly be double stacked in combat so add 6.7% to what Mids' is showing, plus an additional 10% from Sky Splitter if you use Form of the Body
-Endurance should be manageable
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- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
My Katana/Inv Guide
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein
There is a few things i do not like about both builds, some is the same thing but FYI this is from my play style and what I like doing. ! with both taunt having 1 slot, Me i prefer more there to put in either a full set of perfect for extra def, or mocking for both def and recharge, also for when I do HAMI. Claw's build only has 8 KB which I dont like due to how I like to Tank on HAMI. the KB for it is 10. Both have cloak of fear which has been my experience with most fear attacks and other fear component they run away from you. Especially Rom in the ITF. In Dsorrows build he has Kick instead of boxing I prefer Boxing over Kick for I do use boxing in my attack chains and that is why, Kick is a KB attack, some folks take it just to get tuff and weave but why take a power where you can not use it. Also he has a full set of glad armor which can be expensive, and or time consuming.
Now to the OP what I said here is for my personal play style they both have good points in there builds. What I have done in the past is take what works for me on the builds and work it to my personal play style. I am not saying there builds are wrong far from it. What I am saying take what you like form all 3 builds and try to use what you like in your own build for your personal play style. Not to mention there will be times where you will have to be the main tank. where you might get on a team that needs aggro off the others, or you might be in a situation where you are alone while the others go do other stuff in a speed TF, or other stuff like Itrials.
LSK, Your build seems a little weak to fire and ice, and I don't see the need for Rech to be so high.
C&E, I actually added DS into the build on the rebuild(fix), your build seems a little weak to fire and ice. I'll look at switching to an AoE approach.
DSorrow, interesting approach, looking at positional rather than typed defense, but I don't like the dependence on GS, again, I don't see the need for the high recharge.
I appreciate all of your efforts in encouraging and teaching me about tanking, I have never been a tank before, so have only worked on aggro accumulation via the punch-to-the-face method common among scrappers. I tried to incorporate the strengths of your different builds, while working off of my own, and thinking about the attack chain. I am currently looking at MB>GS>IS>EotS with DR thrown in when needed and available. I do have taunt in this build, but remember, this is more for solo than group so I have slotted appropriate to my playstyle. I have moved to sc on S/L/E/N with F/C almost there.
Again, I am new to almost all aspects of this toon, so feedback is appreciated.
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Styq: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Aegis - Resistance
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Aegis - Resistance
- (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (13) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (43) Armageddon - Damage
- (43) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Aegis - Resistance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (19) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (21) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (25) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (33) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
- (27) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
Level 22: Afterburner
- (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
- (27) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (23) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
- (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Eradication - Damage
- (31) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Aegis - Resistance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (A) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (40) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
- (45) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (45) Miracle - Heal
- (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (46) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (A) Empty
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (50) Endurance Modification IO
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 20: Form of the Body
Level 20: Form of the Mind
Level 20: Form of the Soul
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 50: Pyronic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cimeroran Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Incandescence Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
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The reason why me and claw had the Fire and ice def is because you rarely see them in most of the baddies you fight. Most of the attacks you see are either s/l and then en/neg. A few of your res is over slotted for res. not to mention your recharge is going to have it where your attacking slower then others. But if you like waiting a bit on some of your attacks, and on your healing power to come up later then go ahead.
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Originally Posted by Beelzy
LSK, Your build seems a little weak to fire and ice, and I don't see the need for Rech to be so high.
C&E, I actually added DS into the build on the rebuild(fix), your build seems a little weak to fire and ice. I'll look at switching to an AoE approach. DSorrow, interesting approach, looking at positional rather than typed defense, but I don't like the dependence on GS, again, I don't see the need for the high recharge. I appreciate all of your efforts in encouraging and teaching me about tanking, I have never been a tank before, so have only worked on aggro accumulation via the punch-to-the-face method common among scrappers. I tried to incorporate the strengths of your different builds, while working off of my own, and thinking about the attack chain. I am currently looking at MB>GS>IS>EotS with DR thrown in when needed and available. I do have taunt in this build, but remember, this is more for solo than group so I have slotted appropriate to my playstyle. I have moved to sc on S/L/E/N with F/C almost there. |
I was reworking it a tad and now have:
MB>GS>IS>MB>EotS
Without a break.
