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So, after realizing that Water Blast doesn't have a snipe, I decided I could go ahead and make a /Devices character in preparation for the upcoming changes. I actually had a Psy/Device already, which I had made a while back and forgot about, but when I went to play that, I noticed that Psy doesn't have Aim, which I considered to be really important since /Dev lacks Build Up. Then I looked at the others, and my next inclinations went as follows:
1. Assault Rifle - again, no Aim.
2. Dual Pistols - No snipe, so pointless for the changes.
3. Sonic - No snipe
4. Dark - What the... What are these weird, utility Dark powers? Is Dark the lowest damaging set of the bunch? At first glance, it looked like it would have to be.
5. Fire - I have a Fire/Mental that I rolled but never played, but I was probably going to go Water/Mental, so maybe he can be forgotten (though he had a great name).

So. Any suggestions? I've played Ice/ (moot, no snipe) and Energy to the death, so I'd prefer to skip those. Elec/Devices really intrigues me, because I've never played Elec/ beyond 17, but I have no interest in being a sapper (I'd probably skip Short Circuit, especially because there isn't great synergy with /Dev), and from what I hear here, Elec/ is suffering well beyond what these changes address.

So... Help!


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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses View Post
So, after realizing that Water Blast doesn't have a snipe, I decided I could go ahead and make a /Devices character in preparation for the upcoming changes. I actually had a Psy/Device already, which I had made a while back and forgot about, but when I went to play that, I noticed that Psy doesn't have Aim, which I considered to be really important since /Dev lacks Build Up. Then I looked at the others, and my next inclinations went as follows:
1. Assault Rifle - again, no Aim.
2. Dual Pistols - No snipe, so pointless for the changes.
3. Sonic - No snipe
4. Dark - What the... What are these weird, utility Dark powers? Is Dark the lowest damaging set of the bunch? At first glance, it looked like it would have to be.
5. Fire - I have a Fire/Mental that I rolled but never played, but I was probably going to go Water/Mental, so maybe he can be forgotten (though he had a great name).

So. Any suggestions? I've played Ice/ (moot, no snipe) and Energy to the death, so I'd prefer to skip those. Elec/Devices really intrigues me, because I've never played Elec/ beyond 17, but I have no interest in being a sapper (I'd probably skip Short Circuit, especially because there isn't great synergy with /Dev), and from what I hear here, Elec/ is suffering well beyond what these changes address.

So... Help!
Arch/Dev would be an excellent choice.


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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses View Post
I actually had a Psy/Device already, which I had made a while back and forgot about, but when I went to play that, I noticed that Psy doesn't have Aim, which I considered to be really important since /Dev lacks Build Up.
Psy has Aim, it is just called Psychic Focus, so take heart and think the mobs dead if you want.


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If you're going for Devices then don't worry about whether the set has aim or the like. Targeting drone + a kismet proc will get you easily over the limit to perma the fast snipe so you don't have to worry about outside to hit boosts. My current elec/devices blaster is sitting on 18 to hit and my targetting drone isn't even fully slotted up yet, so as soon as I drop the kismet in I'll be over the mark.

From what I've been reading the sets best able to leverage the fast snipe would be Assault Rifle and Beam Rifle because both sets snipes are pretty powerful or have a significant effect.

I've got an electric and I can tell you right now, the changes aren't so much going to make electric 'good' as much as it will simply put it closer to average, but mostly paired with Devices. It'd be a good combo simply because your snipe will become your 3rd blast (the set has none, one of its sticking points).

I wouldn't skip short circuit though. Sapping may not be fun and may be weak without Electric Manipulation to boost it, but Short Circuit is -very- good at sapping on its lonesome to begin with and it does okay damage.


 

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Originally Posted by StratoNexus View Post
Psy has Aim, it is just called Psychic Focus, so take heart and think the mobs dead if you want.
Holy crap, really? I should have looked closer. =/

Thanks! Hopefully I'll like it!

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Originally Posted by Agent White View Post
If you're going for Devices then don't worry about whether the set has aim or the like. Targeting drone + a kismet proc will get you easily over the limit to perma the fast snipe so you don't have to worry about outside to hit boosts. My current elec/devices blaster is sitting on 18 to hit and my targetting drone isn't even fully slotted up yet, so as soon as I drop the kismet in I'll be over the mark.

From what I've been reading the sets best able to leverage the fast snipe would be Assault Rifle and Beam Rifle because both sets snipes are pretty powerful or have a significant effect.

I've got an electric and I can tell you right now, the changes aren't so much going to make electric 'good' as much as it will simply put it closer to average, but mostly paired with Devices. It'd be a good combo simply because your snipe will become your 3rd blast (the set has none, one of its sticking points).

I wouldn't skip short circuit though. Sapping may not be fun and may be weak without Electric Manipulation to boost it, but Short Circuit is -very- good at sapping on its lonesome to begin with and it does okay damage.
I was more concerned about missing that extra damage boost.


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From what I've been reading the sets best able to leverage the fast snipe would be Assault Rifle and Beam Rifle because both sets snipes are pretty powerful or have a significant effect.
AR has the fastest "insta" snipe at 0.67s. Psychic Blast has the second fastest at 1.0s. Beam Rifle has "normal" timing (its cast time is slightly slower at 1.4s instead of 1.33 seconds, but arcanatime rooting is identical for those two times) but the aoe disintegrate effect.

Fire Blast has the hardest hitting snipe, but its also tied for the slowest insta-snipe, which makes its DPA almost identical to standard snipes (1.78 vs 1.74).

The lowest DPA insta-snipe is Archery at 1.49 DS/sec. That's still higher than almost all blaster single target ranged attacks (other than insta-snipes) and Archery does have the best tier 9 nuke, so I don't think people will be abandoning the set just because of the snipe change.


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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
AR has the fastest "insta" snipe at 0.67s. Psychic Blast has the second fastest at 1.0s. Beam Rifle has "normal" timing (its cast time is slightly slower at 1.4s instead of 1.33 seconds, but arcanatime rooting is identical for those two times) but the aoe disintegrate effect.
It should be noted that Hawk has said that both Rifle sets may end up with longer animations because those times are too fast for the animation to look good (and I can definitely believe that for Assault).


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Originally Posted by StratoNexus View Post
It should be noted that Hawk has hinted that both Rifle sets may end up with longer animations because those times are too fast for the animation to look good (and I can definitely believe that for Assault).
That's true: I know that from a purely numerical perspective he was ok with the cosmically stratospheric DPA from Sniper Rifle, but things like "does it look bizarre with weapon draw" are exactly the sorts of things the powers designers have to factor in when Q&A gets their hands on it.

BaB did not think it was a good idea to have powers with only 0.67 of animation time for various animation reasons: the current animation team may have similar thoughts as well.

If it gets knocked to 0.83, that would mean 1.056 arcanatime and 2.61 DS/sec DPA, down from 2.99 DS/sec. Not bad. But as that cast time gets higher, AR's lack of Aim becomes increasingly noteworthy.


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So, after realizing that Water Blast doesn't have a snipe
::cries::

This is what I was afraid of.


 

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I decided I could go ahead and make a /Devices character in preparation for the upcoming changes.
Maybe a set with both a 40 foot tier 3 attack, and a snipe. That way you can truly test out all of the new blaster benefits. That would be Fire, Rad, or Energy, I believe.


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