I am putting together an alternate build with Hasten, but having trouble getting it to softcap with decent slotting.
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Originally Posted by LSK
The reason why me and claw had the Fire and ice def is because you rarely see them in most of the baddies you fight. Most of the attacks you see are either s/l and then en/neg. A few of your res is over slotted for res. not to mention your recharge is going to have it where your attacking slower then others. But if you like waiting a bit on some of your attacks, and on your healing power to come up later then go ahead.
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I didn't worry much about recharge, mostly because if I die because my heal did not come back a few seconds sooner I have bigger problems than my recharge being to low.
I actually consider E/N defense more important than S/L on a Dark Armor. It's the set's lowest resistance by a large margin, so it sucks if you don't have enough defense to it. If you don't understand my point here, go fight some Mu without good energy defense and you soon will.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Point taken, looks like the new omni-damage set from the Summer Blockbuster might help this build out, if I can figure where to place it...
Edit: Rethinking the build overall, working on increasing E/N def while also increasing rech slightly. The irony is that if I can figure out a way to perma hasten, that would be sufficient recharge that I wouldn't need hasten...
I took a different approach, went back to the drawing board, and took some of your ideas, and some of my own, and found places to add the recharge while also staying pretty close to softcap on E/N after I place the new universal damage set in DS.
The double aura plus AOE-centric attack chain GS>IS>SR>EotS (without break) should keep this toon as the center of mob attention, while not leaving me panting... Haven't run all the numbers, but thought I should share the monster y'all have helped create...
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Styq: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Aegis - Resistance
- (31) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (23) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Reactive Armor - Endurance
- (27) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (33) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (9) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (33) Reactive Armor - Endurance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (33) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (37) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (40) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (39) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
- (21) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Empty
- (19) Empty
- (19) Empty
- (43) Empty
- (45) Empty
Level 22: Boxing
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (25) Reactive Armor - Endurance
- (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
- (45) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (46) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (46) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
- (46) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
- (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
- (29) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (29) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (A) Armageddon - Damage
- (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
- (36) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (37) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
- (50) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (42) Miracle - Heal
- (42) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (42) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (27) Endurance Modification IO
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 20: Form of the Body
Level 20: Form of the Mind
Level 20: Form of the Soul
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 50: Pyronic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Robotic Drones Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Incandescence Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
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I am working on a DA/Staff Tanker, and I am new to DA, Staff, and Tanking, so I am unsure whether this build will work the way I want it to.
I have put it together not to be a primary tanker for a group, but to be a resilient assist on damage that grabs enough aggro to support a group while still being able to work as a solo toon. Is there anything that I am missing, or any way to improve this toon in any way?
What strategies would you suggest in soloing or grouping with this toon?
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Styq: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Aegis - Resistance
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
- (13) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
Level 1: Mercurial Blow- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 2: Murky Cloud- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Aegis - Resistance
- (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 4: Guarded Spin- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
Level 6: Obsidian Shield- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Aegis - Resistance
Level 8: Dark Regeneration- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (19) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (21) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (25) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
Level 10: Precise Strike- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (29) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (31) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 14: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (33) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
Level 16: Hover- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Fly- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (19) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
Level 20: Staff MasteryLevel 22: Afterburner
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (23) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (23) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (25) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
Level 24: Kick- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
- (36) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
Level 28: Serpent's Reach- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (37) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 30: Tough- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Aegis - Resistance
Level 32: Soul Transfer- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
- (40) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 35: Innocuous Strikes- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
Level 38: Sky Splitter- (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
- (43) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
Level 41: Focused Accuracy- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
- (45) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
Level 44: Physical Perfection- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (45) Miracle - Heal
- (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod
Level 47: Weave- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 49: Maneuvers- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Brawl- (A) Empty
Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Health- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (46) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (50) Endurance Modification IO
Level 1: Combo Level 1Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 20: Form of the Body
Level 20: Form of the Mind
Level 20: Form of the Soul
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